[arch-general] login fails after update

Tom Gundersen teg at jklm.no
Mon Jul 16 07:18:16 EDT 2012

On Jul 16, 2012 1:02 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" <fons at linuxaudio.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 2012 12:17 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" <fons at linuxaudio.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > The most likely reason for /bin/login being missing is that the
> > > > was forced.
> > >
> > > No, it was not. As already said I followed the instructions
> > > which clearly stated not to use --force.
> >
> > I have no idea how this happened, but reinstalling util-linux should
fix it.
> I completely new netinstall fixed it :-).
> Maybe the system was just too old, it was the only one not kept
> up to date.
> Since the latest core install image (about 11 months ago), there
> have been several changes that required a manual intervention
> during a routine update, the /lib thing is just the latest one.
> Each of them was clearly announced and documented, and usually
> involved upgrading some packages separately either before the
> rest, or after it using --ignore first, and at least in one
> case using --force was the recommended way to go. Each of these
> upgrades worked well separately and were no big deal for anyone
> using Arch for some time.
> But imagine the situation of a new user who has just done a core
> install, and is told to do -Syu after the first reboot, facing
> all these manual steps together. I don't think you can expect
> such a new user to do the right thing, if it is possible at all.
> Which is not a good thing for Archlinux' name and fame. I suspect
> we need new install images ASAP.

I agree. We are currently in the final stages of testing a new iso. I'm
also advocating we drop the core instal as it is causing too many problems
in case it is outdated.

> Ciao,
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> FA
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