[arch-general] incorrect sort order in thunar

[Alex Belanger]

@Ray, he said it used to work before upgrading thunar, so I suspect it's not a problem with his locale config.



On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Ray Kohler <ataraxia937 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM,  <brainworker at lavabit.com> wrote:
>> Hello, folks, once again.
>> 
>> Maybe somebody of you encountered with that problem in thunar.
>> ...especially if you use cyrillic letters in file and directory names.
>> 
>> So, I have installed the latest version of thunar (1.4.0), and it
>> incorrectly sorts contents of my folders. I can not even understand the
>> way thunar sorts content of any folder.
>> 
>> The "sort order" by name in one directory is following (ascending) (from
>> top to bottom):
>> 
>> * cyrillic upper letters,
>> * hidden (dot) files,
>> * digits,
>> * lower cyrillic letters,
>> * english lower letters,
>> * again cyrillic lower letters,
>> * english lower and upper letters (together) insensetive to case.
>> 
>> The "sort order" by name in another directory is following (ascending)
>> (from top to bottom):
>> 
>> * cyrillic upper letters,
>> * digits,
>> * cyrillic lower letters,
>> * again digits,
>> * again cyrillic lower letters,
>> * english lower letters,
>> * and again cyrillic lower letters.
>> 
>> Before version 1.4.0, everything was OK.
>> So what happened to thunar? Why such an "improvement"?
> 
> You might check if "ls" sorts in this same odd fashion. It might be a
> locale setting - if LC_COLLATE is set to your actual locale, it text
> will be sorted as if were natural language (i.e., prose), rather than
> sorting in the usual "technical" manner. This means that some kinds of
> characters (number, punctuation, maybe other things?) will just be
> ignored when sorting, which makes the order look like nonsense.
> 
> The usual means to handle this is to set LC_COLLATE=C in
> /etc/locale.conf and make sure nothing in your environment (.bashrc,
> Thunar config) overrides it. Check your environment variables (in a
> terminal) and look at the output of "locale".