[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] systemd 216 coming soon to testing

[Leonid Isaev]

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:56:06AM -0500, Bigby James wrote:
> > > It seems this is just a change in the default settings, nothing more.
> > 
> > I know, but not everyone follows systemd-devel. So, just updating systemd would
> > lead to syslog "mysteriously" not logging anything...
> 
> Sure, *if* you didn't already explicity set journald to use an external logging
> daemon. If you did, then the update is just going to create a *.pacnew file that
> can be deleted. In other words, the problem is improper configuration on the
> part of the user, not impropriety on the part of upstream.
> 
> I use syslog-ng myself, and it seems to me that if I'm going to be deviating
> from the defaults set by upstream and the Arch devs then it falls to me to pay

Using syslog-ng is not "deviating from the defaults". So far the default was to
send things to _a_ syslog -- no modification of journald.conf was required
(check the old manpages).

Therefore, you won't get a pacnew file, and the new config will be quietly put
in place, breaking existing installations for no valid technical reason.

Anyway, let's not argue about the semantics, it's not a big deal of course.
Hopefully, this thread saves someone a bit of hairpulling :)

Cheers,
-- 
Leonid Isaev
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