[arch-general] netctl provides wifi-menu which is unusable

Simon Thelen archmailing5 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 27 09:24:38 EST 2014

On 27/02/14 at 13:22, Nowaker wrote:
> Optdepends are used for software like lighttpd or apache where some optional
> modules may need these optdepends. /usr/bin/wifi-menu is a first class
> citizen of this package, not just some optional module.
wifi-menu isn't so much a "first-class-citizen" as it is a graphical interface to the
netctl backend.
> I don't know of any other package that would do the same.
I know of several packages that optionally depend on graphical
interfaces to provide a graphical interface to the program.
Of the top of my head I can think of nmap which optdepends on pygtk for
the zenmap binary. There are more, and I think that is a perfectly valid
use case.
> I do pay attention to the output, but current state of wifi-menu in netctl
> is a nonsense. And what is a nonsense needs to be fixed, right? Three other
> people already agree with me.
I don't consider this nonsense, wifi-menu is not an essential part of
netctl so dialog shouldn't be in the depends. wifi-menu also isn't
important enough to receive its own package. I see zero problem with
wifi-menu remaining a binary in netctl that requires an optdepend in
order to function because wifi-menu does nothing extraordinary but
provide a simple user interface to netctl.

To sum it up: the status-quo is fine as it is. There is no point in
changing something that not only works but also makes perfect sense.

Simon Thelen

Yes, I've now got this nice little apartment in New York, one of those
L-shaped ones.  Unfortunately, it's a lower case l.
		-- Rita Rudner
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