[arch-general] makepkg as root

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com
Sun Jan 4 00:52:21 UTC 2015

On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:57:11 -0500, Jeremy Audet wrote:
> > However, I like that Linus Torvalds made some clear statements to
> > the careless, ignorant systemd and dbus crowed, while he's not
> > against systemd and dbus, just against the new attitudes.
> Writing good software is hard. Providing the developers of that
> software with concrete examples of use cases that `--asroot` provided
> may be useful to them. Providing patches may be useful. Asking for
> semantic versioning to be more strictly followed may be useful.
> Pointing out the value of backward compatibility (and then
> acknowledging that maintaining backward compatibility has a cost) may
> be useful. It is _not_ useful to then drag in systemd, dbus, Linus
> Torvalds, Red Hat, Johannes Löthberg, FLOSS philosophy and more. I'll
> re-read my copy of Hackers if I want to reminisce about the good old
> days of software development as it was in 1977 and enjoy a few good Ad
> Hominems.
> Please, let's aim for a constructive conversation. That's why I
> subscribe to this mailing list.

The same for me. Once community was about computer people how did real
life discussions and decisions. We tweaked hardware and software. The
picture shows my Atari ST, modified for parallel usage of the build in
68000 + an additional 80286, the 512 KiB RAM are replaced by oldish 4
MiB PC RAM and you are free to chose between 2 MIDI in sockets [1]. I
also could post pictures of at least one much older computer + hardware
hacks and I might own or not own a lot of cracked software. JFTR the
picture does show an original Steinberg dongle. We didn't crack the
software to steal something! We pay for the software and then we needed
to crack it, to fix issues, such as broken backwards compatibility ...
to be fair Steinberg didn't suffer from this disease at this time. For
me there was a good reason to switch to Linux and there also is a very
good reason to communicate my opinion nowadays. I suspect computer
nerd communities lost a lot when we got the Internet and dropped our
soldering stations.

All the QL, C64, Atari, Falcon etc. pp. nerds are still alive and much
often decided to use Linux nowadays. Why should we agree with a policy
of youngsters who don't care about compatibility and work-flows?

[1] http://picpaste.de/pics/atari_st.1420331275.jpg


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