[arch-general] makepkg as root

[Mark Lee]

On 01/04/15 00:09, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Mark Lee <mark at markelee.com> wrote:
>
>> An AUR (unofficial package) shouldn't be restricting the development of an
>> official package. But, a dialogue regarding any differences surely can take
>> place.
>>
> No dialog is necessary, it was a straightforward change with absolutely no
> impact beyond the impact of running makepkg --asroot by hand instead of by
> proxy.
>
> In fact, the only change to yaourt is making yaourt exit when run as root
> instead of warning you it's dangerous.
>
> If you think it's solely about building from a root shell; you should
>> re-read the thread. It surely has progressed past that dialogue.
>
> Please elaborate about these additional concerns. I see no additional
> concerns, it is all about people who would like to build from a root shell.
> Whether they should or shouldn't, I don't concern myself, but that is the
> issue at hand.
> Considering that the actual discussion is about makepkg no longer allowing
> you to run from a root shell, that is kind of natural.
>
> (I do not count offtopic discussion as being a concern about this change.)
>
> And as I said in the first place, you are factually incorrect in stating
> that the concern is with aur packages. That is FUD originally posted in the
> comments on Allan McRae's blog[1] about which the only mention here was
> that it too is factually incorrect.
> And even if aur packages were broken (it seems there are indeed aur helpers
> that run as root) that is still not pacman's fault in this particular case,
> that is a bug that bust be fixed regardless in said aur helper.
>
> [1] http://allanmcrae.com/2014/12/pacman-4-2-released/#comment-1250
>
>
>> Calm down for a bit and don't miss the forrest for the trees.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark
>>
> I see no forest, merely a lonesome tree on a deserted plain.
>
> -- Eli Schwartz
DId you read any of Ralf's messages? He prefaces by commenting about 
backwards compatibility and Torvalds' comments.

This isn't just about makepkg; this is about backwards compatibility as 
well. Just because yaourt changed it's process to match upstream doesn't 
change any of the previous concerns about backwards compatibility and 
dialogue regarding changes.

Regards,
Mark