[arch-general] makepkg as root

Mark Lee mark at markelee.com
Sun Jan 4 05:18:25 UTC 2015

On 01/04/15 00:09, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Mark Lee <mark at markelee.com> wrote:
>> An AUR (unofficial package) shouldn't be restricting the development of an
>> official package. But, a dialogue regarding any differences surely can take
>> place.
> No dialog is necessary, it was a straightforward change with absolutely no
> impact beyond the impact of running makepkg --asroot by hand instead of by
> proxy.
> In fact, the only change to yaourt is making yaourt exit when run as root
> instead of warning you it's dangerous.
> If you think it's solely about building from a root shell; you should
>> re-read the thread. It surely has progressed past that dialogue.
> Please elaborate about these additional concerns. I see no additional
> concerns, it is all about people who would like to build from a root shell.
> Whether they should or shouldn't, I don't concern myself, but that is the
> issue at hand.
> Considering that the actual discussion is about makepkg no longer allowing
> you to run from a root shell, that is kind of natural.
> (I do not count offtopic discussion as being a concern about this change.)
> And as I said in the first place, you are factually incorrect in stating
> that the concern is with aur packages. That is FUD originally posted in the
> comments on Allan McRae's blog[1] about which the only mention here was
> that it too is factually incorrect.
> And even if aur packages were broken (it seems there are indeed aur helpers
> that run as root) that is still not pacman's fault in this particular case,
> that is a bug that bust be fixed regardless in said aur helper.
> [1] http://allanmcrae.com/2014/12/pacman-4-2-released/#comment-1250
>> Calm down for a bit and don't miss the forrest for the trees.
>> Regards,
>> Mark
> I see no forest, merely a lonesome tree on a deserted plain.
> -- Eli Schwartz
DId you read any of Ralf's messages? He prefaces by commenting about 
backwards compatibility and Torvalds' comments.

This isn't just about makepkg; this is about backwards compatibility as 
well. Just because yaourt changed it's process to match upstream doesn't 
change any of the previous concerns about backwards compatibility and 
dialogue regarding changes.


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