[arch-general] systemd new dependencies impede using OpenRC

[Yaro Kasear]

I personally prefer systemd over the alternatives. I grant there's
considerable feature creep, but the people who complain a lot either don't
offer an alternative, or the one alternative they offer is the frankly
broken system Linux had been using since the dawn of time.

I wouldn't mind some spiritual successor to systemd where its entire
purpose is to be init, without sacrificing some of the more useful/powerful
features like cgroups, concurrency, and the like. Systemd went wrong when
it started going into stuff that init itself really doesn't need to manage
on its own.

SysV Init needs to die, let's move on. OpenRC is not enough to save it.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bardur Arantsson <spam at scientician.net>
wrote:

> On 07/03/2015 12:19 AM, Daniel Micay wrote:
> >> WHAT? The opinion of users has no weight here ?!?!?!
> >
> [--snip--]
>
> Just to add a little bit to what Daniel said: Can we please calm down a
> bit here?
>
> It's not like there's no overlap between what developers want and what
> ordinary users want -- in fact there seems to be rather a lot of overlap
> given the number of users Arch has. Remember that developers are users too!
>
> (P.S. I'm not a developer/packager just an ordinary user.)
>