[arch-general] GTK2 GUIs became a PITA after upgrade

Richard Ullger rullger at gmail.com
Wed Apr 13 18:55:02 UTC 2016

On 13/04/16 15:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> After installing fontconfig I didn't notice an issue for Claws,
> Roxterm, SpaceFM and a few other apps. It was the other way around. For
> testing purpose I reinstalled the new Adwaita again and the fonts for my
> GTK2 apps didn't become that disgusting again, as the fonts for GTK3
> apps are. However, the new Adwaita is totally broken for GTK2 apps.
> This can be noticed by users who have a lot of GTK2 apps installed, e.g.
> spacefm-gtk2, instead of spacefm. For this very reason I stay with the
> outdated theme. Using the outdated theme seems to have no side effects
> for GTK3 apps yet.
> I don't know if it's related to the GTK things that were upgraded or to
> fontconfig or to what ever else. Sometimes, but not too seldom I run
> xfw and very seldom I run xfe. Both don't use the fonts anymore I
> once upon a time chose. Instead of IIRC monospace, they use exotic
> fonts nobody ever would chose for this kinds of apps. IOW it's not that
> monospace was replaced by another kind of monospace, it was replaced by
> really, really exotic fonts.
> It's a PITA that even users who don't use GNOME, KDE or similar crap
> nowadays get broken environments, because even apps that are not from a
> bloatware DE break.
> Reminds me of Bill Hick talking to people who are in advertising or
> marketing. "No really, there's no rationalization for what you do, and
> you are Satan's little helpers, OK?" This seems to fit good to some
> upstream developers too.
> Maybe this is asking for DDoS attacks against GNOME :D.

Hi Ralf,

What packages have you downgraded to get back to the previous version of


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