[arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

Henrik Danielsson h.danielsson at gmail.com
Mon Jul 24 07:49:43 UTC 2017

2017-07-24 9:36 GMT+02:00 Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
<arch-general at archlinux.org>:
> All fine and good but I don't see arch being installed on something
> other than desktop/laptop. Of course there are niche cases as arch
> server I do not doubt but how much of arch install base is traditional
> desktop? I think it's rather high.
I currently have 8 Arch machines, 5 of which are pure servers and 2
are server/desktop hybrids, one is an aging laptop which barely runs
anything with a GUI.
None have NM installed, most use Connman , the others 'just work' and
need nothing more than the basics already there.
I'm obviously not alone in finding Arch suitable for many purposes
other than a desktop machine, as indicated by other replies.
> On 07/24/2017 01:30 PM, ITwrx.org wrote:
>> On 07/24/2017 12:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote:
>>> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO?
>> Arch Linux is not like desktop focused distributions. Therefore, it's
>> ISO does not come with "everything but the kitchen sink" where you have
>> a turn-key desktop after running a GUI installer or install script. It
>> has the base set of software you need to assemble what you need for your
>> given install target.
>>> Isn't it widely accepted as
>>> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux?
>> No, not in general like that. Network manager is primarily used for
>> network management with desktop environments, most commonly Gnome, as
>> the other respondent noted. Arch Linux is used in many different ways,
>> not only for the desktop.
>>> Is there any reason
>>> for it not to be default?
>> The defaults for the ISO would generally be the simpler options, and
>> less likely to be something large with a lot of dependencies.  Also,
>> minimalist ISOs were the norm rather than the exception in years past
>> and for Reasons. They still are in some cases or with some distros.
>> Also, there are not always application defaults with Arch Linux like you
>> might have with a desktop distro. Arch is "DIY/build your own and choose
>> your own defaults (for the most part)" type of distro.

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