[arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

[Junayeed Ahnaf]

No more issue rn, I installed with wifi-connect . The problem I was 
having is, even after I inputted the SSID and password in the file, the 
command to connect were not working. I don't have the log right now 
(since I installed), so I can't tell further.

On 07/25/2017 06:48 AM, Michael Singh via arch-general wrote:
> Hi what issues are you having with wpa_supplicant?
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
> M: + 1 914 266 0601
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 05:42, Robert Wong via arch-general <arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> Emm... And I'd say I'm sorry for what I've said today...
>>
>>
>> RW
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
>> From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
>> To: arch-general at archlinux.org
>> CC: Junayeed Ahnaf
>>
>> I've installed ArchLinux on 3 desktops so far, and I've done them
>> successfully, so I must have *RTFM* , I was just wondering why is it
>> hard to configure wifi. Since I failed to configure wifi with
>> wpa_supplicant. I'll try with wifi-menu today, and report progress.
>>
>>
>> No need to be so aggressive man.
>>
>>
>>> On 07/24/2017 01:48 PM, Robert Wong via arch-general wrote:
>>> A general Arch installation is nothing but a minimal set
>>> of GNU/Linux system with a package manager, which
>>> can be configured into anything. I'm not going any
>>> further for you have made yourself clear that you
>>> haven't done your research. Offensive as it can be, I'd
>>> say *RTFM*.
>>>
>>> PS: It's apparently navie to say sth like Arch is nothing
>>> but a desktop for archlinux.org itself runs on Arch Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> RW
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
>>> From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
>>> To: arch-general at archlinux.org
>>> CC: Junayeed Ahnaf
>>>
>>> All fine and good but I don't see arch being installed on something
>>> other than desktop/laptop. Of course there are niche cases as arch
>>> server I do not doubt but how much of arch install base is traditional
>>> desktop? I think it's rather high.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 07/24/2017 01:30 PM, ITwrx.org wrote:
>>>>> On 07/24/2017 12:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote:
>>>>> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO?
>>>> Arch Linux is not like desktop focused distributions. Therefore, it's
>>>> ISO does not come with "everything but the kitchen sink" where you have
>>>> a turn-key desktop after running a GUI installer or install script. It
>>>> has the base set of software you need to assemble what you need for your
>>>> given install target.
>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it widely accepted as
>>>>> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux?
>>>> No, not in general like that. Network manager is primarily used for
>>>> network management with desktop environments, most commonly Gnome, as
>>>> the other respondent noted. Arch Linux is used in many different ways,
>>>> not only for the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any reason
>>>>> for it not to be default?
>>>> The defaults for the ISO would generally be the simpler options, and
>>>> less likely to be something large with a lot of dependencies.  Also,
>>>> minimalist ISOs were the norm rather than the exception in years past
>>>> and for Reasons. They still are in some cases or with some distros.
>>>> Also, there are not always application defaults with Arch Linux like you
>>>> might have with a desktop distro. Arch is "DIY/build your own and choose
>>>> your own defaults (for the most part)" type of distro.