[arch-general] godep has been deprecated in favor of dep

[Jordan Glover]

On February 25, 2018 2:51 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general <arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote:

> On 02/24/2018 09:18 PM, Adam Levy via arch-general wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> > 
> > Today I noticed that as of about 30ish days ago godep (
> > 
> > github.com/tools/godep) has been archived and is no longer supported. The
> > 
> > go dev team recommends using dep (github.com/golang/dep) instead.
> > 
> > As Arch strives to be as up to date as possible I suggest removing godep
> > 
> > from the official repos and potentially moving dep into the official repos
> > 
> > from the AUR. The AUR dep package appears to be well maintained.
> > 
> > Relevant links:
> > 
> > https://github.com/tools/godep
> > 
> > https://github.com/golang/dep
> > 
> > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dep/
> 
> So because it has been dropped 30 days ago, we should delete it from our
> 
> repos without first checking to see, I dunno, whether any other packages
> 
> in the repos depend on it? No thanks.
> 
> Nothing is stopping us from shipping both packages. For that matter,
> 
> nothing is stopping us from shipping neither...
> 
> Arch does not ship golang ecosystem tools because we have some sort of
> 
> fundamental goal to ship golang. We don't ship golang itself because
> 
> we have some fundamental goal to ship golang.
> 
> We ship it because Arch developers either use/want it, or use/want
> 
> software that depends on it. Happily, that goal coincides with the
> 
> ability to support popular programming languages... but do you think we
> 
> would force someone who doesn't like golang, to maintain the thing just
> 
> so we can have it in the repos? No, at best we would (try to) look to
> 
> sponsor a TU who cares.
> 
> By the same extension we won't blacklist software that is currently
> 
> maintained by a TU, that people use, that at least one package in the
> 
> repos has a makedepends on, just because the upstream developers have
> 
> decided that the software can and should be replaced by a newer, better
> 
> tool. Currently it is a violation of the Arch packaging rules to delete
> 
> godep even if we want to...
> 
> (That being said, terraform probably shouldn't makedepend on it, and
> 
> I've pointed that out to the maintainer.)
> 
> > As Arch strives to be as up to date as possible
> 
> We achieve that goal by providing the latest version of godep, thereby
> 
> ensuring that godep is up to date.
> 
> Determining which is the best tool to use is a choice for upstream projects.
> 
> Quite frankly we have more than enough ancient software that is
> 
> legitimately at the latest version a dead upstream provides, to rebut
> 
> your argument. Just because software is old, or not recommended by its
> 
> own devs, does not mean it isn't useful.
> 
> 
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> 
> Eli Schwartz
> 
> Bug Wrangler and Trusted User

I guess Adam request should be sent to package mantainer instead of public
list but other than that it's legit and I don't see the point of public rant about
it. It doesn't help anyone.

​Jordan