[arch-general] `base` group replaced by mandatory `base` package - manual intervention required

Nero Claudius Drusus germanicus1982 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 11 01:00:26 UTC 2019

I've been following this discussion and can't see what the actual problem
is. I've installed a new system since the change and the installation doc's
have been updated appropriately. It still works. If you want extra packages
then add them, this, in my opinion, is what Arch is designed to do. I'm not
seeing why extra packages need to be installed based upon personal

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 6:48 PM Eli Schwartz via arch-general <
arch-general at archlinux.org> wrote:

> On 10/10/19 7:01 AM, pete via arch-general wrote:
> > Never mind Ed Vi Assemblers yes all very fancyfull
> > hows about you just include  joe  far easier  wordstar commands no mess
> just
> > works    the very first thing i ever do install joe  best editor of the
> lot  .
> I have never heard of "joe". I have heard of many other text editors
> though. Off the top of my head:
> vi
> vim
> neovim
> vis
> ed
> emacs
> acme
> gedit
> pluma
> xed
> geany
> leafpad
> kate
> nano (gross)
> vscode
> atom
> sublime text
> notepad++
> Windows Notepad
> Maybe if I even know Windows and macOS and *plan9* text editors before I
> know of this "joe", it needs to do better advertising. What are its
> features? Why would I want to use it? What merit does it have that we
> should recommend people use it?
> I have run pacman -Si joe, and it seems to be an editor. It's
> self-described as "Joe's own editor". So let me revise my question: who
> is joe, why do I care who he is, and what does his personal editor do
> for me? For that matter, if it carefully described as his own editor, am
> I allowed to use it? Alternatively, is it designed to be used by other
> people than its original intendee?
> --
> Eli Schwartz
> Bug Wrangler and Trusted User

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