[arch-general] Fwd: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers

[Vasi Vilvoiu]

While I don't think the problem is _as_ dramatic as you're making it to 
be, there is definitely a reduction in activity for a time now. Even if 
you compare the archives of arch-general this year vs 2019 you can see 
an importand drop in the number of messages. Why this happened I don't 
know and I'd rather not make any assumptions, but I'd hate to see Arch 
lose momentum. I'm personally already looking for sponsors for my TU 
application.

The GCC issue has been raised a few times, on the BBS and here, once by 
myself a few days ago. However keep in mind that gcc is in core so you 
could have all the TUs in the world, they wouldn't be able to do 
anything. But yes, it would be nice to know what kind of difficulties 
the devs are facing, technical or otherwise, and see if we can pitch in.

Best regards,
Vasi Vilvoiu

On 11/2/21 01:39, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote:
> Here are the Arch site package links without the 4chan referer, my b. I
> also want to mention I'm not trying to single out and particular
> maintainer/Trusted user. This seems to be a wide ranging problem. Let me
> reiterate, we the community WANT TO HELP. If it's money, make a fundraiser
> and we will donate. If it's hands/eyes that's out of our hands unless you
> offload some of these packages to the AUR. We love Arch and want to see it
> be the best it can be.
> 
> Have a good night everyone. I hope tomorrow leads to a better path in the
> way of Arch.
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc%2F>
> 
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-libs/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-libs%2F>
> 
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-go/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-go%2F>
> 
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/glibc/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fglibc%2F>
> 
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dhcpcd
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fdhcpcd%2F>
> /
> 
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/binutils/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fbinutils%2F>
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
> Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
> To: arch-general at lists.archlinux.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
> Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
> To: arch-security at lists.archlinux.org
> 
> 
> Having far outdated packages is a security issue so I will include security
> as well.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
> Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
> To: anthraxx at archlinux.org, aaron at archlinux.org, jvinet at zeroflux.org
> 
> 
> Today a post was made on the subreddit about a massive amount of packages
> being flagged outdated a very long time ago. It was nuked almost
> immediately and linked to an older thread with a non-answer. This cannot be
> brushed under the rug. It is not just random packages that are far out of
> date but even core ones.
> 
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc%2F>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-libs/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-libs%2F>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-go/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-go%2F>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/glibc/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fglibc%2F>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dhcpcd/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fdhcpcd%2F>
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/binutils/
> <https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fbinutils%2F>
> 
> Even gnome-shell and others are far out of date.
> 
> Why are there still maintainers/Trusted Users that haven't been signed in
> for 5 months holding packages hostage?
> 
> Please communicate with your userbase. We care and want to help.
> 
> See this thread. I was forced to move that persons post to 4chan because it
> got nuked on the subreddit.
> 
> https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/84101500
> 
> Thank you
>