[arch-general] "Arch Linux GUI" legit project?

[Vasi Vilvoiu]

Still, that is very much subjective. Their first statement is "Welcome 
to Arch Linux GUI. A fast, offline & graphical installer for Vanilla 
Arch Linux!".

For someone who's reasonably familiar with the distribution this makes 
it quite obvious that the project is not approved, endorsed or 
distributed by ArchLinux. To the best of my knowledge, while there have 
been a number of 3rd party installers, there has never been an official one.

I will, however, agree that for someone new to the the distribution this 
may not be 100% clear, and it would be nice for the project maintainers 
to be more verbose in this respect. But then again, the demographic that 
wants to run Arch but lacks the know-how to follow the installation 
guide, yet somehow chooses to avoid Manjaro for some reason, should be 
quite small.

However, seeing how you're on the security team, I can understand why 
distributing an ISO makes you uneasy :). I would personally not touch it 
with a 100 foot pole either.

Best regards,
Vasi Vilvoiu

On 11/2/21 13:36, Morten Linderud via arch-general wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 01:31:20PM +0200, Vasi Vilvoiu via arch-general wrote:
>> "We recognise and encourage the concept of a "remix." Remixes are derived
>> versions of Arch Linux, and it is intended that any software and hardware
>> certifications will apply to a Remix. Therefore the changes from official
>> Arch Linux products must be minimal to be permitted to use the Trademarks.
>> These changes can include configuration changes through the existing Arch
>> Linux configuration management tools, changes to artwork and graphical
>> themes and some variance in package selection."
>>
>> They don't seem to be providing alternate repositories, just an installer.
> 
> You are ignoring the following two points:
> 
> "The Trademark is used in a way that makes it clear that your project is a
> development effort related to the Arch Linux source, but that the software you
> are working upon is not in fact Arch Linux as distributed by the Arch Linux
> project"
> 
> "There is no suggestion (through words or appearance) that your project is
> approved, sponsored, or affiliated with Arch Linux or its related projects
> unless it has been approved by and is governed by the Arch Linux Project Lead."
> 
> Where they fail at both accounts regardless if you want to argue about the
> semantics of what is and isn't a "substantial change".
>