[arch-releng] ISO branding (WAS: Things beyond 2009.01/02)

Leandro Inacio carvalho.inacio at gmail.com
Mon Feb 2 08:34:31 EST 2009

Hi, folks!

why don't we put "Arch Linux 2009.01" on /etc/arch-release and /etc/issue,
and update it only when the filesystem is updated or when a new ISO is

Leandro "skate_forever" Inácio

Arch Linux User
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2009/2/2 Dieter Plaetinck <dieter at plaetinck.be>

> Gerhard Brauer wrote:
>> Am Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:42:02 +0100
>> schrieb Dieter Plaetinck <dieter at plaetinck.be>:
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:43:55 -0800
>>> Thayer Williams <thayerw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Gerhard Brauer <gerbra at archlinux.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> b) Release "branding"
>>>>> Should we have release names? Should we have the release versions
>>>>> (ex. 2009.02) in the splash screens (grub, isolinux) and maybe
>>>>> in /etc/issue? Background is: User should be able to identify
>>>>> which ISO release he currently uses. Having the release version
>>>>> only on ISO/Img-File is sometimes not enough.
>>>> I'm not crazy about branding the releases, particularly with
>>>> codenames and especially in multiple places.  If we brand at all
>>>> then I think a single instance of a datestamp, preferably near the
>>>> initial setup, would be appropriate.
>>> It's cool to have the release name show up at some places of the *iso*
>>> (/etc/issue, /etc/rc.sysinit and in the installation program itself
>>> for example)
>>> I don't think it should show up at all in the installed system.  I
>>> don't see the use:  rolling releases, keeping things simple et al.
>> You're right, i don't mean to get these release numbers/names into the
>> installed system - only a way to identify the ISO what the user
>> currently is using.
>> So Thayer's idea having the current iso version/name as a text file is
>> good IMHO. Placing it in the iso9660 structure (where the sqfs files
>> live) and in the booted LiveCD /setup directory is IMHO enough to
>> identify the ISO release - either if the medium is only mounted or
>> booted.
> Some random thoughts:
> if you do `uname -r` you know the kernel release. eg 2.6.28-ARCH: not the
> arch release version/name, but close.
> Maybe we could version our releases like the kernel. eg 2.6.28 instead of
> 2009.01
> that what we can show the "release version" at many places (inside
> installer, in /etc/rc.sysinit etc) in a bit easier way.
> also, it wouldn't cause so much stress when we change months, eg no stress
> about us being late, the need to change version numbers etc (eg right now we
> have 2009.01-beta and alpha, but the release is 2009.02, we need to update
> all references such as versions in flyspray, etc)
> Dieter
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