[arch-releng] too many different ways to install grub.

Dieter Plaetinck dieter at plaetinck.be
Thu Mar 19 04:32:09 EDT 2009

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:50:49 -0500
Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Dieter Plaetinck
> <dieter at plaetinck.be> wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I'm getting confused here on what is the best approach to install
> > grub programatically.  It's time to do some cleaning up :)
> >
> > Methods:
> >
> > 1) the grub-install script. gnu ships it and it looks quite good.
> > You can specify your root directory and on which blockdevice to
> > install grub. Isn't this all you need, even for softraid/lvm/..
> > setups?
> >
> > 2) use the shell directly. This is how it's been done in /arch/setup
> > script until recently (we changed the way of working then to work
> > around a problem with ext4. it looks like (on my system at least)
> > this is not needed anymore btw).
> > See
> > http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=4565577dbd2182dd49612f1e0b68288f5573bf7b
> > Is there a specific reason why this method has been in use for so
> > long? does it give more possibilities that we may need?
> >
> > 3) the install-grub script.  It is shipped with our grub package
> > but it looks like this script is written by an Arch developer. (see
> > abs and it's source) It shares a lot of code with the
> > old /arch/setup script (which makes we wonder why the same code is
> > in 2 places? the installer script does/did not call install-grub).
> > To make things more confusing, the quickinst recommends using this
> > script.
> > It seems like it wraps around method 2 and provides some additional
> > "block device to mount location" mapping. I don't understand why we
> > would need that logic (we always _know_ where /boot is mounted
> > afaik), let alone why it's there if the same logic is in the
> > installer script.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Right now, aif -p interactive uses method 2.  But I would like to
> > switch to 1 because it's cleaner and doesn't suffer NIH.  We can
> > still support special cases like softraid etc because we only need
> > to pass a different blockdevice for that, right? In my limited
> > testing grub-install seems to work fine.
> > Maybe we can even drop the install-grub script?
> This sounds good to me. I always wondered why we ship this script,
> too.
> Can anyone see any benefit to it, or should it be removed? I vote
> remove it (vanilla packages, ahem). Either way, let's go with option
> one. Using the grub shell seems like too much work, especially
> considering grub ships a script that simplifies it anyway.

Okay, a related thing: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13277
I want to clean up the dialogs we present to the user a bit.
If we switch to grub-install, we only need to ask the user on which
blockdevice (can be physical disk, partition or device mapper disk) he
wants to install grub right?
This should handle all use cases, including softraid? (eg that's the
only user input we need?)
Or does softraid require the user to install grub on more then one
In that case we could a checkbox widget instead of a select-one-item


More information about the arch-releng mailing list