[arch-releng] dm-snapshot branch is now merged in official master branch.

Ionut Biru ibiru at archlinux.org
Sun Jun 19 03:01:16 EDT 2011

On 06/19/2011 07:20 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:03:11 PM Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
>> On 06/18/2011 08:20 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote:
>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2011 05:31:00 PM Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> @Dieter: Please ask if you need help for your helper scripts.
>>>> @Sven: I fews days I will update the wiki. Please check the english
>>>> grammar. Thanks.
>>>> --------------
>>>> [archiso] Use dm-snapshot instead of aufs2 (A.K.A. "The Big Commit")
>>>> * Use device mapper + snapshot module, instead union layer filesystem.
>>>>      * A block-level approach vs vfs-level.
>>>>      * No more unofficial (Linux) things.
>>>>      * More memory is needed.
>>>> * Refactor mkarchiso.
>>>> * Refactor hooks/archiso.
>>>> * Fix install/archiso_pxe_nbd
>>>>      (due recent change in mkinitcpio-0.6.15 on
>>>> checked_modules()/all_modules()) [Thanks Dave for the improved
>>>> workaround] * New configs/releng to build official images.
>>>>      * Works with a Bash script instead of Makefile.
>>>>        (better control and easy to maintain)
>>>> * Remove configs/syslinux-iso.
>>>> * Remove archiso2dual script. Integrate functionality in configs/releng.
>>>> * New configs/baseline to build the most basic live medium or use as
>>>> template. * New README (draft). [Thanks Dieter for fixing english
>>>> grammar] --------------
>>>> Good Luck.
>>> What does this mean for the general progress for a new release?
>> There are no releases for archiso. Last release was 0.1 three years ago.
> I'm talking about the images found here: http://www.archlinux.org/download/
> We're long overdue for a new "snapshot" if you're going to be picky about
> semantics. This one is over a year old, and I don't know about other folks,
> but I've noticed it doesn't do so well anymore for setting up Arch installs
> without at least getting cfdisk updated during the live session.
> Lets not also forget that there have been a few fundamental changes to various
> parts of how Arch uses that the "current" image doesn't support that it really
> needs to. The "automatic network configuration" is broken now that networking
> in Archlinux has changed how it works, for example.
> So, I'm asking a simple question, with the dm-snapshot its being merged into
> the mainline releng, does this mean that we won't have to wait terribly much
> longer for a new image?
> Because, frankly, we could have easily soon two snapshots between the current
> one and the one that's being worked on now to at least keep an Arch system
> maintainable with official media. It is unfortunate that, because its a little
> over a year old, I can't rely on Arch's own installation media to aid in
> fixing issues I can't merely fix in a fallback initramfs boot.
> Am I making sense, now?
> I'm not really asking for an ETA. I knwo the rule on that. I'm just asking if
> this means we're simply going to see an actual snapshot release within the
> next month or so because of this merge.

we are thinking to move to a rolling release image system and we have 
been experimenting this for couples of months now.



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