[aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]

Aaron Griffin aaronmgriffin at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 13:35:05 EST 2008

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Drew Frank <goodgrue at archlinux.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Drew Frank <ajfrank at ics.uci.edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Drew Frank <goodgrue at archlinux.us> wrote:
>>>> I do this all the time as well.  One possible solution: if an "I use
>>>> this!" message were sent to the stat-tracking server automatically
>>>> from pacman upon installing a package, it would not be much of an
>>>> extension to send a "Oops, not anymore" message when it is
>>>> uninstalled.  Thoughts?
>>> That's (a) a breach of privacy and (b) something that would never get
>>> integrated into pacman.
>>> The pkgstats server doesn't keep track of user info. THe old archstats
>>> did, but we have proven time and time again that no one ever uses
>>> archstats.... we've had it for ages, have you ever used it?
>> Nope, I've never heard of archstats =p.  Maybe it could be integrated
>> into yaourt, if not pacman.  I know aurvote already is, but perhaps it
>> could be just made automated unless a user specifically opts-out.
>> Also, maybe anonymous usage info could be allowed from those users who
>> don't have AUR accounts.  It could be treated differently (as less
>> reliable) but would probably be better than nothing.  Would that
>> address the breach of privacy issue?

We tried... man we tried. Archstats has been around for some time and
we've tried to get people using it. It was a simple matter of
installing it and adding a rc.d DAEMON.

But the pkgstats thing has gotten more users in a matter of weeks than

I know everyone wants super awesome metrics here, but it's just not
possible. Between privacy issues, complacency, and many other things,
they will never ever ever be accurate. At some point we have to say
"ok, good enough".

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