[aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]

Allan McRae allan at archlinux.org
Thu Dec 4 13:37:55 EST 2008


Kristoffer Fossgård wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, bardo <ilbardo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Kristoffer Fossgård <kfs1 at online.no>
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Your all missing my point. I never said counting packages by
>>>> downloadrate is a perfect solution but that IT IS GOOD ENOUGH _and_
>>>> BETTER THAN THE VOTE SYSTEM.
>>>>         
>>> That's what I thought. Even monitoring a single download mirror could
>>> be enough, if it's not an obscure and unpopular one. At least
>>> gathered data would be statistically *relevant*, even though not
>>> accurate. We can think of a single mirror as a good approximation of
>>> the whole community, excluding i18n/l10n packages, which are highly
>>> dependendt on the physical location of the mirror itself.
>>>       
>> Guys. I have to point out a flaw in this reasoning. We are talking
>> about packages _entering_ community. Not remaining there. For packages
>> not in community, there is no download except from the AUR website. We
>> *could* in theory, track this, but there's 3 or 4 different ways one
>> can download things from the AUR
>>     
>
> There's one way technically. You download the tarball. Where are all the
> other ways? Even if there are why is this even relevant? It's not like
> a reasonably good-enough download counter is hard technically to
> accomplish(feel free to scold me if you think it is).
>   
>> Again, just downloading a package does not mean I like it or use it.
>> As someone previously stated: if you tell me you've never installed a
>> packaged, tried it, and removed it because you didn't like it, you're
>> probably lying.
>>     
>
> Your still not getting it. The system doesn't have to be 100% perfect,
> it only has to offer a representation of which packages
> are "popular". that's it. we don't need to know how many "downloads"
> are really "conscientious" because the large majority of them will be.
>   

The two systems we already have "offer a representation of which 
packages are popular" but there is much debate about how good that 
representation is.  A third is really not going to help....

Allan




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