[aur-general] [arch-dev-public] Please stop the install message insanity

Abhishek Dasgupta abhidg at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 23:28:35 EDT 2008

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Amanai <amanai at freenet.de> wrote:
> I think you are wrong. I am using MC, because of old days ;) This message
> from 7z gave me a new idea! I don't use much p7z (never i think) but a lot
> MC. If you don't know you don't search for it in a wiki. See, this is
> education! I like those tool tips :)
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:56:52 -0700, Aaron Schaefer <aaron at elasticdog.com>
> wrote:
>> I don't have a lot to offer as fas as suggestions on implementation,
>> but did want to say that I too find the over use of install messages
>> to be annoying, and it really should only show up on a first
>> installation of the particular version of software it applies too.  If
>> it could be referenced later, that would be nice, but it doesn't need
>> to be there every time.
>> One in particular that stood out for me on a recent upgrade was p7zip's
>> message:
>> :: In order to use p7zip with mc:
>> :: Add u7z to /usr/share/mc/extfs/extfs.ini
>> :: and add the following to /usr/share/mc/mc.ext:
>> ::
>> :: regex/\.(7z|7Z)$
>> ::      View=%view{ascii} 7za l %f
>> ::      Open=%cd %p#u7z
>> I do not have mc installed, nor do I think this should be in an
>> installation message even if I did.  If you think it's important, or a
>> good tip for other people, put stuff like that in the wiki.  Anyway,
>> that's just my $0.02
>> --
>> Aaron "ElasticDog" Schaefer

I too think packages should not give tips like these
on post_install messages... maybe there could be
a Tips for Packages section in the wiki to list these
stuff (which also has the advantage that other people
can more easily see/edit/add tips).

Also putting these only in post_install() is IMO sufficient
(unless a package upgrade is really going to warrant a redisplay of the msg)
Then at least people won't have to see these on every upgrade.

If a package really has to give an install msg which pertains
to some other package then it should first check if that
package exists (pacman -Q ... is it possible to call pacman
from within the post install scripts?), and then print it out.


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