[aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

Laszlo Papp djszapi2 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 1 03:00:19 EDT 2009

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Xyne <xyne at archlinux.ca> wrote:

> Sorry about the novel...
> My personal opinion is that uploading good-quality packages to the AUR
> doesn't hurt even if you decide to orphan them quickly. They provide a
> starting poing for anyone else looking for those packages.
> See below though.
> From the introductory message, I think Laszlo's technical experience is
> impressive. I think that having a TU who focuses on making Arch a
> viable alternative for embedded systems would be a great asset to Arch
> overall. Looking over his PKGBUILDs I would say that most of them look
> good at first glance.*
> I haven't particularly focused on Laszlo in the mailing list although I
> have been aware of his name popping up in the "From" column recently. I
> did instantly recognize his forum avatar though, although I hadn't
> connected that account to the posts on this list.
> In the last week or so I've been very aware of Laszlo posting on the
> forum. He is very often the first to respond in thread when someone is
> seeking help. My impression has been that his posts often come across
> as agressive or overly enthusiastic (the two are easily mistaken). He
> does provide useful information in some cases, but often it feels as
> though he would be shouting at someone face-to-face.** I realize
> that this may be a cultural and/or linguistic issue and the
> latter is not something that I would criticize someone for. The finer
> nuances of tone is easily lost in written communication even among
> native speakers, but still, it does come off quite abrasively sometimes.
> What concerns me the most though, in conjunction with Allan's and
> Loui's remarks above, is the very real possibility that Laszlo is
> attempting to socially engineer his way to becoming a TU. I present
> this merely as an idea and I honestly do not mean to offend anyone if
> this is not the case. It just seems suspicious that his forum activity
> has increase so much just shortly before posting an application,
> especially if he's been using Arch for nearly one and a half years, as
> he states in his introductory message (and as Allan points out, the
> statement's he made there do not fit well with registration dates or
> the types of questions that he was asking other TUs recently).
> It feels like he's trying to game points by being visibly "helpful".
> "Bragging" about how many packages he was maintaining, as Ghost1227
> put it, seems in line with this idea. I would suggest looking over his
> forum and mailing list posts with this in mind, especially the ones
> which appear to jump in on answers that have already been given. I'll
> leave that there for now though so as not to overly bias anyone's
> opinion before they've given this more consideration.

Archlinux Contribution isn't my short distance plan only. I like to do it, I
like to give helping hand for the newbies. I wouldn't like to be a Social
Engineer or a one who expect respect from others. I just try to do my best
in this activity.
I don't have any background purpose with forum/maillist posts, because it
wouldn't be good to do this with that distribution/community which counts
for me so much.
I wouldn't have liked to brag with my packages, it wouldn't be the best
habit, correct from anybody, I think so too.
Then I've just realised the TUs said, lesser, cleaner packages are better.

> As I said, this may be just a cultural/linguistic issue. A lot of
> enthusiasm can easily come across the wrong way too, but at this point
> I remain hesitant about this application. I really don't expect my
> opinion to weigh in that much though because I still feel like "the new
> guy" here. ;)
> * I'm not sure what the symlinks are doing in this one though:
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/libftd2xx/libftd2xx/PKGBUILD

It makes the symlinks to the present version of library/archive.

> and there are a few that still have "$startdir" in them, but I see that
> you're in the process of changing them so that's not an issue at all:
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nesc/nesc/PKGBUILD

Oops, I've forgotten to update, solved, thanks.

> **examples:
> from a previous mailing list message, before the user could even reply
> to Biro's message: "Follow suggestion from Biro Ionut!"
> A forum-thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77032

 It was just a confirmation I think, like the well-known '+1' :)

No problem about novel, thank you once more time the reply.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp

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