[aur-general] Please disown haskell-{funcmp, hopenssl, hsdns, hsemail, hsyslog}

[Evangelos Foutras]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Peter Simons <simons at cryp.to> wrote:
> Hi Evangelos,
>
>  > I can see that three out of the five packages you list were last
>  > updated in May and are no longer marked out-of-date. This means that
>  > for those three packages at least, there's no reason for disowning.
>
> right, the ones that are still out-of-date (and have been for 4 months) are:
>
>  haskell-funcmp        http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18122
>  haskell-hsdns         http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17745
>
> The other three packages I mentioned have been updated. Still, it's
> interesting to compare the times of the update on Hackage and on AUR:
>
>  haskell-hopenssl      http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17743
>
>    Updated on Hackage:          2 Mar 2010
>    Updated on AUR:             22 May 2010
>
>  haskell-hsemail       http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17746
>
>    Updated on Hackage:         25 Mar 2010
>    Updated on AUR:             30 May 2010
>
>  haskell-hsyslog       http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17751
>
>    Updated on Hackage:         26 Feb 2010
>    Updated on AUR:             22 May 2010
>
> This looks to me like the minimum time frame in which an AUR package
> gets updated by Don Stewart is 2 months or more. I don't think that's
> particularly impressive. IMHO, the Arch Linux team should re-consider
> whether it's a wise choice to grant one person a monopoly on all
> Haskell-related packages on AUR.
>
>
>  > Also, you mention that you were referred to the Arch-Haskell mailing
>  > list. If you posted there, can you provide a link to your opening
>  > message? I'd be interested to see what replies you got.
>
> At <http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/arch-haskell/2010-May/thread.html>,
> you can see the thread "Can I help to maintain Haskell packages on
> AUR?", which consists of the replies I got. My original messages was
> this one:
>
>  | From: Peter Simons <simons at cryp.to>
>  | Subject: Can I help to maintain Haskell packages on AUR?
>  | To: Don Stewart <dons at galois.com>
>  | Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:35:49 +0200
>  | Message-ID: <87vdac0wii.fsf at write-only.cryp.to>
>  |
>  | Hi Don,
>  |
>  | the AUR packages haskell-{hsdns,hsemail,funcmp} are out-of-date for quite a
>  | while now. According to gour, the reason is that the ArchHaskell team lacks
>  | developers to perform the updates.
>  |
>  | I would be happy to contribute some time and effort to the project. Can I help
>  | in some way?
>  |
>  | Take care,
>  | Peter
>
> Don told me to "stay tuned", but nothing happened.
>
>
>  > I apologize if your requests seem to go unfulfilled, but --to me at
>  > least-- the situation with arch-haskell and the AUR is a bit unclear,
>  > so I'm not sure what action should be taken.
>
> Well, when a Haskell package is obviously out-of-date on AUR and someone
> offers to take over maintenance, then disown it and let that person
> handle the package. That's the way it's done for everything else, and
> the procedure seems to work fine. It's a mystery to me why the ArchLinux
> team deviated from that procedure for Haskell packages in the first
> place.
>
> Take care,
> Peter

I agree with your last paragraph. I've disowned all five packages
since it makes sense to have their maintainer on Hackage also maintain
them on the AUR. Go ahead and adopt them.

Thanks. :)