[aur-general] [arch-dev-public] Python-3.x transition with python-2.7 update

Ng Oon-Ee ngoonee at gmail.com
Tue Jul 6 08:09:23 EDT 2010

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 10:51 +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
> On 6 July 2010 10:19, Isaac Dupree <ml at isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> wrote:
> > On 07/06/10 01:57, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Allan,
> >> I know that I'm just a regular user but I'd like to express my opinion
> >> too. I think the transition should be done when most modules and
> >> applications support Python 3. I'd not be surprised if the transition
> >> of majority of modules would take several years. By that time there
> >> may be a way how to do a dual rename.
> >
> > Hi Lukas,
> > Can you present a technical reason against doing the renaming now? Because
> > as far as I can see, Allan has worked out the kinks and it will actually not
> > harm you as a regular user at all...
> >
> > (unless you write personal scripts in python that you want to work with
> > #!something on multiple distros? (then you probably want to run them in
> > python version 2) .. I'm not sure I can think of an easy way to do that;
> > maybe for each distro you use you could put a symlink in
> > /usr/local/bin/python2 for example.)
> >
> > -Isaac
> >
> Hi Isaac,
> I don't write Python scripts but yeah, I think this is a real problem.
> The other problem is that there are not many users of python 3 out
> there.
> In a more subjective way I think whenever something is set as default
> it should be the one which has most users (in both terms of people and
> software).
> Lukas

As another user (who doesn't write Python), I'd state that 'majority
usage' is a pretty poor guideline for users of a Linux distro, and a
relatively small one at that.

I'm all for the option which reduces workload on the packagers. Of
course if things break big-time then it may be a problem, but that's
what [testing] is for, and those of us using it should know what to do
if/when breakage occurs.

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