[aur-general] bin32-wine and related [WAS: trusted users business]

Sven-Hendrik Haase sh at lutzhaase.com
Thu Jul 15 19:47:41 EDT 2010

 On 16.07.2010 01:38, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 02:25 +0300, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
>> On 07/16/2010 02:15 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 00:12 +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
>>>> I would be very delighted to see bin32-wine moving into community. If
>>>> you can package all the lib32 packages it depends on you will a) be able
>>>> to do that b) have some packages that make good community candidates
>>>> anyway (lib32 stuff). Also, why can't you do it while on vacation?
>>>> Surely you have your SSH tunnel, right? :)
>>>> -- Lord Sven-Hendrik "Svenstaro" Haase
>>> I second the bin32-wine thing =). For it to be useful though I think
>>> lib32-all-graphic-drivers need to be available?
>> no. only lib32-libgl and lib32-nvidia-utils, which already are in 
>> community.
>> lets stick in the future in $subject and start another thread if you 
>> feel you need to add something about packaging :D
> Your wish is my command.
> Okay now that I have your answer I understand my assumptions were
> mistaken, only the libgl/nvidia-utils packages are 'app-facing' in that
> sense.
> A nagging question that I've been having in the back of my mind, how
> similar is Arch's lib32 stuff with the multi-lib stuff other distros
> (random example Ubuntu since that's my previous experience) do. When I
> first started using Arch I set a chroot up for my
> wine/skype/google-earth on the understanding that lib32 would always be
> 'unofficial', but recently I've seen more lib32 packages making it to
> [community].
> Would lib32 make Arch multi-lib, then?
Arch doesn't have official multilib support yet which is why compiling
cross platform is such a pain in the ass.  We have a few littered lib32
packages to ease most of the pain but we don't even have an official
cross32-gcc. In Arch you can currently not have a true full multi lib
system easily.

Do we even want to change that? I don't know. multilib seems dirty to
many people. Personally, I consider lib32 stuff to be transitional on
the way to true 64bit and probably not too much effort should be wasted
for 32bit stuff. chroots do the job mostly fine.

I therefore encourage Ranguvar to package the remaining lib32 packages
for community and move bin32-wine in as well. Jan had a working
wine-wow64 earlier but it is a freak show.

-- Sven-Hendrik

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