[aur-general] Aurphan in community

Ray Rashif schiv at archlinux.org
Fri May 6 01:54:47 EDT 2011

On 30 April 2011 17:48, Stefan Husmann <stefan-husmann at t-online.de> wrote:
> Am 30.04.2011 10:10, schrieb Allan McRae:
>> On 30/04/11 17:36, Loui Chang wrote:
>>> On Sat 30 Apr 2011 16:12 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
>>>> On 30/04/11 12:25, Loui Chang wrote:
>>>>> On Fri 29 Apr 2011 21:49 -0400, keenerd wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to move Aurphan into community. I've added a number of
>>>>>> features to it lately, and it has become an automated means of
>>>>>> answering "what can I do to help Arch", parsing and summarizing the
>>>>>> todo list, the bugtracker and the orphans. The one random dev I've
>>>>>> asked seems cool with it, however he thought a wider consensus should
>>>>>> be found. It has enough votes but....
>>>>>> Aurphan could be considered an AUR helper. By default it searches the
>>>>>> AUR for AUR packages you already have installed. It does not download
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>> I will change it so the default behavior does not search the AUR.
>>>>>> (New default would display the --help) I won't change the name, on
>>>>>> account of it being cute.
>>>>>> aur page: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43726
>>>>>> project page: http://kmkeen.com/aurphan/
>>>>> This script seems like a really nice idea, but if it deals with
>>>>> unsupported packages it should remain in that domain. Maybe move the
>>>>> functionality that deals with unsupported into an add-on that you can
>>>>> install separately?
>>>> We should also drop wget, curl and firefox from the repos as they can be
>>>> used to download unsupported packages... In fact, this script is safer
>>>> because it does not even do that.
>>> Allan, I appreciate your work but you completely missed the point.
>>> wget, curl and firefox do not contain functionality to specifically
>>> access the unsupported packages. They are general network programs.
>>> I guess it depends on what your vision is. If you want more people
>>> expecting support for unsupported packages, then put these scripts into
>>> extra or community. I can't stop you, I'm just a lowly nobody and you're
>>> a big bad dev.
>> My point was that (as far as I can tell) this software does nothing with
>> AUR packages other than collates a bit of information. It does not allow
>> downloading or building packages. I find it difficult to see how this could
>> be seen as supporting AUR packages.
>> Allan
> I think aurphan does not support aur packages but it eases to have better
> quality of the AUR as such, in recruiting more maintainers and having less
> orphaned packages there. We should support this. So go for it, Kyle!

Let me just confirm this: it is the first of its kind, in that it
"communicates" with the AUR. There is no other tool in the repos that
makes a connection to the AUR, right?


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