[aur-general] NVIDIA drivers

[Rob Til Freedmen]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Maxime Gauduin <alucryd at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 26, 2013 7:42 AM, "Maxime Gauduin" <alucryd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Jan 26, 2013 6:10 AM, "Rob Til Freedmen" <
>> rob.til.freedman at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > There is a dependency in nvidia/PKGBUILD which is totally wrong
>> > > > depends=( [...] "nvidia-utils=${pkgver}")
>> > > >
>> > > > It leads to a circular dependency at ***build*** time and isn't
>> really
>> > > needed
>> > > > at run time for nvidia to work.
>> > > >
>> > > > depends=( [...] "nvidia-utils") should be enough to pull it in when
>> > > > installing/updating
>> > > >
>> > > > I've reported it last year but didn't got any response from the
>> > > maintainer.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Have you tried installing different versions of nvidia-utils and
>> nvidia?
>> > > There's a reason for that versions dependency.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > I did once by mistake, that wasn't pretty. No the hard dependencies are
>> > required, the problem is the depends array implies makedepends, but
>> > sometimes it is wrong like here. Making depends and makedepends
>> > independent, then have makepkg check for depends only at install time
>> would
>> > make more sense. However that would mean a rewrite of these 2 arrays in
>> all
>> > the PKGBUILDs in the AUR, I don't see that happening.
>> >
>> If that makes sense I'm sure a feature request on pacman wouldn't be out of
>> place. Minimal benefit though, as this really only affects a handful of
>> packages. Doesn't makepkg have a flag to ignore dependencies? Arch laptop
>> died so I can't easily check, that would be easier on everyone involved
>> (except yaourt and similar users)
>>
>
>
> makepkg does have such an option (-d) and yaourt should too since it is a
> wrapper. I have nevertheless posted a feature request on makepkg here:
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/33574
> While I too believe it's not worth the trouble seeing it concerns only a
> few packages, I'll see what feedback it gets.
> --
> Alucryd
>
> "In the name of God, impure souls of the living dead shall be banished into
> eternal damnation. Amen."

Maybe I'm missing something ... but what could possible go wrong
if we go with "nvidia-utils" instead of "nvidia-utils=${pkgver}" ?

There's only one package named nvidia-utils build from the same
source and always updated in tandem in the repo.

nvidia really only depends on the kernel header and nvidia-utils
is build from the same source - depends on nvidia at build time.

Please be patient with me, I don't get it yet.