[aur-general] Compiz package naming

[Charles Bos]

The merger has taken place for both packages.


On 4 August 2014 14:31, Charles Bos <charlesbos1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok folks. As there have been no comments over the weekend I've uploaded
> compiz and compiz-bzr:
>
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/compiz/
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/compiz-bzr/
>
> I've filed requests that compiz-core-devel be merged with compiz and
> compiz-core-bzr be merged with compiz-bzr.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On 1 August 2014 15:04, Charles Bos <charlesbos1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @/dev/rs0 Understood. I'll happily take over maintenance. It makes sense
>> to have the two packages standardised.
>>
>> @all If alucryd or anyone else doesn't raise any objections by Monday
>> then I'll upload compiz and compiz-bzr and request compiz-core-devel and
>> compiz-core-bzr be merged into them.
>>
>> Is that acceptable for everybody?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On 31 July 2014 20:49, Colin Robinson <beardedlinuxgeek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally agree with you. I was just pointing out why the packages are
>>> named the way they are. Please change them unless alucryd wants to weigh in
>>> on the discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/31/2014 08:36 PM, Rob McCathie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guess i'll stop bottom posting when everyone else is top posting :P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Colin Robinson
>>>> <beardedlinuxgeek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Comment by alucryd 2014-04-02 07:25
>>>>> "beardedlinuxgeek: Wrong, the latest stable branch is 0.8.x, the 0.9.x
>>>>> branch is unstable.
>>>>>
>>>> This is simply incorrect, as i've explained earlier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Comment by alucryd 2014-04-01 08:1
>>>>> "Merged a few bzr packages into this one. Could you upload it as
>>>>> 'compiz-core-bzr', all other distros use the 'compiz-core' name. I'll
>>>>> do the
>>>>> merge afterwards."
>>>>>
>>>> Meh. Upstream doesn't recognise the concept of "compiz-core" since the
>>>> 0.9 series. Do we comply with upstream or do we comply with other
>>>> distros? Methinks upstream.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sidenote:
>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.paradoxcomputers.com.au/arch/packages/compiz-0.
>>>>>>>>> 9.11.2-1.src.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After some things were noticed and some discussion had in the
>>>> compiz-core-bzr comments, this package has been updated and anyone
>>>> reviewing it should re-download it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rob McCathie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Comment by beardedlinuxgeek 2014-04-02 07:39
>>>>> "This package isn't compiz-core. It's compiz-core + all the plugins +
>>>>> ccsm +
>>>>> the gtk decorator + the kde decorator. Take a look at the components
>>>>> (http://releases.compiz.org/components/), compiz-core is just one of
>>>>> 17
>>>>> packages. This package, on the other hand, is all of them"
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> So obviously I support korrode's new naming scheme of changing things
>>>>> back
>>>>> to how they were originally named. It doesn't matter to me if you
>>>>> rename
>>>>> compiz-core to compiz-legacy-core or compiz0.8-core, but the word
>>>>> "core"
>>>>> needs to be dropped from all the 0.9x packages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/31/2014 06:40 PM, /dev/rs0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it makes more sense for you to take over my package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I mentioned, it's basically a derivative of the bzr package. I do
>>>>>> enjoy
>>>>>> maintaining packages but I figured, as the bzr package receives
>>>>>> development,
>>>>>> it would be simple enough for you to apply any changes to both
>>>>>> packages
>>>>>> instead of always going through me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/31/2014 06:58 AM, Charles Bos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm just wondering if the change should go ahead now as the idea
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> been floating around for nearly a week and nobody has raised
>>>>>>> objections.
>>>>>>> Regarding the 0.9 bzr package, that would involve me uploading
>>>>>>> compiz-bzr
>>>>>>> and then requesting compiz-core-bzr be merged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding the stable package, someone should upload the package
>>>>>>> korrode
>>>>>>> made and ask for compiz-core-devel to be merged into it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /dev/sr0, what are your feelings on continuing to maintain your
>>>>>>> package?
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you want to continue maintenance then you should be the one to
>>>>>>> upload the
>>>>>>> korrode's package and ask for the merger. If you're sure you would
>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>> me to take over as you suggested earlier then please let me know and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> we know where we stand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the subject of the stable package, a tarball for 0.9.11.2 has been
>>>>>>> released on launchpad.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 July 2014 14:11, Charles Bos <charlesbos1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  That's great korrode. Thanks. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is everyone agreed vis-a-vis the new name scheme? I only ask
>>>>>>>> because a
>>>>>>>> TU
>>>>>>>> seemed to have other ideas regarding Compiz package naming
>>>>>>>> consistency -
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> for instance was asked to rename compiz-bzr to compiz-core-bzr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26 July 2014 16:39, Rob McCathie <korrode at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Rob McCathie <korrode at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Charles Bos <
>>>>>>>>>> charlesbos1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi /dev/rs0,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chazza here. If you don't want to continue maintaining
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> compiz-core-devel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd be fine with taking over.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 July 2014 17:17, /dev/rs0 <rs0 at secretco.de.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it definitely makes sense to drop the 'core' name and
>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'legacy' scheme as described.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, seeing as 'compiz-core-bzr' is more actively
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> maintained, and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that 'compiz-core-devel' is basically a derivative now; I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> curious
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if Chazza would like to adopt the package.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I occasionally receive patches from him and notice much more
>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>> involvement on the Wiki/AUR/Forums in regard to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'compiz-core-bzr'. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to be an unnecessary middleman for such an infrequently updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> package.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /dev/rs0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07/25/2014 03:43 AM, Rob McCathie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello AUR general & Compiz package maintainers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was some discussion about Compiz packages a little while
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think that much came of it. I'd like to re-open the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My opinions/suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calling the 0.8 series "compiz" and the 0.9 series
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz-devel"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer correct, it hasn't been for quite some time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All information on this page:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.compiz.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is completely wrong and out of date, like 5 years out of date,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be used as a reference for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking of the state of Compiz should be done from here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/compiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development of the 0.8 series is as close to being dead as it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be. Unless you count 2 tiny commits 5 months ago, nothing has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done in 16 months, and even that 16 month old commit was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change just to get it working with KDE 4.10, with the commit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that being an additional 5 months back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgit.compiz.org/compiz/core/log/?h=compiz-0.8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is pretty simple, "compiz" becomes the 0.9
>>>>>>>>>>>>> series,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.8 series becomes "compiz-legacy".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 0.9 series packages that have "core" in their name should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed, since the concept of Compiz being split up has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the 0.9 series. The 0.9 series doesn't have a "core"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> component,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just "compiz".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some examples:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> martadinata666's "compiz-core" package would become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-core"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  dev_rs0's "compiz-core-devel" package would become simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chazza's "compiz-core-bzr" package would become "compiz-bzr"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexiondotorg's "compiz-core-mate" package would become
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-core-mate"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My "compiz-gtk-standalone" package would become
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-gtk-standalone"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the "compiz-fusion-plugins-*" packages would become
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-fusion-plugins-*"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are everyone's thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rob McCathie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charles, i started setting up my new package for Manjaro and
>>>>>>>>>> since it
>>>>>>>>>> included converting the package back to using release archives and
>>>>>>>>>> doing 90% of the work to make a suitable generic 'compiz' package
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> AUR, i figured i'd post it to you, maybe save you a few mins:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  http://www.paradoxcomputers.com.au/arch/packages/compiz-0.
>>>>>>>>> 9.11.2-1.src.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I retained your style and patchset, the only thing i did change
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> setting cpp as a default plugin at compile time, rather than
>>>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>>>> the .desktop file... because who isn't going to use ccp? ;)
>>>>>>>>>> Plus minimal users who start compiz from their xinitrc get no use
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the .desktop file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The package is named simply "compiz". If we're going to go with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> naming convention as discussed, Charles can simply upload this
>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>> (or whatever), /dev/sr0 you could just flag your package for
>>>>>>>>>> deletion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Rob McCathie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry not deletion, get it merged after Chazza uploads.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>