[aur-general] Compiz package naming

[/dev/rs0]

Hi Charles,

I think it makes more sense for you to take over my package.

As I mentioned, it's basically a derivative of the bzr package. I do 
enjoy maintaining packages but I figured, as the bzr package receives 
development, it would be simple enough for you to apply any changes to 
both packages instead of always going through me.

On 07/31/2014 06:58 AM, Charles Bos wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> So I'm just wondering if the change should go ahead now as the idea has
> been floating around for nearly a week and nobody has raised objections.
> Regarding the 0.9 bzr package, that would involve me uploading compiz-bzr
> and then requesting compiz-core-bzr be merged.
>
> Regarding the stable package, someone should upload the package korrode
> made and ask for compiz-core-devel to be merged into it.
>
> /dev/sr0, what are your feelings on continuing to maintain your package? If
> you want to continue maintenance then you should be the one to upload the
> korrode's package and ask for the merger. If you're sure you would prefer
> me to take over as you suggested earlier then please let me know and then
> we know where we stand.
>
> On the subject of the stable package, a tarball for 0.9.11.2 has been
> released on launchpad.net
>
> Regards
>
>
> On 27 July 2014 14:11, Charles Bos <charlesbos1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's great korrode. Thanks. :)
>>
>> Is everyone agreed vis-a-vis the new name scheme? I only ask because a TU
>> seemed to have other ideas regarding Compiz package naming consistency - I
>> for instance was asked to rename compiz-bzr to compiz-core-bzr.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 July 2014 16:39, Rob McCathie <korrode at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Rob McCathie <korrode at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Charles Bos <charlesbos1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi /dev/rs0,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chazza here. If you don't want to continue maintaining
>>> compiz-core-devel
>>>>> I'd be fine with taking over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 July 2014 17:17, /dev/rs0 <rs0 at secretco.de.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it definitely makes sense to drop the 'core' name and take on
>>> the
>>>>>> 'legacy' scheme as described.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, seeing as 'compiz-core-bzr' is more actively
>>> maintained, and
>>>>>> that 'compiz-core-devel' is basically a derivative now; I've been
>>> curious
>>>>>> if Chazza would like to adopt the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I occasionally receive patches from him and notice much more community
>>>>>> involvement on the Wiki/AUR/Forums in regard to 'compiz-core-bzr'. I
>>> seem
>>>>>> to be an unnecessary middleman for such an infrequently updated
>>> package.
>>>>>> /dev/rs0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/25/2014 03:43 AM, Rob McCathie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello AUR general & Compiz package maintainers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was some discussion about Compiz packages a little while ago, i
>>>>>>> don't think that much came of it. I'd like to re-open the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My opinions/suggestions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calling the 0.8 series "compiz" and the 0.9 series "compiz-devel" is
>>>>>>> no longer correct, it hasn't been for quite some time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All information on this page:
>>>>>>> http://www.compiz.org/
>>>>>>> is completely wrong and out of date, like 5 years out of date, and
>>>>>>> should not be used as a reference for anything.
>>>>>>> Tracking of the state of Compiz should be done from here:
>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/compiz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Development of the 0.8 series is as close to being dead as it could
>>>>>>> be. Unless you count 2 tiny commits 5 months ago, nothing has been
>>>>>>> done in 16 months, and even that 16 month old commit was a minor
>>>>>>> change just to get it working with KDE 4.10, with the commit prior to
>>>>>>> that being an additional 5 months back.
>>>>>>> http://cgit.compiz.org/compiz/core/log/?h=compiz-0.8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My suggestion is pretty simple, "compiz" becomes the 0.9 series, the
>>>>>>> 0.8 series becomes "compiz-legacy".
>>>>>>> Any 0.9 series packages that have "core" in their name should have it
>>>>>>> removed, since the concept of Compiz being split up has been dropped
>>>>>>> since the 0.9 series. The 0.9 series doesn't have a "core" component,
>>>>>>> it's just "compiz".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some examples:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> martadinata666's "compiz-core" package would become
>>> "compiz-legacy-core"
>>>>>>> dev_rs0's "compiz-core-devel" package would become simply "compiz"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chazza's "compiz-core-bzr" package would become "compiz-bzr"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> flexiondotorg's "compiz-core-mate" package would become
>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-core-mate"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My "compiz-gtk-standalone" package would become
>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-gtk-standalone"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the "compiz-fusion-plugins-*" packages would become
>>>>>>> "compiz-legacy-fusion-plugins-*"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are everyone's thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Rob McCathie
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Charles, i started setting up my new package for Manjaro and since it
>>>> included converting the package back to using release archives and
>>>> doing 90% of the work to make a suitable generic 'compiz' package for
>>>> AUR, i figured i'd post it to you, maybe save you a few mins:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.paradoxcomputers.com.au/arch/packages/compiz-0.9.11.2-1.src.tar.gz
>>>> I retained your style and patchset, the only thing i did change was
>>>> setting cpp as a default plugin at compile time, rather than modifying
>>>> the .desktop file... because who isn't going to use ccp? ;)
>>>> Plus minimal users who start compiz from their xinitrc get no use from
>>>> the .desktop file.
>>>>
>>>> The package is named simply "compiz". If we're going to go with the
>>>> naming convention as discussed, Charles can simply upload this package
>>>> (or whatever), /dev/sr0 you could just flag your package for deletion.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rob McCathie
>>>
>>> Sorry not deletion, get it merged after Chazza uploads.
>>>
>>