[aur-general] TU Application: André Silva

Jelle van der Waa jelle at vdwaa.nl
Thu May 18 11:27:51 UTC 2017

On 05/15/17 at 11:14am, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote:
> On 05/15/2017 10:43 AM, NicoHood wrote:
> > Because there are people who don't use (much) proprietary software and
> > still want to benefit from Arch. We are not only a free distribution but
> > I think its a nice addition to have free kernels available. Also another
> > kernel maintainer can make the normal kernel testing faster than it is
> > now. I appreciate the work on free software and we should give users the
> > freedom of choice.
> Not sure I understand this.
> Anyone who chooses to use a libre kernel is presumably doing so because
> they believe in a moral argument against the use of proprietary blobs of
> any sort.
> It can be assumed that such a person doesn't want to use any of the
> other proprietary blobs we ship in the repos... however, it is not as
> though we somehow care about distinguishing between them, so anyone who
> chooses to use our repos would have to do a fair amount of work to
> *protect themselves against* the natural behavior of the Arch repos.
> Parabola already perfectly fulfills this role on behalf of its users,
> and the only real benefit of shipping our own libre stuff is to give it
> the official Arch stamp of approval and thereby permit such individuals
> to receive support from the official Arch support Fora.
> As far as kernels go, I don't see how shipping another kernel and
> dividing our current users between 4 kernels instead of three kernels is
> supposed to make testing and signoffs of the three we have right now, go
> any faster. If anything, we will have some number less eyes on the stock
> kernel, ensuring we are less likely to catch errors with its specific
> configuration.
> One doesn't need to have push access to the package repositories in
> order to test the kernel...
> ...
> Obviously you all can do whatever you want, and maybe there are other
> reasons to choose to include André Silva among your number. But from
> where I am looking in from the sidelines, I simply don't see what
> non-Parabola-specific *values* he intends to bring with him to enhance
> the Arch Linux experience.
> (From the Wiki)
> The minimum requirements to becoming a TU are as follows:
> ...
>     a general idea of the kind of packages you want to maintain
> (basically, why do you want to become TU?)
> If the answer to that question is merely "to subsume and obsolete
> Parabola", then I suddenly start being confused about the general
> direction of the Arch Linux project.
> I feel sure I must be missing something, somewhere, somehow...
> -- 
> Eli Schwartz

André, would love to see your response to the questions from Eli and

Jelle van der Waa
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