[aur-general] TU membership application

[Jean Lucas]

On Fri, 2019-08-16 at 17:47 -0400, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote:
> On 8/16/19 3:19 PM, Jean Lucas via aur-general wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > My name is Jean Lucas, and I'm sending this email to submit my
> > candidacy
> > for Trusted User member. As per the latest TU bylaws, I'm being
> > sponsored by both Alexander Rødseth and Sergej Pupykin.
> > 
> > I've been an Arch Linux user since around a little before I
> > registered
> > my AUR account (January 2015, username "flacks" [1]), and I've
> > recently
> > had a few of my packages adopted into [community], namely "cage",
> > "coturn", and "swaybg".
> > 
> > I'm currently a computer science student with a particular interest
> > in
> > software engineering ranging from low-level (with a few
> > contributions to
> > projects like coreboot and postmarketOS) all the way up to web
> > development (my current focus), and as such, would love to help
> > maintain
> > Arch's [community] repo in an official capacity to be part of the
> > team
> > that gives Arch users a robust, high-quality Linux software
> > experience;
> > as well as to help maintain, manage, and watch over the operation
> > of the
> > AUR and it's vast sea of software packaging recipes.
> > 
> > If I were accepted to become a TU, I'd like to adopt and move the
> > following packages (all having over 10 votes in the AUR) from the
> > AUR
> > into [community]:
> > 
> > anydesk, downgrade, exercism, flutter, godot, itch, mattermost-
> > desktop,
> > nvm, reaper, spotify, teamviewer, thermald, unity-editor, and
> > unityhub,
> > for starters!
> 
> In the case of Spotify specifically, the AUR maintainer is already a
> TU,
> and had you asked him before being eager to move it to community he'd
> have probably told you that you're not the first or even the second
> (or
> third? I lose track) person to propose moving it.
> I think someone may have also suggested it in a TU application
> before...

Understood. My apologies for not having researched this well enough
beforehand.

> 
> Either way you should definitely ask the maintainer if it is okay to
> move it to community. If that maintainer is a TU, and they haven't
> moved
> it to community on their own, there is probably a reason.

Understood. My intention was to open a dialogue with the maintainer of
any owned package before taking any action.

> 
> downgrade:
> 
> I'm quite hesitant to have "downgrade" in the repos, it seems to be
> an
> immense antipattern --  not quite as bad as an AUR helper
> in[community],
> but nearly. Also isn't even well written as it does a ton of parsing
> HTML files and pacman.conf in sed, instead of using either pacman-
> conf
> or an HTML parser. I really wish that people who wrote complex
> integrations around pacman/makepkg would follow pacman development --
> in
> fact, many of the current crop of AUR helpers do exactly that, which
> is
> why I would even dare use some of them.
> 
> If we *were* going to add a program to pander to the desire to have
> partially updated systems, I would prefer to create a new tool from
> scratch.
> 
> Also "downgrade" indexing archive.archlinux.org (with sed or anything
> else) is problematic due to the fact that we no longer store many
> versions of packages but upload them to archive.org and delete them
> from
> our own server (and use rewrite rules to let users download the
> files,
> but that doesn't help to build an HTML index). So I'm decidedly
> unsure
> how useful it's supposed to be even at fulfilling its desired goal.

Understood. downgrade can be scratched until a better solution everyone
agrees with comes along.

> 
> > Additionally, I would express my willingness to help co-maintain
> > "firejail" (already in [community]), as its a project I have a
> > higher
> > interest in and contribute to occasionally; as well as to help get
> > "ghidra" in good enough shape to propose moving it into
> > [community],
> > since I've had lots of fun building it [2], its a phenomenal piece
> > of
> > open-source software, and it'd be nice to have it officially
> > supported
> > by the Arch community (it also has a nice number of votes in the
> > AUR)!
> > 
> > Thank you for your time, and thank you to all who help make Arch a
> > great OS!
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Jean Lucas
> > 
> > 
> > [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/flacks
> > [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/log/?h=ghidra-git
> > 
> 
> 
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