[aur-general] I want to update gtkhtml4 in AUR

[hagar]

On 28/1/19 8:46 am, Mark Weiman wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-01-28 at 08:09 +0800, hagar wrote:
...
> As I mentioned a couple of months back - Not everyone has the same
>> communication skills.
>>
>> What may be clear to you may not be to someone else. I learned the
>> hard
>> way that -
>>
>> "There is no such thing as common sense."
>>
>>
>> All I wish to do is help improve the AUR.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Macca
> HTTP 403 is an HTTP code and is therefore documented with the HTTP RPC.
>
> .git/config is a file part of a git repository and is documented with
> the git application. The use of git especially is understood to be,
> well, understood before using the AUR.
>
> Arch Linux, as far as I'm aware, assumes you know about how to use
> tools like git and I would also assume that you are capable of figuring
> out what an HTTP error code means based on something simple like the
> Wikipedia page that discusses HTTP status codes in detail.
>
> If you feel otherwise though, the Arch Wiki can be edited by any Arch
> user that creates an account on the Wiki, but that's not something the
> TUs or others like me in this channel are responsible for since its
> kinda assumed to be at least familiar with git before using it (which
> the AUR uses it).
>
> Mark

I am concerned that the experienced users of tgis list dont seem to want 
to help "newbies"

Any time they feel a question is in the realm of "Common Sense" they 
seem to make "Assumptions"

then the user is summarily "told off".


A general question to the community.

Do you want new users or not?


You cant just make assumptions.

You cant just tell people that the it is well documented.

Why don't you just help them along in the first place. Build them up and 
actually point them to helpful pages first.

Then actually check the documentation from a new users point of view to 
see if it -

1. Has missing information.

2. Can be misinterpreted. (Not everyone has good language skills.)


I am experienced in Linux, from LTFS, to Ubuntu. But have never had to 
use git until now. I missed a simple thing that I managed to fix myself.

But I never make the assumption that others can do what I do.


Please rather than flame new users, can we nurture and train them 
instead. Give them specific help rather than a general "Read the docs."

I have found that for every person who has a problem and asks the 
question there are hundreds of people who have the same problem But 
don't ask.


If anyone has watched Sesame Street you will be familiar with -

Asking questions is a good way of getting answers.


Please, Please, can the experienced users here help rather than flame.


Just my 0.02 cents worth.