[aur-general] TU Application - serebit

Jonas Witschel diabonas at archlinux.org
Tue Jul 26 15:35:24 UTC 2022

On 2022-07-25 20:09, Jonathon Fernyhough via aur-general wrote:
> While EndeavourOS is one of the closest derivatives I'm aware of, they still
> have their own repo with some tooling and hooks which might (maybe) affect
> things once installed (package building can/should be done in a clean Arch
> chroot so that's never an issue). Therefore, running some instance of Arch
> proper (even if it's in a VM) is likely to be important, as you say, for
> testing and validation.

I would indeed expect all building and smoketesting of packages to be carried
out on a vanilla Arch system. Doing the building on a derivative distribution,
however small its modifications might be, might introduce subtle
reproducibility bugs that I would like to avoid at all costs. I also expect all
packagers to do basic testing of their packages on a standard system to catch
obvious packaging mistakes.

> Having said all of this, I'd also wait to hear from any devs/TUs who want to
> weigh in on this; they might consider that an Arch TU not running Arch might
> be a bit weird. xD

On the other hand, I have absolutely no issue with packagers also running or
contributing to derivative distributions: it feels to me like there are not
many connections between upstream Arch and its ports/derivatives, which is a
pity. I think there is a lot of collaboration potential not only w.r.t.
packaging, but also regarding usage and improvement of distribution-specific
tooling (e.g. dbscripts/repod, keyringctl, ...). Having an active EndeavourOS
contributor feels like a great way to bridge this perceived gap a bit. 

To reiterate, I expect any member of the Arch staff to take an active role in
the Arch community. Using Arch only as a "service platform" to get packages
into derivative distributions wouldn't work well, but that is absolutely not
the impression I get from this TU application. On the other hand, there is no
rule forbidding staff members to use other distributions as well, and I see no
reason why derivatives of Arch should be special in that regard.

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