[pacman-dev] Doing more stuff with optdepends
allan at archlinux.org
Tue Mar 24 07:58:15 EDT 2009
Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:15:10 +1000
> Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org> wrote:
>> I have been thinking about optdepends and if we can improve the
>> handling of them. So, given I am better at making wiki pages than
>> What do people think about this idea? Are there other sensible
>> additions to that proposal?
>> I know that optdepends were originally for getting rid of
>> informational messages but I have some packages on my system that are
>> installed "explicitly" when they are really (opt)deps for other
>> pacman-dev mailing list
>> pacman-dev at archlinux.org
> Some good suggestions.
> 1) Re: "optdepends are not orphans unless a flag is specified".
> Maybe you could also just show the listing of all
> "orphans" (including optdeps) and next to it add something like
> "(optdep for package foo, bar)" where appropriate.
I would like a way of separating them because I think it is quite common
to do a "pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qqtd)". Well, at least it is for as I
install anything I test with "--asdep". I have changed that a bit as
the stuff in brackets should not be printed with the -Qq flag.
> 2) I would really like a way to just "list all installed optdeps". that
> way. if you want to "clone" all installed packages to another system,
> you just need the list of installed packages and a list of the optdeps.
> (if you like the idea from the previous point, I can use that and just
> grep on optdep and I'm happy). Or maybe even one list of all explicit
> packages, with next to them their installed optdeps.
Well, I think in my proposal "pacman -Qtd --optdep | grep optdepend |
cut -f1 -d' '", or something like that would work for this.
> 3)Re: "optdepends can be removed with -Rs"
> isn't this just the consequence of optdeps being installed with --asdep?
Sort of. It is mainly a consequence of pacman recognizing them as a
dependency of the parent package, but --asdep of course plays a part.
Feel free to add comments to the wiki page. I made it primarily for
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