[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] adding http user/group to filesystems

[Aaron Griffin]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Arvid Ephraim Picciani
<aep at ibcsolutions.de> wrote:
> On Monday 23 June 2008 16:59:30 Aaron Griffin wrote:
>> I agree with Simo and Jan here. While we could easily take the "do it
>> yourself" road, I always preferred the "sane defaults" side of Arch,
>> myself. That is - install some crap and it works out-of-the-box in a
>> pretty decent manner. It's a very small stretch from "sane defaults"
>> to "secure defaults". Unless you think sane != secure.
>
> so this is the official announcment that the vanilla-style-do-it-yourself for
> professional engineers and manual readers is no more, and that in future
> there will be rather debian-style-out-of-the-box solutions for  those who
> want it to "just work" ?
> I'm fine with that new way. I'm going to look for a different distro then
> instead of having to unpatch more and more packages. I just would like to
> have a clear signal finally. The back and forth between those different
> styles is really painfull for somone who has to actually maintain a few
> dozens of machines.
> I guess you can run your systems easy and secure with the debian style, but
> you have to have a different kind of personality then me.
> thanks

Not to be snide, but your emails are always confrontational. No it is
not an official announcement, no it is not a drastic change - for
fuck's sake it's just a user and group added to one package. If you
don't like it, then for god's sake build apache yourself.