[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package

Tom Gundersen teg at jklm.no
Tue Aug 28 05:05:35 EDT 2012


On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky <l.jirkovsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such
> apps work without systemd.

So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional
at compile-time rather than at run-time (which would have been ideal,
and not much more difficult to code). That means our packages cannot
support both scenarios at the same time.

As to Ubuntu, remember that they lag quite far behind our packages, so
while they probably will produce patches, don't expect it to happen in
time for it to help us. Notice for instance that Ubuntu supposedly
took over consolekit, but no release has happened and without
backporting patches from git our consolekit package would be
completely broken.

In short: avoiding systemd will be a lot of work, and you will be more
or less alone in doing it.

-t


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