[arch-general] Newbies in Arch [WAS: Suspend seems not to work with nVidia Nouveau driver]

[Stefan Wilkens]

2012/1/4 Angel Velásquez <angvp at archlinux.org>:
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> Again, as i've saying before, i don't know who the hell said that the
> natural replacement of ubuntu is Arch .. out community is people who
> like to read, and people who like to investigate .. not people who
> like some magic recipes. Even if somepeople wrote some of these
> recipes for Arch, our distro try to teach the user, if you are willing
> to learn, a couple of troll comments it's part of the scenary,
> whining.. so please stop crying.. and start researching.
>
> That's said, i've been helping a lot of people in this community, i've
> discussed with lot of people too, and i got troll comments several
> times, despite my contributions of i've helped them in the past, i
> don't think in that deeply, i just let it go, my advice.. is when you
> don't like a reply.. just let it go.
>
> I won't say sorry if you feel offended, stop the drama. In fact i
> congratulate that you actually hhave learned something in this
> community (in this mailing list at least).
>
> Cheers.
>
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> Angel Velásquez
> angvp @ irc.freenode.net
> Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User
> Linux Counter: #359909
> http://www.angvp.com
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The Ubuntu forums had a fairly active Arch Linux related subforum[3]
for a long time, a weird subforum for a distro forum to have wouldn't
you say?. While that is now no longer available, it certainly caused a
flow from Ubuntu to Arch Linux. Add to that the apparent wild growth
of "Arch Linux is awesome" reports on the web[2] and you have your
source of mass-interest as opposed to those looking specifically for
what Arch has to offer.

As a general remark: perhaps we are just suffering a marketing
problem. Many less-experienced Linux users or even first-time Linux
users finding their way to our forums or IRC channels seem to
misunderstand the KISS ("..tries to keep it simple") principle as
prominent on archlinux.org. People seem to think that this implies a
click-and-go-DE-prefab distro, something we certainly are not. I
certainly agree that attempting to portrait Arch as such is bad for
both the user and the distro itself.

And as for the IRC channels: these channels are advertised as
discussion channels[1]. Support may be found there but it's certainly
not the only thing going on in our channels, they are not comparable
to the "Newbie" subforum and shouldn't be treated as such.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_Channels
[2] http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-bsd-documentations.html
[3] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=321

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