[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

[Kevin Chadwick]

> Hi,
> 
> Am 23.07.2012 17:29, schrieb Kevin Chadwick:
> > Tested, simply sophisticated and as fast as you make it. 
> 
> There is no parallelization, no socket activation and no auto mounting.
> In no way can it be as fast as systemd.
> 

init=/bin/sh

That happens a lot in embedded.

> > Once you get to desktop level and SSDs, who cares about a few seconds.
> 
> It's not only about speed, but speed is a nice bonus. Its also about
> reliability. But I'm not going to enumerate the advantages of systemd
> over and over again. Just read the blog posts by Lennart ;).
> 

That is completely debateable. I hope you look at counter arguments too.

I like what systemd does in code in the main. I just think it needs a
re-design to be more usable on the commandline and be more
modular so pid1 is small if it cannot stay as init.

> > The fastest booting systems (< 1 second) use init and won't use systemd.
> 
> Which systems do you have in mind? Personally I can tell you out of
> experience that my system boots up faster with systemd.
> 

Low memory embedded devices such as an mp3 player. I would also rather
desktop and embedded systems shared pid1 as a simple init like upstart
does.

> > WRT pulse audio it won't run under a grsecurity kernel so first
> > I'd say define modern desktop. How functional, how secure.
> 
> On a "modern desktop" you probably have bigger concerns regarding
> security then running grsecurity. That said it should run fine with
> SElinux, which Fedora is using by default. Furthermore grsecurity seems
> to focus on servers anyway, so I'm not sure why you even bring this up?
> 

Not really, it is used less on desktops because more code like Adobe
Flash breaks without intervention. My Arch desktops run grsecurity
kernels.

> Best regards,
> Karol Babioch
> 



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