[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

[Michał Zegan]

this is very well known to me, and also quite logical. pulseaudio is a 
session process, espeakup is a system process. that whole thing actually 
means it will have exactly those problems.

W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:32, Storm Dragon pisze:
> Howdy,
> No one has any clue what is stopping it. People have contacted the 
> pulse developers who say it's something with espeakup, but then some 
> think it may be speech-dispatcher's crappy pulse implimentation, which 
> may be the case, cause I think it will work if a dekstop infironment 
> isn't loaded with orca.
> No one has any clue how, or even what, to fix lol. So, I just avoid 
> pulse.
> Thanks
> Storm
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 04:26:40PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>> Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will
>> be routed through pulseaudio.
>>
>> I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it.
>> Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into
>> another plugin?
>>
>> What is preventing speakup from using pulseaudio?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Storm Dragon 
>> <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> No, I don't have pulseaudio installed. I actually can't use it 
>>> because it
>>> will not allow me to use speakup in the console. Interestingly 
>>> enough, I
>>> read something that said moc doesn't have support for pulseaudio. 
>>> So, I must
>>> have found outdated info.
>>> Still, I wonder if we are missing a plugin in alsa itself?
>>> thanks
>>> Storm
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 03:09:38PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you using pulseaudio? This works out of the box for me with
>>>> pulseaudio. moc controls the volume of whatever was the default sink
>>>> when it was started.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Storm Dragon
>>>> <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading through the docs, and
>>>>> things
>>>>> on the net, I found a way to set up a softvol control for it in 
>>>>> alsa, so
>>>>> when I adjust its volume, it only changes the volume for moc. 
>>>>> Everything
>>>>> went well, except, I can't adjust the volume from within the moc app,
>>>>> which
>>>>> should be possible because you can set the alsa device and mixer 
>>>>> in the
>>>>> ~/.moc/config file.
>>>>> It is using the right device, and amixer sset Mocmaster 50% sets the
>>>>> volume.
>>>>> It's just the in program controls that fail. When moc starts, it 
>>>>> gives
>>>>> this
>>>>> error:
>>>>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared 
>>>>> library
>>>>> /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_softvol.so
>>>>> This makes me think that either a plugin is missing from 
>>>>> alsa-plugins, or
>>>>> maybe moc is using an outdated way to change its volume. However, 
>>>>> if the
>>>>> alsa controls are set to their defaults, the volume works fine, 
>>>>> but it
>>>>> lowers the volume on the whole system.
>>>>> I did a pacman search for alsa softvol but it didn't return 
>>>>> anything. Is
>>>>> there anything I can install to fix this?
>>>>> Thanks for any help
>>>>> Storm
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