[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

[Christoph Gysin]

While it's generally not recommended, you *can* run pulseaudio also as
a system-wide instance.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Michał Zegan
<webczat_200 at poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
> this is very well known to me, and also quite logical. pulseaudio is a
> session process, espeakup is a system process. that whole thing actually
> means it will have exactly those problems.
>
> W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:32, Storm Dragon pisze:
>
>> Howdy,
>> No one has any clue what is stopping it. People have contacted the pulse
>> developers who say it's something with espeakup, but then some think it may
>> be speech-dispatcher's crappy pulse implimentation, which may be the case,
>> cause I think it will work if a dekstop infironment isn't loaded with orca.
>> No one has any clue how, or even what, to fix lol. So, I just avoid pulse.
>> Thanks
>> Storm
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 04:26:40PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>
>>> Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will
>>> be routed through pulseaudio.
>>>
>>> I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it.
>>> Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into
>>> another plugin?
>>>
>>> What is preventing speakup from using pulseaudio?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> No, I don't have pulseaudio installed. I actually can't use it because
>>>> it
>>>> will not allow me to use speakup in the console. Interestingly enough, I
>>>> read something that said moc doesn't have support for pulseaudio. So, I
>>>> must
>>>> have found outdated info.
>>>> Still, I wonder if we are missing a plugin in alsa itself?
>>>> thanks
>>>> Storm
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 03:09:38PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using pulseaudio? This works out of the box for me with
>>>>> pulseaudio. moc controls the volume of whatever was the default sink
>>>>> when it was started.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Storm Dragon
>>>>> <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>> I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading through the docs, and
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> on the net, I found a way to set up a softvol control for it in alsa,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> when I adjust its volume, it only changes the volume for moc.
>>>>>> Everything
>>>>>> went well, except, I can't adjust the volume from within the moc app,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> should be possible because you can set the alsa device and mixer in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ~/.moc/config file.
>>>>>> It is using the right device, and amixer sset Mocmaster 50% sets the
>>>>>> volume.
>>>>>> It's just the in program controls that fail. When moc starts, it gives
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> error:
>>>>>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared
>>>>>> library
>>>>>> /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_softvol.so
>>>>>> This makes me think that either a plugin is missing from alsa-plugins,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> maybe moc is using an outdated way to change its volume. However, if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> alsa controls are set to their defaults, the volume works fine, but it
>>>>>> lowers the volume on the whole system.
>>>>>> I did a pacman search for alsa softvol but it didn't return anything.
>>>>>> Is
>>>>>> there anything I can install to fix this?
>>>>>> Thanks for any help
>>>>>> Storm
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