[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

[Michał Zegan]

It is not recommended for, I believe, a good reason, including severe 
performance impact.

W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:39, Christoph Gysin pisze:
> While it's generally not recommended, you *can* run pulseaudio also as
> a system-wide instance.
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Michał Zegan
> <webczat_200 at poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
>> this is very well known to me, and also quite logical. pulseaudio is a
>> session process, espeakup is a system process. that whole thing actually
>> means it will have exactly those problems.
>>
>> W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:32, Storm Dragon pisze:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>> No one has any clue what is stopping it. People have contacted the pulse
>>> developers who say it's something with espeakup, but then some think it may
>>> be speech-dispatcher's crappy pulse implimentation, which may be the case,
>>> cause I think it will work if a dekstop infironment isn't loaded with orca.
>>> No one has any clue how, or even what, to fix lol. So, I just avoid pulse.
>>> Thanks
>>> Storm
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 04:26:40PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>> Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will
>>>> be routed through pulseaudio.
>>>>
>>>> I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it.
>>>> Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into
>>>> another plugin?
>>>>
>>>> What is preventing speakup from using pulseaudio?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> No, I don't have pulseaudio installed. I actually can't use it because
>>>>> it
>>>>> will not allow me to use speakup in the console. Interestingly enough, I
>>>>> read something that said moc doesn't have support for pulseaudio. So, I
>>>>> must
>>>>> have found outdated info.
>>>>> Still, I wonder if we are missing a plugin in alsa itself?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Storm
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 03:09:38PM +0300, Christoph Gysin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you using pulseaudio? This works out of the box for me with
>>>>>> pulseaudio. moc controls the volume of whatever was the default sink
>>>>>> when it was started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Storm Dragon
>>>>>> <stormdragon2976 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>> I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading through the docs, and
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> on the net, I found a way to set up a softvol control for it in alsa,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> when I adjust its volume, it only changes the volume for moc.
>>>>>>> Everything
>>>>>>> went well, except, I can't adjust the volume from within the moc app,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> should be possible because you can set the alsa device and mixer in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ~/.moc/config file.
>>>>>>> It is using the right device, and amixer sset Mocmaster 50% sets the
>>>>>>> volume.
>>>>>>> It's just the in program controls that fail. When moc starts, it gives
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> error:
>>>>>>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared
>>>>>>> library
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_softvol.so
>>>>>>> This makes me think that either a plugin is missing from alsa-plugins,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> maybe moc is using an outdated way to change its volume. However, if
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> alsa controls are set to their defaults, the volume works fine, but it
>>>>>>> lowers the volume on the whole system.
>>>>>>> I did a pacman search for alsa softvol but it didn't return anything.
>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>> there anything I can install to fix this?
>>>>>>> Thanks for any help
>>>>>>> Storm
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