[arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

[Jude DaShiell]

try the -o switch with wifi-menu is helpful and make sure you already have 
the dialog package installed before you run wifi-menu.  On Mon, 24 Jul 
2017, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote:

> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:54:02
> From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> To: "arch-general at archlinux.org" <arch-general at archlinux.org>
> Cc: Junayeed Ahnaf <nirjhor at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
> 
> I've installed ArchLinux on 3 desktops so far, and I've done them
> successfully, so I must have *RTFM* , I was just wondering why is it
> hard to configure wifi. Since I failed to configure wifi with
> wpa_supplicant. I'll try with wifi-menu today, and report progress.
>
>
> No need to be so aggressive man.
>
>
> On 07/24/2017 01:48 PM, Robert Wong via arch-general wrote:
>> A general Arch installation is nothing but a minimal set
>> of GNU/Linux system with a package manager, which
>> can be configured into anything. I'm not going any
>> further for you have made yourself clear that you
>> haven't done your research. Offensive as it can be, I'd
>> say *RTFM*.
>>
>> PS: It's apparently navie to say sth like Arch is nothing
>> but a desktop for archlinux.org itself runs on Arch Linux.
>>
>>
>> RW
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO
>> From: Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general
>> To: arch-general at archlinux.org
>> CC: Junayeed Ahnaf
>>
>> All fine and good but I don't see arch being installed on something
>> other than desktop/laptop. Of course there are niche cases as arch
>> server I do not doubt but how much of arch install base is traditional
>> desktop? I think it's rather high.
>>
>>
>> On 07/24/2017 01:30 PM, ITwrx.org wrote:
>>> On 07/24/2017 12:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote:
>>>> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO?
>>> Arch Linux is not like desktop focused distributions. Therefore, it's
>>> ISO does not come with "everything but the kitchen sink" where you have
>>> a turn-key desktop after running a GUI installer or install script. It
>>> has the base set of software you need to assemble what you need for your
>>> given install target.
>>>
>>>> Isn't it widely accepted as
>>>> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux?
>>> No, not in general like that. Network manager is primarily used for
>>> network management with desktop environments, most commonly Gnome, as
>>> the other respondent noted. Arch Linux is used in many different ways,
>>> not only for the desktop.
>>>
>>>> Is there any reason
>>>> for it not to be default?
>>> The defaults for the ISO would generally be the simpler options, and
>>> less likely to be something large with a lot of dependencies.  Also,
>>> minimalist ISOs were the norm rather than the exception in years past
>>> and for Reasons. They still are in some cases or with some distros.
>>> Also, there are not always application defaults with Arch Linux like you
>>> might have with a desktop distro. Arch is "DIY/build your own and choose
>>> your own defaults (for the most part)" type of distro.
>
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