[arch-releng] Install experience with v2011-02-25
Vincent Van Houtte
vvh at synergylaw.be
Mon Feb 28 12:56:36 EST 2011
Thank you for replying to my message.
> first off all, please compose new mails rather then replying to
> unrelated threads.
My bad - you are right.
> > * ERROR 1: I was trying to find the best way to 'manage the
> > filesystems', and I screwed up, at which point I hit 'cancel'. I
> > received an error 'ask_option $2 must be the title' and the installer
> > exited.
> Do you have the aif logfile? Or the output of the report-issues script?
> Any specific reason you did not run report-issues? (it should inform
> you about that through the MOTD, is it not visible - enough - ?)
I think I have seen it, but the fact that I did not think of it a few
moments later, I guess I didn't take it in. I'll try to reproduce and
then run report-issues.
> > * ERROR 2: I tried once to use BTRFS instead of ext4, but it never
> > allowed me to chose a mountpoint (BUT: as I continued trying, and used
> > LVM - infra - I noticed that new entries were added to the list of
> > filesystems to manage, so it could be that I did not notice the same
> > behaviour when trying out BTRFS - if that is the case, one might chose
> > to add a blank line before the new entries and after the /dev/sdxy's)
OK - no problem: I plan on using ext4 anyway.
> > * ERROR 3: Then I used ext4 on my sdb3, checking the option to format
> > the partition with aif, but that failed. exiting the installer and
> > preparing/formatting the disk manually, worked. Using aif only to set
> > the mountpoints worked.
> I really need to know the specific error to be able to fix that. maybe
> the device was in use because of something you were doing? (or because
> aif did something with it in a previous run, in which case you should
> have rollbacked - unless aif crashed, of course)
Nope, I forgot to add to my message that rolling back worked just fine.
There was no real 'error' and aif did not crash - it just trew an error
about being unable to create an ext4 filesystem. I'll try to reproduce
it this evening and see if I can get an exact warning/error.
> > * ERROR 4: Next was creating an LVM on the array. It was a simple
> > LVM: 1 primary volume, 1 logical volume and formatted as ext4. I got
> > an error on 'making lvm-lv': 'process_filesystem needs a partition as
> > $1'. It occurred to me later that I might have entered a
> > partition-size that was larger than the available amount, but the
> > installer did not warn me about that and just exited. I also found it
> > hard to use the LVM-portion of aif.
Aah, my post-factum thought was probably correct. I'll try to do this
correct tonight and report back. I noticed that there is no option to
use the entire disk for an LV, which might be a handy feature.
> > I noticed that the installer report said that 'installing bootloader'
> > had finished succesfully.
> maybe you selected the entry in the menu and then said "i will install
> my own", aif counts that as success.
Yes, that's what happened. Maybe I could suggest to change the
'succes'-message to 'manual installation'? It's not a bug per se, only
something I noticed.
> > I think I can live with most of this, but any hints on how to install
> > grub2 with aif (or after aif) would be much appreciated.
> grub2 is not supported, and I have no idea how it works. we might
> support it if someone can contribute simple code to make it work.
> we will probably support syslinux though, work on that is in progress
> (as you can see on this list)
Yes, I have seen the patches. In the Ubuntu help docs I found an extra
argument to grub-install (<grub2) named --root-directory, which might
help installing grub2 for the newly installed system that is mounted
> > The wiki on
> > 'SSD' also told me that I had to make a 1 MiB bios-partition at the
> > beginning of my SSD, but the wiki never says what you should do with
> > that partition...
> yeah well.. it's up to the community to maintain the wiki. I only take
> care of the official installation guide (and even there I expect input
> from the community)
I was not blaming you or anyone else - it's just something I don't know,
and kinda hoped someone on this list might shed some light upon (after
all, there are devs around in this channel writing code around
No, thank YOU for your time and efforts. I can only hope that a report
like this one is helpful and not just taking more of your time. That's
why I will run the same routine this evening and provide 'report-issues'
where I can...
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