[aur-general] Voting for djszapi results

Xavier shiningxc at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 15:00:07 EST 2009


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Judging by the level of maturity and calmness shown in this thread, I
> think he really has improved since last time. For what it's worth, I
> voted to abstain, as I hadn't had much interaction with him either
> way. Perhaps next time around I'll change that. I can definitely see
> progress here.
>

This is not really my business as I am not a TU, and haven't been
involved with Laszlo on any packaging problems or AUR2 development..
but as I might be the biggest Laszlo's hater, I might have a word to
say. Also it could look weird that someone gets rejected twice and no one
has anything really bad to say, so hopefully I am going to fix that :)

However, I have to admit I have big troubles staying calm and mature
every time I was involved with him. But that's the whole problem.

I could write a book about all the times Laszlo pissed me off.
Probably 99% of that was about pacman development. But Loui's
experience with him (probably for AUR) was apparently not much better,
at least back then :
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2009-July/006081.html

By the way, this is not really a bad first impression. Laszlo has been
active on pacman bug tracker or mailing list between June and
November. It started quite bad, it became worse and worse, it was
still very bad at the end.

It would really take me a lot of times to gather all the WTFs, so what
about the last one in date ?
I recently got this link :
http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05895.html
And here is my sumup (^W interpretation) :
- he submits a bunch of minor/trivial pacman patches to frugalware in
October and November
- he spams/offends Miklos about getting push access to the repository
(just for the record and comparison : in Archlinux world, there are
several competent long-time contributors, and only Dan has push access
to the master git repo)
- he adds himself on top of the second list of authors, for his
excellent contributions :
http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05892.html
- he wants his name to appear on every manpage, even the ones he has
nothing to do :
http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05902.html
- after that, he disappears

Note that I count this as one story. I have 20 others to tell about
what happened in the archlinux/pacman world. But the bug tracker has
the whole history, and the mailing list archives are all publicly
available, so no reason I should waste my time more.
This might be my main problem with him : he's a big time waster. He is
also "extremely annoying" and " doesn't understand boundaries when it
comes to communication" , as Loui very correctly observed back then.

It is still possible that he has only good intentions, and all these
problems are only caused by a language/cultural gap , or a maturity
problem. Who knows.


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