[aur-general] Voting for djszapi results

enderst enderst at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 15:35:56 EST 2009

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Xavier <shiningxc at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch at gmail.com<daenyth%2Barch at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Judging by the level of maturity and calmness shown in this thread, I
> > think he really has improved since last time. For what it's worth, I
> > voted to abstain, as I hadn't had much interaction with him either
> > way. Perhaps next time around I'll change that. I can definitely see
> > progress here.
> >
> This is not really my business as I am not a TU, and haven't been
> involved with Laszlo on any packaging problems or AUR2 development..
> but as I might be the biggest Laszlo's hater, I might have a word to
> say. Also it could look weird that someone gets rejected twice and no one
> has anything really bad to say, so hopefully I am going to fix that :)
> However, I have to admit I have big troubles staying calm and mature
> every time I was involved with him. But that's the whole problem.
> I could write a book about all the times Laszlo pissed me off.
> Probably 99% of that was about pacman development. But Loui's
> experience with him (probably for AUR) was apparently not much better,
> at least back then :
> http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2009-July/006081.html
> By the way, this is not really a bad first impression. Laszlo has been
> active on pacman bug tracker or mailing list between June and
> November. It started quite bad, it became worse and worse, it was
> still very bad at the end.
> It would really take me a lot of times to gather all the WTFs, so what
> about the last one in date ?
> I recently got this link :
> http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05895.html
> And here is my sumup (^W interpretation) :
> - he submits a bunch of minor/trivial pacman patches to frugalware in
> October and November
> - he spams/offends Miklos about getting push access to the repository
> (just for the record and comparison : in Archlinux world, there are
> several competent long-time contributors, and only Dan has push access
> to the master git repo)
> - he adds himself on top of the second list of authors, for his
> excellent contributions :
> http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05892.html
> - he wants his name to appear on every manpage, even the ones he has
> nothing to do :
> http://www.mail-archive.com/frugalware-devel@frugalware.org/msg05902.html
> - after that, he disappears
> Note that I count this as one story. I have 20 others to tell about
> what happened in the archlinux/pacman world. But the bug tracker has
> the whole history, and the mailing list archives are all publicly
> available, so no reason I should waste my time more.
> This might be my main problem with him : he's a big time waster. He is
> also "extremely annoying" and " doesn't understand boundaries when it
> comes to communication" , as Loui very correctly observed back then.
> It is still possible that he has only good intentions, and all these
> problems are only caused by a language/cultural gap , or a maturity
> problem. Who knows.

A simple search for vim in the aur and look at the PKGBUILD files of the
orphaned pkgs says a lot.
Sorry to jump in.


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