August 2005 - Arch-projects - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-projects] A little project of mine...
by Joao Estevao 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Hello, I don't know if you guys check the forums but I've been coding a pacman front end in pygtk, and I'd like to make this announcement here as well. It's called guzuta, after the orange monster in Pac-Man game, and here is the project homepage http://guzuta.berlios.de/ and a PKGBUILD can be found here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=1800 -- A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. -- Rabindranath Tagore (1861-1941)

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[arch-projects] Distro Talk idea
by Jason Chu 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

Something that Arch can always benefit from is knowledge of how other distros do things. We don't always make the same choices as the other distros, but at least being informed about other methods and their consequences helps to find a better solution in the end. I'm thinking that a whole site dedicated to intelligent discussion about distros would be really cool and helpful. A couple of guidelines would have to be in place: 1) People get LARTed very quickly -- have to nip the distro war mind-set in the bud. 2) Every distro is equal (much like linguists consider every language to be equal). Just because one distro does something different doesn't mean that it's bad. You have to look at the relative merits of everything. 3) The discussions are for the betterment of all distros, all (well thought out) opinions are valid for their own reasons. No distro should be excluded from the discussion. Some of the technologies we figured was an article system like osnews, where intelligent articles about tools, methodologies, etc for a given distro can posted, with comments. Also a general discussion mailing list. Both would (hopefully) be community taggable ;o) It'd be the first place to have something like that. It'd be cool if people could request articles about certain topics to help expand their own knowledge (especially to gain insight into a problem they're having right now). This site would really only be for smart people who have good ideas to offer to the distro development community. Anyone else need not apply ;) What do you guys think? Good idea? Not? Jason -- If you understand, things are just as they are. If you do not understand, things are just as they are.

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Fwd: Re: [arch-projects] Keeping the list alive!
by Andy Roberts 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

I'll forward this for Rasat as he only sent it to me but I expect it was for all. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [arch-projects] Keeping the list alive! Date: Monday 01 Aug 2005 15:45 From: Rasatmakananda <rasat(a)pacific.net.sg> To: Andy Roberts <mail(a)andy-roberts.net> On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:19 +0000, Andy Roberts wrote: > > .... the selection of > > language is also part of Arch's concept of KISS. > > http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=13576 > > This is surely from a programmers perspective, i.e., languages that make > programming easy. I really don't think that language choice was part of > Judd's vision, since he's a C programmer. Not Judd's vision but somehow the choice of C and Bash were the right languages making Arch an ideal distro where users can easily hack and configure as they want. This is the main factor in Arch. Not only a product to use but anyone who is interested can easily develop on their own or join in Arch development. What I am trying to say here, most of the Archers are "devs" in one way or other, or learn to become because of user contributions. Therefore loves in products/projects what is simple in performance and easy to help/hack for further improvement. If one sided, the language is too troublesome to read/hack, they may still use the product but will not show interest. The Arch Way: "Don't let configure tools / GUIs control the system but be controlled by the user". In my recent understanding, this principle applies not only, not to be controlled in configure matters but also not to be depended what tools offer. A tool should be hackable to be able to makes things as user want..... not what the tool want (smile). Rasat

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[arch-projects] Keeping the list alive!
by Andy Roberts 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi all, I thought I'd give everyone a nudge to chip in with updates on their current project(s). This month, I have been mostly writing Jacman. (Fast show, anyone?!) So, c'mon guys, be honest... has it been worth my effort? Do you think people actually will use it? Does ArchLinux *need* such a utility? Or did I pick the wrong language? Bearing in mind that Archie won't use Jacman due to the size of the JRE. It's not that I haven't had lots of positive feedback. And even if no-one else liked it, it's certainly been good for practising Java GUI programming and how to interact with native commands. I'm just wondering what you guys think. What are you lot up to? Andy

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