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[arch-projects] Arch Linux Java Packaging
by Dusty Phillips 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Hey folks, I'd like some peer review on this document before releasing it to the hungry masses to tear apart and unconstructively criticize... http://www.buchuki.com/misc/archjava.html Jason: Could you post a link to this on the Developer Mailing list? They can direct any questions to me or discuss it amoungst themselves first. ;-) For those who don't like to randomly click links in an e-mail without knowing what they are, this is a first draft of a document I wrote that defines a new standard for packaging java applications. I'm looking for feedback and potential problems so they can be adjust or changed within the document. Dusty

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[arch-projects] window manager thought
by Dusty Phillips 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

This is sorta for Phrakture -- are you still working on a modular window manager based on litestep, or did you give that project over? but its also for anybody who's interested -- I know quite a few people are looking for 'the perfect window manager' and believe that such a program does not yet exist. I know about virtual workspaces and multiple desktops. I also recall Enlightenment allowing desktops bigger than the screen, but IIRC, you could only see a full screen at a time. What I'm thinking of now, is that often I need two windows open that are, by necessity, bigger than half the width of the screen, and in which I need to refer between the two often -- a browser and a text editor are a good example when you're coding HTML (This headache came to me at work, where I do web design and have to use WindowsXP and the horrid default window manager that comes with it... hmm, maybe I better try litestep. Man that would be cool, shock the hell out of my boss... oh yeah, this is windows, don't worry about it... hehehe). The way I generally work is to have the two windows overlap as little as possible; one upper left and one lower right, with an overlapping corner near centre screen, for example. I switch between the two as needed, and it seems like 2/3 of the time, information I need to read from one window is obliterated by the window that I am currently working in. Ah, one way around this is to use the composite extension... But, I'm wondering if anybody knows about a Window manager that would allow me to have the two windows side by side, not overlapping, but with part of both windows off the side of the screen. As I move my mouse to the right of the screen, it automatically moves the whole viewport to the right so I can focus that window. This is basically an extension of an 'infinite window manager' idea I had a while ago in which windows would never overlap (sort of like a tiling window manager, but they wouldn't necessarily have to be tiles; they would be floating windows that could be dragged anywhere except over top of other windows.) and the screen acts as a "viewport" into the infinitely sized desktop. You can move the mouse over windows. Now I'm even thinking that you could have the mouse always centred in the screen, and moving the mouse would actually move the entire viewport... would be hard to get used to, but could be interesting. I'm always bad for giving way too much background information like that. My questions are, does anybody know if any window managers that implement some of these ideas exist, and/or, would anybody (ie: phrakture) like to create something that could do this (ie: as a litestep module)? Oh, and does anybody think it would be a good or bad idea? Dusty

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[arch-projects] mBira project
by cactus 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Phrakture and I have been working on a binary repository aggregator, for personal user repositories. http://mbira.cactuswax.net Goals: 1) To help reduce the disjoint nature of personal repositories. 2) To make searching for binary packages easier. 3) Replace the PRIMAL utility 4) Potentially interface with he AUR when possible. It should be noted that mBira is not an attempt to replace the AUR. It was meant to fill the gap between the binary packages that make it into the AUR community repo, and those packages held only by users. Binary package information is culled from a personal repository, not uploaded to mbira. pkgbuilds are not dealt with in mbira, as that is what the AUR is for. Comments and questions are welcome, either here, or in the mbira forums. -- -------------------------- Bender: It was horrible! A nightmare! Fry: What happened? Bender: I dreamt I was in a place of 0's and 1's and all of a sudden... I saw a two *whimper* Fry: It's ok Bender, don't worry. There's no such thing as 2's.

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[arch-projects] to you vim users
by Aaron Griffin 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=12726 This util/plugin is *the* greatest thing to happen to me in a week or so (is that sad?) Check it out...

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[arch-projects] Opinion on a project of mine
by Martin Lefebvre 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Hey guys Since this is a "projects" list, I decided to ask for eberybody's opinion regarding a project I would like to start... I have recently installed xmms2, and I am actually disappointed with the existing GUI clients, so I have decided to make my own... I am just not sure which language to use... I know python, a bit of C/C++, etc... Which one would you use for a project like that? (I can already hear someone screaming "JAVA!!!") :P -- Martin Lefebvre eMail: dadexter(a)gmail.com WWW: https://sigterm.homeunix.com Registered Linux User #349269 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GAT dpu s:-- a- C+++ UL++++ P-- L++++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M-- V-- PS PE Y PGP-- t+++ 5- X R- tv++ b+ DI-- D+ G-- e h++ r++ y** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

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[arch-projects] Arch AMD64 Port
by Dusty Phillips 27 May '05

27 May '05

Is anybody on this list associated with the project to port Arch packages to AMD 64? Or does anybody know who to contact about it? I know there's a forum topic for it, but I was hoping there might be a mailing list or project page somewhere. Or is it generally discussed on the AL mailing list, which I don't subscribe to? Or is it dead? I've got an AMD 64 machine sitting beside my desk seducing me into taking it home... countdown until 5:00 Alberta time begins now... :-D Dusty

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[arch-projects] Dead list
by Dusty Phillips 24 May '05

24 May '05

I can't believe I go offline for a few weeks and you guys let this list die. Shame on all of you. I thought I was the only one that wasn't working on any projects lately. Well, not true. I'm working on a website, and I'm getting paid to do it... I haven't been working on any interesting projects besides ordering a new computer. I'm going to be joining the AMD64 porting project sometime. ;-) And until then, Ensmer is on hold. What is everybody else doing lately, eh? On a more personal note, I have been accepted into the graduate program at York University. Apparently I'm going to be able to play with some cutting edge VR equipment. I hope that means I can take Ensmer into another dimension, as it were. Should be interesting times... only less time for Arch now, between having a summer job and a 5 term full time student program ahead of me. :( Dusty

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[arch-projects] New ensmer development release
by Dusty Phillips 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

In case anybody's interested, I've released a new development version of Ensmer. It doesn't include any screenshots, since it looks pretty much the same as before, but there's quite a few internal changes. Here's the announcement: https://ensmer.dev.java.net/servlets/NewsItemView?newsItemID=2151 Another note, this release uses the build.groovy format I described earlier, and also uses groovy unit tests. The way that I did this may be kind of interesting to Java developers, as it is a lot cleaner than any other groovy build/test mechanism I have been able to find on the web. It is also cleaner than an ant build mechanism. I'm not absolutely certain where I want to take Ensmer right now. I think I'll probably start making some modifications to EnsmerMail next, since the stable release won't work at all with the development release of the core. I may focus on EnsmerMail for a while to make it genuinely useable... Dusty

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[arch-projects] Groovy ant-builder
by Dusty Phillips 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

A while ago I posted my interest in using Groovy instead of ant for scripting my build file. I spent the last couple of days working on this. I thought people might be interested in my results. Summarizing my previous post, I don't like ant because I don't like XML. I think that's about all the important points... I have two comparable build files, though they do not perform identically. Here's a comparison of them based on size: dusty:~ $ wc build.groovy build.xml 138 319 3630 build.groovy 158 584 6262 build.xml The xml build file has 20 more lines, and almost twice as many words and characters as the groovy build file. In other words, a groovy build file is less typing, although you would tend to press the enter key about an equal number of times. Here are the two files, for visual comparison (NOTE: I removed some targets from the xml file that haven't been implemented in the groovy script yet, but they still aren't identical): http://www.buchuki.com/misc/build.xml http://www.buchuki.com/misc/build.groovy Unfortunately, firefox won't syntax-highlight the groovy file. Aside from that, which one do people think is easier to read? I personally prefer the groovy markup, but maybe I'm strange. The main observation I found coding the groovy file is that its much easier to reduce duplication of code in a groovy script (just toss it in a method) than in an ant file (put it in a target and depend on it, sometimes conditionally). Also, its easier to group properties together into maps and having generic code manipulate them. This reduces both the number of total properties and the total amount of code. Most articles I've read have been anti-groovy scripting, and I doubt this would become a standard either within the Java community (ie: where ant currently dominates) or across all projects that need build management. I just find it interesting, and I must confess that I prefer it. Comments? Dusty

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[arch-projects] xenophile status
by Jason Chu 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

I bashed out a quick xenomail daemon yesterday. It is notified over jabber-rpc by a second script (it's not the best notification system and will be updated later) telling you whenever a new email comes in. So far there exists xenonote, xenoremind, and xenomail. I'm not sure what my friend has working daemon wise. I know he was working on shell directory detection: a sort of directory sensitive notification daemon. We'd like to make a release Mayish, so if anyone is interested in trying it out feel free to get the code from svn here: https://xentac.net/svn/xenophile/trunk/ If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. I'm trying to drum up interest here people ;P Jason -- If you understand, things are just as they are. If you do not understand, things are just as they are.

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