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Re: [arch-dev-public] [initscripts][RFC] deprecating TIMEZONE from rc.conf
by Andreas Radke 17 May '11

17 May '11

Am Mon, 16 May 2011 20:28:17 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no>: > I cc'ed the GNOME/KDE/XFCE maintainers as I would be interested to > hear if their timezone tools work well with rc.conf (I think not, but > I might have missed something). I also cc'ed aif and archboot > maintainers. Please forward if you know of anyone who maintains > relevant packages that I left out. Xfce doesn't have any tool to change/select the timezone. -Andy

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[arch-dev-public] [signoff] attr 2.4.46-1, acl 2.2.51-1
by Thomas Bächler 17 May '11

17 May '11

Upstream updates of attr and acl, please sign off.

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[arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.8-1
by Allan McRae 16 May '11

16 May '11

Upstream NEWS: * Noteworthy changes in release 2.8 (2011-05-13) [stable] ** Bug fixes echo c|grep '[c]' would fail for any c in 0x80..0xff, and in many locales. E.g., printf '\xff\n'|grep "$(printf '[\xff]')" || echo FAIL would print FAIL rather than the required matching line. [bug introduced in grep-2.6] grep's interpretation of range expression is now more consistent with that of other tools. [bug present since multi-byte character set support was introduced in 2.5.2, though the steps needed to reproduce it changed in grep-2.6] grep erroneously returned with exit status 1 on some memory allocation failure. [bug present since "the beginning"] Signoff both, Allan

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Re: [arch-dev-public] [initscripts][RFC] deprecating TIMEZONE from rc.conf
by Ionut Biru 16 May '11

16 May '11

On 05/16/2011 09:28 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi guys, > hi, i'm forwarding this on our arch-dev-public ml for higher audience > I think the TIMEZONE variable in rc.conf is unnecessary and it causes > some problems with other (especially GUI) tools. I'd like to hear what > you think about deprecating it. We will still keep the support for it > in initscripts, but we will suggest (in the standard rc.conf) to not > set it. It will then be up to the maintainer of our installer(s) and > documentation to adopt (or not) this suggestion. > i found that deprecating this option will make the set up a bit more complicated and i don't really want to copy/symlink or run tzselect manually. > I cc'ed the GNOME/KDE/XFCE maintainers as I would be interested to > hear if their timezone tools work well with rc.conf (I think not, but > I might have missed something). I also cc'ed aif and archboot > maintainers. Please forward if you know of anyone who maintains > relevant packages that I left out. > gnome is perfectly capable to do this, with or without asking an administrator password. For the later we need some adjustment to polkit rules. we shouldn't focus only on gnome/kde/xfce since they are fully featured desktop environments and have tools for setting the date/time/. What about minimal setups, they don't have any tools like that and they need to do it manually and is an additional step that is not needed in my opinion. > > From fd5fd34f8a593710483a204d7a7984f89385e3fa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Tom Gundersen<teg(a)jklm.no> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:17:48 +0200 > Subject: [PATCH] timezone: deprecate the TIMEZONE variable > > Setting the TIMEZONE in rc.conf is a bad idea for several reasons: > > * it requires a reboot before taking effect, for people changing timezone's > frequently (this is common if you travel a lot, especially annoying if you > have several stop overs in different timezones and want your laptop's clock > to be correct) > * it is non-standard, so advice/guides that apply to other distro's will not > apply to arch > * it is non-standard, so gui tools like the ones found in KDE/GNOME will not > be aware of the setting in rc.conf, and whatever change they do will be > overwritten on next boot. > * it is one of the few remaining blockers for ro /etc support in initscripts > > For these reasons (and possibly more), we deprecate TIMEZONE from rc.conf, > and advice users and developers to clear it and set /etc/localtime directly. > However, we do not remove the implementation from the scripts, so the timezone > is still set during boot/shutdown if the variable is set. > > Signed-off-by: Tom Gundersen<teg(a)jklm.no> > --- > rc.conf | 7 ++++--- > 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/rc.conf b/rc.conf > index 89ea27e..0fb6472 100644 > --- a/rc.conf > +++ b/rc.conf > @@ -8,11 +8,13 @@ > # > # LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command > # DAEMON_LOCALE: If set to 'yes', use $LOCALE as the locale during daemon > # startup and during the boot process. If set to 'no', the C locale is used. > # HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime", any other value will result > # in the hardware clock being left untouched (useful for virtualization) > # Note: Using "localtime" is discouraged. > -# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo > +# TIMEZONE: (DEPRECATED) copy timezone from /usr/share/zoneinfo to > +# /etc/localtime instead > # KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps > # CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US) > # CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans > @@ -22,7 +24,6 @@ > LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8" > DAEMON_LOCALE="no" > HARDWARECLOCK="UTC" > -TIMEZONE="Canada/Pacific" > KEYMAP="us" > CONSOLEFONT= > CONSOLEMAP= -- Ionuț

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[arch-dev-public] [signoff] util-linux-2.19.1-2
by Tobias Powalowski 16 May '11

16 May '11

Hi minor patch added which fixed mount -a segfault. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-dev-public] [signoff] kbd-1.15.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 16 May '11

16 May '11

o Build system: - Drop klibc support. o Programs: - kbdinfo: New utility to obtain information about console. - setvtrgb: New utility to set the virtual terminal RGB colors. - loadkeys: Add LOADKEYS_KEYMAP_PATH env variable. - loadkeys: Fix some memory leaks. - loadkeys: Do not set prefer_unicode for iso-8859-1. - loadkeys -a: Switch to ASCII mode. - loadkeys: Fix "compose as usual" for Unicode diacritics (Michael Schutte). o Keymaps: - Add dvorak-ru keymap. o Fonts: - Add LatGrkCyr fonts. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-dev-public] testing/curl depends on community/libssh2
by Thomas Bächler 16 May '11

16 May '11

I just noticed that a system update pulls in 'libssh2' (as opposed to 'libssh', which I already had installed). 'libssh2' is in community, this should be moved to extra - or we should not depend on it, I don't know.

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[arch-dev-public] [signoff] mkinitcpio 0.6.12-1
by Thomas Bächler 15 May '11

15 May '11

"Upstream" update (haha), please sign off. Shortlog: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (3): Drop deprecated /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug Trigger udev events like in initscripts Cleanly stop udev >= 168 as recommended by upstream. Thomas Bächler (2): Improve comments in mkinitcpio.conf Release mkinitcpio 0.6.12 Tom Gundersen (1): /run: restrict write access to root

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[arch-dev-public] Anyone want to maintain acpid?
by Thomas Bächler 15 May '11

15 May '11

For some reason, I am assigned as a maintainer for acpid, but I never actually touched it. It is out of date and has a number of bugs. Any takers?

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[arch-dev-public] keyutils moved to [core]
by Tobias Powalowski 15 May '11

15 May '11

Hi guys, https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24282 FTP install is broken with krb5. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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