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[arch-general] System terribly slow
by riveravaldez 27 Oct '25

27 Oct '25

Hi, I'm looking for some advice trying to pinpoint why or where my system has becoming almost unusable slow. Searching the web I've found some hints but nothing precise enough. Maybe it's a failing HDD, but I'm first posting what I have until now in the hope someone can give some advice. Superficial symptoms are a general slowness. I'm using just IceWM and `startx` to initialize the GUI, and even logging into my account previous to that takes almost a minute to get done. Then any application I launch takes minutes to just start (from IceWM to firefox, from qtox to pcmanfm or geany, etc.). Even navigate the folders tree with pcmanfm takes 10 or more seconds just to show any folder content... Hope some of this helps: $ sudo journalctl -b -exp3 -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 19:50:29 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Asking for cache data failed dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: cannot open directory '/home/dell/Software/VMs/TrisquelMini8': No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: error interno: Falló al iniciar automáticamente el grupo de almacenamiento 'TrisquelMini8': cannot open directory '/home/dell/Softwar> dic 03 00:50:41 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:57 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:56:40 arch systemd[1]: Failed to start Disk Manager. Subject: A start job for unit udisks2.service has failed Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit udisks2.service has finished with a failure. The job identifier is 1072 and the job result is failed. $ systemctl --state=failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION 0 loaded units listed. $ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 11.038s (kernel) + 1min 31.352s (userspace) = 1min 42.391s graphical.target reached after 1min 31.352s in userspace $ systemd-analyze blame 37.946s polkit.service 29.248s dev-sda1.device 28.827s systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 24.692s udisks2.service 15.936s systemd-journal-flush.service 14.228s systemd-hwdb-update.service 13.930s ldconfig.service 13.502s upower.service 12.881s ufw.service 8.830s user(a)1000.service 7.556s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 7.280s avahi-daemon.service 7.275s bluetooth.service 7.262s iwd.service 6.067s systemd-logind.service 6.058s systemd-machined.service 5.825s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 5.123s systemd-sysusers.service 4.569s systemd-udevd.service 4.511s systemd-resolved.service 4.281s systemd-networkd.service 3.724s systemd-journal-catalog-update.service 3.415s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1d72b82c\x2d9c58\x2d4f57\x2d97a3\x2de29ff35a5632.service 2.959s systemd-modules-load.service 2.557s lm_sensors.service 2.503s systemd-random-seed.service 2.389s systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service 1.983s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-84c91978\x2da09c\x2d4087\x2db60d\x2d86730d142f63.swap 1.967s systemd-backlight@leds:dell::kbd_backlight.service 1.563s systemd-timesyncd.service 1.457s systemd-update-utmp.service 1.287s systemd-udev-trigger.service 1.278s systemd-rfkill.service 1.219s alsa-restore.service 1.164s systemd-sysctl.service (...) $ systemctl status polkit.service ● polkit.service - Authorization Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service; static) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:50:28 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:polkit(8) Main PID: 613 (polkitd) Tasks: 12 (limit: 6993) Memory: 18.9M CPU: 1.032s CGroup: /system.slice/polkit.service └─613 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug dic 03 00:49:50 arch systemd[1]: Starting Authorization Manager... dic 03 00:50:05 arch polkitd[613]: Started polkitd version 0.120 dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 6 rules dic 03 00:50:28 arch systemd[1]: Started Authorization Manager. dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 on the system bus $ systemctl status dev-sda1.device ● dev-sda1.device - Hitachi_HTS545025B9A300 ROOT Follows: unit currently follows state of sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.device Loaded: loaded Active: active (plugged) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:49:12 -03; 19h ago Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda/sda1 Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. $ systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service ○ systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2021-12-03 01:03:52 -03; 19h ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer Docs: man:tmpfiles.d(5) man:systemd-tmpfiles(8) Process: 1473 ExecStart=systemd-tmpfiles --clean (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1473 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 185ms dic 03 01:03:23 arch systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. $ systemctl status udisks2.service ● udisks2.service - Disk Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:59:51 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:udisks(8) Main PID: 1129 (udisksd) Tasks: 5 (limit: 6993) Memory: 3.2M CPU: 23.045s CGroup: /system.slice/udisks2.service └─1129 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd dic 03 00:59:26 arch systemd[1]: Starting Disk Manager... dic 03 00:59:26 arch udisksd[1129]: udisks daemon version 2.9.4 starting dic 03 00:59:51 arch systemd[1]: Started Disk Manager. dic 03 00:59:54 arch udisksd[1129]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus $ systemctl status systemd-journal-flush.service ● systemd-journal-flush.service - Flush Journal to Persistent Storage Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:59 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Process: 283 ExecStart=journalctl --flush (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 283 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 15ms dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd[1]: Starting Flush Journal to Persistent Storage... dic 03 00:48:59 arch systemd[1]: Finished Flush Journal to Persistent Storage. $ systemctl status systemd-hwdb-update.service ● systemd-hwdb-update.service - Rebuild Hardware Database Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-hwdb-update.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:57 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:hwdb(7) man:systemd-hwdb(8) Process: 279 ExecStart=systemd-hwdb update (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 279 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 1.746s dic 03 00:48:57 arch systemd[1]: Finished Rebuild Hardware Database. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-journald.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:49:18 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Journal started dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 8.0M, max 292.4M, 284.4M free. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: Time spent on flushing to /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c is 7.561088s for 798 entries. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: System Journal (/var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 16.0M, max 2.4G, 2.4G free. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\\x2duuid-1d72b82c\\x2d9c58\\x2d4f57\\x2d97a3\\x2de29ff35a5632.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:52:36 -03. -- dic 03 00:49:18 arch systemd[1]: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632... dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd-fsck[485]: HOME: limpio, 208781/13107200 ficheros, 37165716/52398592 bloques dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632. $ journalctl --verify PASS: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/user-1000.journal 3b84d8: Data object's entry array not sorted File corruption detected at /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal:915878 (of 16777216 bytes, 56%). FAIL: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal (Mensaje erróneo) $ journalctl --disk-usage Archived and active journals take up 24.0M in the file system. Maybe it's pertinent to mention that I've just cleaned up /var/log/journal to rule out storage issues. Any help will be most welcome. Thanks a lot in advance.

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the archlinux torrent
by Jude DaShiell 03 Jul '24

03 Jul '24

Having downloaded the torrent and burned the iso to a dvd I verified the torrent using sha256sum but apparently that wasn't enough since the installation broke part of the way through which means I ought to have used the gpg verification that is available online. What is done with those asc files to verify a download? I used lftp with no options on the command line and maybe that was also a mistake on my part. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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Why does fail2ban-client show no jails?
by David C. Rankin 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

All, I've configured fail2ban following the wiki, it is running, and I've enabled jails in /etc/fail2ban/jails.local, but fail2ban-client status shows no jails. The jails.local is: [DEFAULT] destemail = david(a)domain.tld sender = david(a)domain.tld # to ban & send an e-mail with whois report to the destemail. #action = %(action_mw)s # same as action_mw but also send relevant log lines action = %(action_mwl)s [DEFAULT] bantime = 2d [sshd] enable = true port = ssh,6661 [dovecot] enable = true [postfix] enable = true [smtpd] enable = true Running fail2ban-client status shows: # fail2ban-client status Status |- Number of jail: 0 `- Jail list: Reading other fail2ban configuration howtos, suggest I should be seeing the enabled jails. Is there something else I need to do on Arch? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: makepkg
by Lone_Wolf 28 Nov '23

28 Nov '23

On 23-11-2023 17:44, Jude DaShiell wrote: > cc main.o buffers.o sendmail.o fetchmail.o html.o html-tags.o format.o > stringfile.o ebrc.o msg-strings.o http.o isup.o css.o startwindow.o > dbops.o dbodbc.o jseng-quick.o ../../quickjs/libquickjs.a -ldl -latomic > -s -lcurl -lodbc -lpcre2-8 -lreadline -lssl -lcrypto -lpthread -lm > -lssl -lcrypto -o edbrowse > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find ../../quickjs/libquickjs.a: No such file or > directory Two more changes are needed: A. edbrowse relies on *.a files (static librairies) to use quickjs . makepkg by default removes them since a few years ago. edit the quickjs PKGBUILD, increase pkgrel and change the options= line in it so it reads options=(!strip staticlibs) rebuild & reinstall quickjs B. the environment vars used by edbrowse make have been changed by upstream. replace QUICKJS_DIR="/usr/lib/quickjs/" make with QUICKJS_INCLUDE="/usr/include/quickjs" QUICKJS_LIB="/usr/lib/quickjs/" make The package builds for me that way, but I haven't ran the software. Lone_Wolf

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WiFi regulatory domain changes between reboots
by Sadeep Madurange 28 Nov '23

28 Nov '23

Greetings all, Recently I had an issue with connecting a 5GHz AP, and as Jaron correctly pointed out, the issue was with the regdomain. The problem I'm having now is the regdomain spontaneously changes between reboots. I'm in Singapore and I bought the laptop in Singapore. I am certain that my hardware/firmware supports 5GHz networks. Following Arch Wiki [1], I installed the wireless-regdb package and uncommented WIRELESS_REGDOM="SG" line in the /etc/conf.d/wireless-regdom file. Things were working fine for a couple days after I made the changes. But then, sometimes, when I reboot, I see the regdomain changes to ID (I guess for Indonesia). I checked that ID is commented out in /etc/conf.d/wireless-regdom. I recorded the output of "iw reg get" both when it is working and when it is not. When it's working, the output is: global country 00: DFS-UNSET (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 20), (N/A) (2457 - 2482 @ 20), (6, 20), (N/A), AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (6, 20), (N/A), NO-OFDM, PASSIVE-SCAN (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (6, 20), (N/A), AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (6, 20), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (5490 - 5730 @ 160), (6, 20), (0 ms), DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (6, 20), (N/A), PASSIVE-SCAN (57240 - 63720 @ 2160), (N/A, 0), (N/A) phy#0 (self-managed) country SG: DFS-UNSET (2402 - 2437 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (2422 - 2462 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (2447 - 2482 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (5170 - 5190 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5190 - 5210 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5210 - 5230 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5230 - 5250 @ 160), (6, 22), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5250 - 5270 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5270 - 5290 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5290 - 5310 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5310 - 5330 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5490 - 5510 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5510 - 5530 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5530 - 5550 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5550 - 5570 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5570 - 5590 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5590 - 5610 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5610 - 5630 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5630 - 5650 @ 160), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5650 - 5670 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5670 - 5690 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5690 - 5710 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5710 - 5730 @ 80), (6, 22), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN (5735 - 5755 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ (5755 - 5775 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ (5775 - 5795 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ (5795 - 5815 @ 80), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ (5815 - 5835 @ 20), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, IR-CONCURRENT, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ, PASSIVE-SCAN When it's not working, the output is global country 00: DFS-UNSET (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 20), (N/A) (2457 - 2482 @ 20), (6, 20), (N/A), AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (6, 20), (N/A), NO-OFDM, PASSIVE-SCAN (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (6, 20), (N/A), AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (6, 20), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN (5490 - 5730 @ 160), (6, 20), (0 ms), DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (6, 20), (N/A), PASSIVE-SCAN (57240 - 63720 @ 2160), (N/A, 0), (N/A) phy#0 (self-managed) country ID: DFS-UNSET (2402 - 2437 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (2422 - 2462 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (2447 - 2482 @ 40), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ (5735 - 5815 @ 20), (6, 22), (N/A), AUTO-BW, NO-HT40MINUS, NO-HT40PLUS, NO-80MHZ, NO-160MHZ, NO-320MHZ I have been using this machine for more than 2 years, and have been connecting to 5GHz band fine in the past. This behavior is almost certainly new. I first ran into this, I think, on November 14, 2023. Appreciate any help! -- Regards, Sadeep PGP: 103BF9E3E750BF7E [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wireless#Respecting_…

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when are sound servers necessary?
by Jude DaShiell 27 Nov '23

27 Nov '23

When is it a good choice to install a sound server and when is installing a sound server a waste of disk space? -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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re: vlc-nox
by Jude DaShiell 27 Nov '23

27 Nov '23

Once ffmpeg got deleted vlc-nox installed here with no problems. So that comment from what I can figure is mostly correct except may ought to be changed to will. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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vlc for command line users
by Jude DaShiell 27 Nov '23

27 Nov '23

The package installs and is not functional. Why it's not functional is the package is missing .config/vlc/vlcrc so vlc has no clue how to do anything on a linux system. If a way exists for command line users of vlc to cause vlc to make a vlcrc file even if basic that would be a good addition to the vlc documentation on the archwiki. For whatever reason I couldn't get vlc-nox to install on this system error exit 4 manual intervention is needed. Was this manual intervention documented on arch-announce? I'll check the saved messages from that list to find out later. I have a vlcrc file I got from a contact on another list and found the vlcrc file I have enables vlc to work correctly to the extent I've used vlc so far. The vlcrc file I have is 83k in size so I can understand why videolan either omitted the documentation on how to build one of these ourselves when vlc is missing a vlcrc file or I didn't do a good enough web search with ddgr to find the documentation. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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multimedia broken by updates
by Jude DaShiell 25 Nov '23

25 Nov '23

pipewire and wireplumber were on this system before the updates happened and I had mpv and vlc playing files. I cleaned the pipewire packages from the system and put pulseaudio on the system and that hasn't improved anything either. mpv generates error output when I try playing a file with it and vlc is silent. mpv.err [E] pw.loop [loop.c:67 pw_loop_new()] 0x55a96c0d3be0: can't make support.system handle: No such file or directory -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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gitlab ban cf tld and bugtracker migration to gitlab
by u34＠net9.cf 24 Nov '23

24 Nov '23

Hello, I tried register gitlab by the same email address I am using for this list. Their online form replied that Email is not allowed for sign-up. Please use your regular email address. Check with your administrator. (https://imgur.com/a/fszgDHA) The email address is a sub domain in the .cf tld. Gitlab support response was Emails from the `cf` domain are restricted from registering due to their frequent use for abusive practices. Please use an email from another domain if you wish to register. One can also register gitlab by using his account at google, github, bitbucket or salesforce. My only motive to register is arch bugtracker. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/groups/flyspray-migration/packaging/packages/-… . Though, if I am registered, I might use my account for other purposes. As of now, I am reluctant to become a gitlab user. Not a lost for archlinux, or to gitlab. Still, for your information. -- u34

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