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[arch-general] Initial build of TDE R14 without hal dependency - Complete
by David C. Rankin 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

All, The initial update and build of the Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) upcoming R14.0.0 release is complete without hal dependency. (x86_64 packages) We will need to locate server space to host initial packages for testing. See the list of completed packages here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Complete_packages_.28current.29 Current size requirements for the packages is 301M. If you have server space available, please contact me directly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Does something in makepkg now remove '*.a' files automatically during package?
by David C. Rankin 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

All, This may be ridiculous, if so I apologize in advance, but something is stripping 'lib*.a' files from completed packages between the time of calling package() and the final package being compressed. Building tdelibs, the following files are produced and installed by package() in ${pkgdir}: /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la The PKGBUILD options are: options=('libtool' '!makeflags' '!strip') The package() function is: package() { msg "Packaging - $pkgname-$pkgver" cd ${srcdir}/build make -j1 DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install } The trinity-tdelibs.install is: post_install() { ldconfig &> /dev/null } post_upgrade() { post_install } post_remove() { post_install } I know libtdefakes_nonpic.a and libtdefakes_pic.a were installed by make -j1 DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install from the build log: -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la However, the '.a' files are not present in the final tdelibs package: tar -tJf tde-tdelibs-14.0.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz | grep tdefakes tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la So both /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a and /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a were at some point stripped from the final package. How did they get removed from the package? What did it? If I'm just being dense, sorry for the noise, but a polite pointing to a link or some explanation would greatly be appreciated. I also know that this stripping of '.a' files did NOT occur a year or so ago, because tdelibs packages built with the same PKGBUILD contain the missing files: tar -tJf tde-tdelibs-3.5.14_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz | grep tdefakes tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.4 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.4.2.0 What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Updated TDE build underway for Arch (hal no longer required)
by David C. Rankin 19 Jan '14

19 Jan '14

All, I am in the process of updating the build scripts for TDE for the upcoming release of R14 which is the first full release of TDE that eliminated dependency on hal. The official release of R14 should occur within the next two weeks. Time permitting, we should have all PKGBUILDS for TDE on arch complete by mid-February. I am updating https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity as time permits. TDE will install in /opt/trinity. If you have any suggestion or pointers for the build or if you are interested in the project, feel free to contact me directly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] namcap - project in /opt, custom rules file - base on elffiles.py or rpath.py?
by David C. Rankin 18 Jan '14

18 Jan '14

Guys, I am trying to learn how to create custom rules for checking tde packages installed in /opt. I would like to create a custom rules file that would allow use of namecap -e elfpaths,rpath -r tdepaths and have it verify files placed in valid directories. I have looked at elffiles.py and rpath.py as templates, but not coding in python, I don't know which would serve as the best template, or if it matters. It looks like elffiles.py validates file/binary locations with rpath.py handles libraries. I've looked at the Namcap wiki and still have questions. Would one (elffiles.py or rpath.py) be better than the other for this purpose or should I build a custom rule from each. New to namecap, that's why I'm asking. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] difference between arch-nspawn and mkarchroot?
by David C. Rankin 17 Jan '14

17 Jan '14

Devs, DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot notes that updating the chroot is now done by: arch-nspawn $CHROOT/root pacman -Syu instead of mkarchroot -u $CHROOT/root Checking the help for both files I note (1) the -u option is dropped from mkarchroot, and (2) the help output for both arch-nspawn and mkarchroot are identical. So what is the difference between the two? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Xen VGA passthrough unbind VGA from nouveau
by Dimitris Zervas 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Hello, I am on latest kernel 3.12.6-1-ARCH with xen 4.3.1-2 with an i7-3820 and Asus P9X79 Deluxe with 16GB ram. I have 2 graphics cards, an EVGA 9800GT and an Asus GTX660 Ti. I want to passthrough the 660 to a win 7 domain. The problem is that whatever I do (pciback or pci-stub), nouveau detects the 660 normally and when I try to unbind it throws up a kernel panic. What I did with pci-stub: added pci-stub to Modules in mkinitcpio added pci-stub.ids=my:id With pciback: The same steps with pci-stub... A solution is to blacklist nouveau, but I want X server running on my 9800 (Arch on two monitors and windows to the other). Another problem I faced when I blacklisted nouveau, is that the domain is created, but I can only see output on VNC and not on the attached monitor, but it could be that I booted from windows CD (not installed system). not sure. I would be glad if anyone has advice on how to make xen work with nvidia propriety drivers (for 3d acceleration), but that's not my main problem right now. I think that a lot of people have run to the same problem (but googling did not help....), and that's why I'm using the mailing list. Thank you.

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[arch-general] on reboot: systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs - hung (hard reset required)
by David C. Rankin 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

All, After doing a system update today, I rebooted. The system hung on reboot requiring a hard reset. It has never done this in the past (20 or so reboots). Checking through the log I find: Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Stopping system-netctl.slice. Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Removed slice system-netctl.slice. Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix mysqld[311]: 140116 12:43:19 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 7507539 Jan 16 12:43:20 phoinix mysqld[311]: 140116 12:43:20 [Note] /usr/bin/mysqld: Shutdown complete Jan 16 12:43:20 phoinix systemd[1]: Stopped MariaDB database server. Jan 16 12:44:03 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:09 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:20 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:22 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:23 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:24 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:26 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:36 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:38 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. -- Reboot -- So the box hung on shutdown at 12:44:03 and it just sat there until I did a hard reset (pushed the reset button). Has anybody experienced a similar hang on reboot? I welcome suggestions since this box is at a remote location and I need to insure a clean remote reboot. What else to check? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] libgcrypt.so.20 missing
by Mark E. Lee 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Salutations! After an upgrade of my entire system, I am now unable to install packages or run any programs that depend on libgcrypt. I get the following error : libgrypt.so.20 not found. Looking at my pacman logs it seems that This error appeared after an update to pth (2.0.7-4 -> 2.0.7-5). I've downgraded the package but it doesn't seem to solve the issue. Regards, Mark -- Mark E. Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] libgsf 1.14.28-1 - bug - gsf-libxml.h:26:25: fatal error
by David C. Rankin 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

All, Is this a bug or is it me. Looks like a bug in libgsf 1.14.28-1 in the header file: /usr/include/libgsf-1/gsf/gsf-libxml.h If you attempt to include this header file you receive the error: /usr/include/libgsf-1/gsf/gsf-libxml.h:26:25: fatal error: libxml/tree.h: No such file or directory #include <libxml/tree.h> ^ compilation terminated. Example: #include <stdio.h> #include <libxml/tree.h> void main (int argc, char *argv[]) { printf("testing include\n"); } 17:01 phoinix:/dat_e/tde/tstbld/tmp> gcc -o tst tst.c tst.c:3:25: fatal error: libxml/tree.h: No such file or directory #include <libxml/tree.h> ^ compilation terminated. If someone will confirm this is a bug and not me being dense -- I'll file it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Mirrors out of date
by Mark Lee 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Salutations, Pardon me but does anyone know how mirrors are synced and flagged out of date? Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] Is out of source building still recommended with cmake in PKGBUILD scripts
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

All, Updating PKGBUILDs as specified in VCS_PKGBUILD_Guidelines, I have a svn based source that builds with cmake. In the past I have forced out of source building for all cmake built packages. e.g.: build() { cd $srcdir msg "Creating out-of-source build directory: ${srcdir}/${_builddir}" mkdir -p build cd build msg "Starting cmake..." cmake ${srcdir}/blah \ <snip> msg "Building - $pkgname..." make } In https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VCS_PKGBUILD_Guidelines it specifies that "The local repo is left untouched, thus invalidating the need for a -build directory." Am I reading this correctly to say - "creating a separate out-of-source build directory is no longer required -- even for cmake built packages?" Or am I just confused again... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] How stable are the new version number formats on eg. filesystem, usbutils, etc.
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

All, Updating different minimum dependency package version info for tde PKGBUILDs, I note there have been a number of 'version number format' changes for various packages. E.g.: filesystem 0.x.y-z ==> 2013.05-2 usbutils 0.x.y-z ==> 006-1 There is a big difference going from filesystem>=0.7.3 to filesystem>=2013. When I run across packages like this where the version has changed format -- Are they likely going to stay with the new format? Or will they likely revert back to major.minor-rel numbers at some time? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Ruby gem packages in Arch
by Anatol Pomozov 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi everyone I manage a lot of Ruby packages (~230) in AUR, updated ~150 of them recently. I would like to share my experience with herding these packages. Some of the issues might be similar to other language package systems (cpan, pip, nodejs). First it worth mention that Ruby has its own packages manager (rubygems). It is the standard and nearly all ruby software distributed via rubygems. Rubygems has its package specification that includes information like project homepage, developer contacts, license, information about native dependencies. It makes sense to parse those specifications and use it for PKGBUILD maintenance. The idea is to have a script that will create ruby packages, will bump versions, update dependencies if needed. And this scriptability is important - copy/pasting ruby gems information is boring and error-prone. There are several scripts that perform gem->arch conversion and I work on one of them called 'gem2arch' [1]. >From other side rubygems differ from pacman that sometimes make it harder to match packages. The main difference is that rubygems has very flexible dependency mechanism. Several versions of a package can be installed at the same time. Another package can specify custom dependency restriction. It can depend on a specific version e.g. '=4.0.2' or it can ask for a range of versions, or any crazy set of restrictions like 'provide me package FOO with version between 2.3 and 3.1.4 but excluding 2.8 and 3.0.2'. The most popular type of dependency restriction is 'approximately greater' aka '~>'. '~>3.0.3' means 'give me package with version 3.0.XXX where XXX equal or larger than 3'. '~>' is quite popular mechanism to stick to a specific version range with stable API. Because rubygem can have several versions of the package installed such restrictions do not block other packages from using more recent versions. Thus package FOO might use version 2.x while BAR uses 3.x and everyone is happy. This dependency mechanism is different from the Arch where the preferred form of dependency is 'use HEAD version'. Several versions can be installed in Arch by adding version suffix to the package name e.g. ruby1.8 or apachae2.2. But versioned packages is an exception rather than rule in Arch. In rubygems using non-HEAD version is normal and widely-used practice. ~20% of my ruby packages are versioned one, e.g. ruby-rail-2 ruby-tilt-1. ruby-rails-2 means the latest version of rails 2.xx and ruby-tilt-1 is the latest version of tilt 1.yy. Dependency version calculation might be tricky in case of complex dependency restrictions, e.g. foo-2.2.1 might be either 'foo', 'foo-2', 'foo-2.2' or 'foo-2.2.1' depending on what other released version 'foo' has. Doing these calculations manually might be tricky but thanks to 'gem2arch' it makes things easier. In general adding/updating packages is a simple task (thanks to gem2arch). Only small number of packages require custom modifications like source patching or adding native dependencies. Emphasizing importance of scripting I would like to mention a rule that makes scripting harder. Ruby language page [3] says "For libraries, use ruby-$gemname. For applications, use the program name". How to calculate this rule in a script? Is a file in /usr/bin enough to tell that this is an app? Actually a lot of the ruby libraries can be used both as command-line application and a library (rake, rdoc, rubygems, erubis, nokogiri, ....) it is safe to tell that all packages in rubygems are libraries. If so I propose to change this rule to "all ruby packages should be named ruby-$gemname". Other ruby users like this idea [2]. Also some maintainers try to make package names nicer and do not follow "ruby-$gemname" rule. For example 'rubyirc' gem was packed as ruby-irc Arch package. It is harder for a script to match the gem to this package. Also there was a problem when another gem called 'irc' appeared, this one is actually should be used for 'ruby-irc' package. So I propose another rule for Ruby (and other languages) - follow 'ruby-$gemname' even if gemname already contains a mention of 'ruby'. To negative side of ruby packaging in AUR I can add bad situation with inactive maintainers. The ruby packages are spread over many maintainers most of which are inactive and do not update packages. Ruby packages in AUR stay out-of-date for many months. In general I think that for an active ruby development that does not require Arch dependencies 'gem installed in $HOME' is better way to go. [1] https://github.com/anatol/gem2arch [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines

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[arch-general] connman conflicts
by Curtis Shimamoto 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

I was wondering why connman conflicts with openresolv. Looking through the files in each package, there don't seem to be any in common. So I figure there must be something that I am missing or just completely unaware of. I am primarily a connman user, but I use connman-git from the AUR, both because it seems to be in pretty active development and because it does not have as many of the features that I don't need built into it. In the AUR, connman-git does not conflict with openresolv. So I am kind of wondering if it should. I like having netctl on my machine as well, but if this poses some kind of risk or true conflict somehow, I would just like to know if I should make a decision between one or the other. Thanks. -- Curtis Shimamoto

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[arch-general] Failure to resume on kernel >3.9.9
by Patrick Burroughs (Celti) 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi list, I realise this email comes with a deplorable paucity of informaton, but I haven't found *any* logs relating to this event. I also realise I've waited what may be considered overlong to ask for help, but I was hoping the bug would be fixed in a later kernel release and it wasn't. Google has failed me, so now I come to you for help. My laptop is an HP Pavilion g7. The system suspends normally, but fails to resume leaving a powered-off screen and no responsiveness to keyboard input, including the magic sysrq, but the caps lock light turns on and off. At first I suspected fglrx, but it happens with or without fglrx loaded, and with or without nomodeset on the kernel command line. Further, it happens identically inside or outside of X. I tried git-bisect on the kernel but gave up after many hours of compiling and testing — anyone know of a faster/easier way to do this? I'm currently running kernel 3.9.8, but am perfectly willing to update again and generate a failure to provide any logs someone thinks may help — I haven't found anything, but I may not be looking in the right place. Thank you, ~Celti

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[arch-general] Packages Verified with MD5
by Taylor Hornby 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

I noticed that the TrueCrypt package is downloaded over an insecure FTP connection and then only verified using MD5 hashes. https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=… There are practical collision attacks against MD5. This means an adversary (e.g. the NSA) can construct two versions of the truecrypt binaries, one malicious and one not, which have the same MD5 hash. They can silently replace the file being downloaded with the malicious version and the change will not be detected. This should be fixed to use SHA256 hashes, like the Firefox package: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=… How can I help make it use SHA256 instead of MD5? I'm relatively new to arch, so I'm not familiar with what it takes to change something in the repos. Any advice would be appreciated. Are there other packages still being verified with MD5? Can we fix them too? I'll gladly donate my time if it's not something that can be automated. Thanks, -- Taylor Hornby p.s. This might be better suited to arch-dev-public, but I think users should be informed of the vulnerability, so I decided on arch-general.

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[arch-general] Empty resolv.conf after PXE boot
by Loper 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hello, I'm having problem with resolv.conf. After booting LiveCD (every version), sometimes it's empty. Problem occurs when using more than 1 interface and probably when one of them isn't connected. Mostly it takes place when I'm booting Arch under ESXi 5.5.0. After running 'dhcpcd' resolv.conf is filled and has correct data. Adding 'copy_resolvconf=y' to kernel params doesn't help. Also FYI: I'm using iPXE to boot this ISO. To reproduce this issue: 1. Boot ArchLinux ISO on any machine (ie. virtual) with 2 or more NIC's 2. Log in as root and cat /etc/resolv.conf - it will be empty or containing empty line 3. Try to ping any foreign domain, ie. google.com - it should fail 4. Run 'dhcpcd' and check if resolv.conf is filled correctly - fixed If it would work automatically, not by explicite calling 'dhcpcd or systemctl start dhcpcd@'. Any ideas? ------- Best regards, Loper

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[arch-general] systemd claims /run out of space
by Jameson 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

For some reason on my home server, systemd is often telling me I'm out of space, but I can't find a problem. Just now, I stopped httpd, and when I try to start it, again, systemd says I'm out of space, the status reports: systemd[1]: Failed to set a watch for httpd.service's PID file /run/httpd/httpd.pid: No space left on device. However, df shows: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda4 107G 33G 73G 31% / dev 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /dev run 7.9G 572K 7.9G 1% /run tmpfs 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 7.9G 1.4M 7.9G 1% /tmp di reports: run /run 7.8G 0.0G 7.8G 0% tmpfs Does anyone know where I can look to see why systemd returns this? Thanks, =-Jameson

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[arch-general] LUKS emergency self-destruct
by Paladin 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hi, does anyone know if there is plan to implement this: http://www.kali.org/how-to/emergency-self-destruction-luks-kali/ in Arch? Patch https://github.com/offensive-security/cryptsetup-nuke-keys is not too big and IMHO it would be great to have this option.. Patch is for 1.6.1 but it cannot be that difficult to port it to 1.6.3 which we have. Paladin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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Re: [arch-general] "os-prober" failed to work with "blkid" (util-linux 2.24-2)
by Ken CC 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:15:03PM +0100, Timothée Ravier wrote: > On 09/01/2014 10:11, Ken CC wrote: > > (...) > > > > What do you guys think? > > Please report bugs upstream, or in the bug tracker. > bug reported: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38487 -ken

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[arch-general] Error install blink-darcs
by Maykel Franco 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

I cannot install blink-darcs in archlinux...Can I help me please?? Thanks in advanced. [root@arch-maykel maykel]# yaourt -S blink-darcs --noconfirm ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD Comment by fdservices (2012-05-21 07:34) If this works with python27 shouldit not be updated? Comment by Synthead (2013-01-28 02:43) The documentation calls for Python 2.5 or 2.6, but seems to run ok on Python 2.7. Updated! Comment by Synthead (2013-01-28 02:44) Also, the darcs-bin is an easy way to get darcs on your system without worrying about all the build dependencies ;) Comment by grugnog (2013-03-12 12:25) Getting a segfault when trying making a call with a fresh install of blink and dependencies. Unfortunately it is a hisenbug - since running it with strace works! Will need to try again with gdb at some point. My hunch is that it may be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgcrypt11/+bug/1013798 Comment by gardar (2013-11-15 13:43) Dependency `python2-pyqt' of `blink-darcs' does not exist blink-darcs 20130127-1 (vie may 13 09:28:12 CEST 2011) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de blink-darcs: - python2 (ya instalado) - python2-application (ya instalado) - python2-cjson (ya instalado) - python2-gnutls (ya instalado) - python2-pyqt (ya instalado) - twisted (ya instalado) - python2-eventlib (compilando des de AUR) - python2-sipsimple (compilando des de AUR) - darcs (compilando des de AUR) ==> Continuar compilando blink-darcs? [S/n] ==> --------------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> Las fuentes de blink-darcs se guardaron en la última ocasión. Utilizarlas? [S/n] ==> Instalar o compilar las dependencias que faltan para blink-darcs: ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD Comment by bretthoerner (2012-12-07 14:57) == Install or build missing dependencies for darcs: error: target not found: haskell-haskeline0.7 Any ideas? Comment by stewSquared (2013-02-26 17:11) I recommend installing from the Haskell Hackage: $ pacman -S cabal-install $ cabal install darcs This way, it's guaranteed to be up-to-date (bonus: haskell-tar and haskell-haskeline are present). Comment by misc (2013-03-11 11:23) Is prepare() still observed by pacman? Had to move its content to build() for it to work. Comment by gtmanfred (2013-03-11 15:53) bah, my bad, prepare doesn't exist until pacman 4.1 I was using it so i wouldn't have to continually configure it Fixing Comment by tzok (2013-06-21 09:52) Please add haskell-utf8-string to makedepends, as it is a required package. darcs 2.8.4-2 (mié mar 21 11:49:56 CET 2012) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de darcs: - curl (ya instalado) - gmp (ya instalado) - ncurses>=5.6-7 (ya instalado) - ghc (ya instalado) - haskell-tar (ya instalado) - haskell-text<0.12 (ya instalado) - haskell-haskeline (ya instalado) - haskell-random (ya instalado) - haskell-vector (ya instalado) - haskell-html<1.1 (ya instalado) - haskell-parsec<3.2 (ya instalado) - haskell-regex-compat (ya instalado) - haskell-hashed-storage<0.6 (compilando des de AUR) ==> Continuar compilando darcs? [S/n] ==> --------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> Instalar o compilar las dependencias que faltan para darcs: ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD x haskell-hashed-storage.install Comment by goviedo (2013-09-26 14:13) I had a problem compiling this to darcs in my Archbang x64 kernel Storage/Hashed/Utils.hs:17:1: Bad interface file: /usr/lib/ghc-7.6.3/site-local/mtl-2.1.2/Control/Monad/Identity.hi Data.Binary.getWord8: end of file == ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... Linux arch 3.11.1-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Sep 22 19:45:00 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux Comment by eatsaq (2013-11-08 01:14) - Extracting hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz with bsdtar == Starting build()... Setup.hs:27:3: Warning: In the use of `runTests' (imported from Distribution.Simple, but defined in Distribution.Simple.UserHooks): Deprecated: "Please use the new testing interface instead!" Configuring hashed-storage-0.5.10... Setup: At least the following dependencies are missing: extensible-exceptions -any, mtl -any == ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Comment by skeksis268 (2013-12-01 18:57) fails build with the following error: Setup: At least one of the following dependencies are missing: mmap == 0.5.* This is despite having the latest of haskell-mmap package installed Comment by thoth (2013-12-15 16:14) +1 here as well (same as skeksis268) haskell-hashed-storage 0.5.10-1 (lun mar 11 08:26:53 CET 2013) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de haskell-hashed-storage: - ghc (ya instalado) - haskell-dataenc (ya instalado) - haskell-extensible-exceptions (ya instalado) - haskell-mmap (ya instalado) - haskell-mtl (ya instalado) - haskell-zlib (ya instalado) - ghc (ya instalado) ==> Continuar compilando haskell-hashed-storage? [S/n] ==> -------------------------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> AVISO: Compilar un paquete como administrador es peligroso. Ejecute yaourt como usuario normal. ==> Creando el paquete: haskell-hashed-storage 0.5.10-1 (vie ene 10 22:00:52 CET 2014) ==> Resolviendo dependencias... ==> Verificando conflictos... ==> Recibiendo fuentes... -> Descargando hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz... % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 0 0 0 57658 0 0 142k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 142k ==> Validando el archivo fuente con md5sums... hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz ... Aprobado ==> Descomprimiendo fuentes... -> Extrayendo hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz con bsdtar ==> Iniciando build()... Setup.hs:27:3: Warning: In the use of `runTests' (imported from Distribution.Simple, but defined in Distribution.Simple.UserHooks): Deprecated: "Please use the new testing interface instead!" Configuring hashed-storage-0.5.10... Setup: At least the following dependencies are missing: mmap ==0.5.* ==> ERROR: Se produjo un error en build(). Cancelando... ==> ERROR: Makepkg no ha podido compilar haskell-hashed-storage. ==> Reiniciar la compilación de haskell-hashed-storage? [s/N] ==> --------------------------------------------------------- ==> ==> Reiniciar la compilación de darcs? [s/N] ==> ---------------------------------------- ==> ==> Reiniciar la compilación de blink-darcs? [s/N] ==> ---------------------------------------------- ==>

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[arch-general] clients can no longer mount.cifs the '/' samba share from current Arch server (long)
by David C. Rankin 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

Guys, Something in current Archlinux prevents clients mounting a root samba share '/' via mount.cifs. Since building a new Arch server a month or so ago, I have been chasing an issue with mount.cifs that prevents the '/' share from being mounted as it always has. This has worked (and continues to work) on all Arch boxes up until this latest box. I have addressed this to the samba list (see thread: [Samba] What in samba 4.1 prevents a '/' share?) After a month of troubleshooting with the samba devs, it seems that the issue may have to do with the way /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags, or some other default is now set in Arch. Others have confirmed the ability to mount '/' shares from servers running samba 4.1.3, with the exact smb.conf settings, so it appears this is Arch specific. I'm not 100% sure if this is samba related or whether it is cifs related, so I am asking here so I can get the bug report right -- if needed. Several bug reports deal with the drop of ntlm security for the kernel as of kernel 3.8 and with differing /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags values -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/1113395 (see specifically No. #12 & #15 citing: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=159915) Historically the value of /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags has been set at 0x7 (or not set at all on Arch), but now Arch sets the value to 0x85. Examples: (older Arch box smbd Version 3.6.6) [19:32 nirvana:/etc] # cat /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags cat: /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags: No such file or directory (new Arch box smbd Version 4.1.3) [19:30 phoinix:/home/david/cnf/phoinix/etc] # cat /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags 0x85 I have set /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags to the traditional value of 0x7, but there is still something that prevents the mount from working. I will detail below the config and attempts made to resolve the issue. The bottom line is that all older Arch servers (and openSuSE boxes) I have can successfully share/mount a '/' root samba share, but there is now something in current Arch that prevents this from working. The folks at the samba list are stumped because there is nothing in samba or cifs that has changed that would prevent this from working. The bug reports I've read suggest the cifs/SecurityFlags setting may be involved, but from the testing I've done, I don't know if that makes any difference. Now I need help from you smarter Archers to help figure out what changed that prevents this from working and how to fix it. The current Arch box (hostname phoinix) is a fully updated box (as of 1/6/14) with: # smbd --version Version 3.6.7 # mount.cifs -V mount.cifs version: 5.6 The samba config: The server functions as a standalone server (no PDC, etc..). The smb.conf and share definitions are: Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions [global] workgroup = RLFPLLC server string = Phoinix Samba %v map to guest = Bad User smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 time server = Yes printcap name = /etc/printcap show add printer wizard = No os level = 66 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes idmap config * : backend = tdb admin users = david hosts allow = 192.168.6., 192.168.7., 127. use sendfile = Yes [homes] comment = Home Directories read only = No browseable = No [config] comment = Phoinix Config (Archlinux) path = / valid users = david force user = root force group = root read only = No browseable = No [samba] comment = Phoinix - Law path = /home/samba valid users = @rankin, #, anna force group = rankin read only = No inherit permissions = Yes <snip> Mounting the homes and samba shares work fine and printing via cups works fine. The only issue is mounting the [config] share. The shares are mounted making use of a credentials file with: mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -v -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm The results of mount showing successful mount of the [homes] and [samba] shares: //phoinix/samba on /mnt/phx type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=1.0,sec=ntlm,cache=loose,unc=\\phoinix\samba,username=david,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.7.16,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,noperm,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1) //phoinix/david on /mnt/phx-david type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=1.0,sec=ntlm,cache=loose,unc=\\phoinix\david,username=david,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.7.16,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,noperm,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1) However, attempting to mount the [config] share results in the error: [18:33 providence:~/tmp/cifs] # mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -v -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount.cifs kernel mount options: ip=192.168.7.16,unc=\\phoinix\config,noperm,uid=1000,user=david,pass=******** mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) I have tried with 'sec=ntlmv2' and 'sec=ntlmssp' which makes no difference. I have tried with/without 'domain=rlfpllc' again no difference. What I need to determine is whether this is a bug or whether this is a configuration issue, and if so, in what? I have captured tcpdump traffic during the mount attempts and they point to smb issuing the error, but I'm not that great at reading packet contents, so I'm not entirely sure. But basically, after successful AndX session setup (Tree Connect AndX Request, Path: \\phoinix\config), the request for \\phoinix\config is made and it is found successfully by the server, but then the server response with (Tree Connect AndX Response, Error: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) The full ASCII dump of the packet along with additional testing showing it works on all older servers is included below. If you have ideas or would like me to post additional information, just let me know. I have worked to collect the relevant information from the samba thread, but let me know if you need anything else Arch related from the box. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. ====== Additional Testing and ASCII dump of STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED packet ====== Testing with other servers I can easily mount the '/' share from any other computer. Here is my 3-computer test setup: On my client (hostname providence) I have: 18:01 providence:~> smbd -V Version 3.6.7 linux 3.5.3-1 cifs-utils 5.6-2 On the server (hostname phoinix) I have: 18:15 phoinix:~> smbd -V Version 4.1.3 linux 3.12.6-1 cifs-utils 6.2-1 On a second older server (hostname nemesis) I have: 18:30 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> smbd -V Version 3.4.5-5.1-2300-SUSE-SL11.0 kernel-pae-2.6.25.20-0.7 cifs-mount-3.4.5-5.1 Mounting the '/' config share from host *providence on nemesis* works fine: 18:31 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //providence/config /mnt/pv-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:31 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/pv-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:41 ./ drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2013-12-28 18:29 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:50 bin/ drwxr-xr-x 3 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:48 boot/ <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *nemesis on providence* works fine: 18:37 providence:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //nemesis/config /mnt/nm-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:37 providence:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/nm-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Dec 9 11:24 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Mar 3 2011 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Dec 5 2010 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 david root 0 Mar 8 2010 boot <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *providence on phoinix* works fine: 18:54 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //providence/config /mnt/pv-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:55 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/pv-cfg/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Dec 28 18:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 May 13 2011 .config drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 boot <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *nemesis on phoinix* works fine: 18:55 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //nemesis/config /mnt/nm-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:57 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/nm-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Dec 9 11:24 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Dec 28 18:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Dec 5 2010 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 david root 0 Mar 8 2010 boot <snip> However, attempting the mount of the '/' share from host *phoinix on anything* else fails. The only difference I can see is this is when I'm attempting to mount the share from 4.1.X on anything else: 18:59 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) 18:40 providence:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) The ASCII packet dissection for the STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED packet is: No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 25 3.487933 192.168.7.16 192.168.7.124 SMB 105 Tree Connect AndX Response, Error: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED Frame 25: 105 bytes on wire (840 bits), 105 bytes captured (840 bits) WTAP_ENCAP: 1 Arrival Time: Jan 6, 2014 17:45:50.826685000 CST [Time shift for this packet: 0.000000000 seconds] Epoch Time: 1389051950.826685000 seconds [Time delta from previous captured frame: 0.001539000 seconds] [Time delta from previous displayed frame: 0.001539000 seconds] [Time since reference or first frame: 3.487933000 seconds] Frame Number: 25 Frame Length: 105 bytes (840 bits) Capture Length: 105 bytes (840 bits) [Frame is marked: False] [Frame is ignored: False] [Protocols in frame: eth:ip:tcp:nbss:smb] [Coloring Rule Name: SMB] [Coloring Rule String: smb || nbss || nbns || nbipx || ipxsap || netbios] Ethernet II, Src: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa), Dst: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) Destination: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) Address: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) Source: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa) Address: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 192.168.7.16 (192.168.7.16), Dst: 192.168.7.124 (192.168.7.124) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) 0000 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) .... ..00 = Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) Total Length: 91 Identification: 0x0398 (920) Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) 0... .... = Reserved bit: Not set .1.. .... = Don't fragment: Set ..0. .... = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 64 Protocol: TCP (6) Header checksum: 0xa728 [correct] [Good: True] [Bad: False] Source: 192.168.7.16 (192.168.7.16) Destination: 192.168.7.124 (192.168.7.124) [Source GeoIP: Unknown] [Destination GeoIP: Unknown] Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: microsoft-ds (445), Dst Port: 50813 (50813), Seq: 210, Ack: 445, Len: 39 Source port: microsoft-ds (445) Destination port: 50813 (50813) [Stream index: 2] Sequence number: 210 (relative sequence number) [Next sequence number: 249 (relative sequence number)] Acknowledgment number: 445 (relative ack number) Header length: 32 bytes Flags: 0x018 (PSH, ACK) 000. .... .... = Reserved: Not set ...0 .... .... = Nonce: Not set .... 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not set .... .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set .... ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set .... ...1 .... = Acknowledgment: Set .... .... 1... = Push: Set .... .... .0.. = Reset: Not set .... .... ..0. = Syn: Not set .... .... ...0 = Fin: Not set Window size value: 235 [Calculated window size: 30080] [Window size scaling factor: 128] Checksum: 0x5220 [validation disabled] [Good Checksum: False] [Bad Checksum: False] Options: (12 bytes), No-Operation (NOP), No-Operation (NOP), Timestamps No-Operation (NOP) Type: 1 0... .... = Copy on fragmentation: No .00. .... = Class: Control (0) ...0 0001 = Number: No-Operation (NOP) (1) No-Operation (NOP) Type: 1 0... .... = Copy on fragmentation: No .00. .... = Class: Control (0) ...0 0001 = Number: No-Operation (NOP) (1) Timestamps: TSval 290109681, TSecr 203763093 Kind: Timestamp (8) Length: 10 Timestamp value: 290109681 Timestamp echo reply: 203763093 [SEQ/ACK analysis] [This is an ACK to the segment in frame: 24] [The RTT to ACK the segment was: 0.001539000 seconds] [Bytes in flight: 39] NetBIOS Session Service Message Type: Session message (0x00) Length: 35 SMB (Server Message Block Protocol) SMB Header Server Component: SMB [Response to: 24] [Time from request: 0.001539000 seconds] SMB Command: Tree Connect AndX (0x75) NT Status: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED (0xc0000022) Flags: 0x80 1... .... = Request/Response: Message is a response to the client/redirector .0.. .... = Notify: Notify client only on open ..0. .... = Oplocks: OpLock not requested/granted ...0 .... = Canonicalized Pathnames: Pathnames are not canonicalized .... 0... = Case Sensitivity: Path names are case sensitive .... ..0. = Receive Buffer Posted: Receive buffer has not been posted .... ...0 = Lock and Read: Lock&Read, Write&Unlock are not supported Flags2: 0xc003 1... .... .... .... = Unicode Strings: Strings are Unicode .1.. .... .... .... = Error Code Type: Error codes are NT error codes ..0. .... .... .... = Execute-only Reads: Don't permit reads if execute-only ...0 .... .... .... = Dfs: Don't resolve pathnames with Dfs .... 0... .... .... = Extended Security Negotiation: Extended security negotiation is not supported .... .0.. .... .... = Reparse Path: The request does not use a @GMT reparse path .... .... .0.. .... = Long Names Used: Path names in request are not long file names .... .... ...0 .... = Security Signatures Required: Security signatures are not required .... .... .... 0... = Compressed: Compression is not requested .... .... .... .0.. = Security Signatures: Security signatures are not supported .... .... .... ..1. = Extended Attributes: Extended attributes are supported .... .... .... ...1 = Long Names Allowed: Long file names are allowed in the response Process ID High: 0 Signature: 0000000000000000 Reserved: 0000 Tree ID: 0 (\\phoinix\config) [Path: \\phoinix\config] [Mapped in: 25] Process ID: 1996 User ID: 14822 Multiplex ID: 3 Tree Connect AndX Response (0x75) Word Count (WCT): 0 Byte Count (BCC): 0 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Logind Timing out?
by Steve Holmes 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

After updating my 64 bigt Arch system to latest stable releases, I began to have problems with logind services timing out and allowing me to have only one console available to work with. it seems that when I have ntpdate running and use netctl to auto start my wireless profile, these problems occur. When I disable ntpdate.service, then I seem to get my consols back and logind appears to be working OK. I also experienced similar problems when I was trying out netctl-ifplugd with my wired connections. If the cable was plugged in, then all started right up just fine but if I unplugged the cable and rebooted, then the above stated problems also wold occur. Up until today, I was not having these problems. I can't seem to pin down the exact cause of these issues but these began to happen after experimenting with a more dynamic network setup. My ultimate goal is to have both netctl-ifplugd and netctl-auto both running and then I can have the flexibility of switching to a cabled connection if necessary and be able to also dynamically pick up whatever WIFI service I come into. I read the Arch wiki pages about networking so I have most of that working presuably OK now except for these logind issues. How could networking delays cause all the timing problems with logind.service?

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[arch-general] "os-prober" failed to work with "blkid" (util-linux 2.24-2)
by Ken CC 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Hi, It is because the new blkid can now recognize the extened partion, but os-prober relies on the return value "2" (exit_not_found) of blkid to skip processing the extended partition. # fdisk -l ... Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 63 252847034 126423486 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 252847035 625137344 186145155 5 Extended /dev/sda5 252847098 253425374 289138+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 385254828 482913899 48829536 83 Linux ... blkid 2.24-2 --- # blkid /dev/sda2 /dev/sda2: PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="28b48ca1-02" # echo $? 0 # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 0 blkid 2.20.0 --- # blkid /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 2 # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 2 Affected os-prober code: --- File: /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests - 8 types="$(fs_type "$partition")" || types=NOT-DETECTED 9 if [ "$types" = NOT-DETECTED ]; then 10 debug "$1 type not recognised; skipping" 11 exit 0 With old blkid, os-prober will just skip here when handling /dev/sda2, but with the current version of blkid, os-prober will go on and try to mount /dev/sda2 with FS types found in the system, which causes lots of errors, even kernel calltrace when trying xfs, on my machine. I think there are three ways to sovlve this: 1. change the way that os-prober detects devices. 2. make blkid return an error code when # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sdaX returns no proper result. 3. use the old version of blkid (util-linux). What do you guys think? -ken

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[arch-general] Thank you
by Genes Lists 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Over the last 2 weeks I have replaced 3 fedora servers with Arch - and want to say thank you . That's the last of my fedora machines now and I am all Arch and they are all working really well. The new boxes are haswell UEFI and boot using refind. Setting this up was straightforward with Arch. Thank you for making Arch the best linux distro. Happy New Year gene

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[arch-general] Package management
by Temlin Olivér 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kalrish Bäakjen <kalrish.antrax(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Before starting, I'd like to remind that we're all humans, so we can > discuss these ideas politely and making use of nothing more than > reason. I am NOT a pedantic person looking to impose my will; please, > excuse me if you feel I'm doing it. I hope this turns into an > interesting conversation, and not into an unjustified battle, as it > too often does. > > Recently, I realized I was not using Arch in the way it was > "intended"; I was building most of the packages of my system, much "a > la Gentoo", with modified PKGBUILDs and a local repository. While it > worked with no major inconveniences, I started looking for truly > source-based distros, and found Gentoo. However, I disliked some parts > about it. This is my attempt at taking what I consider to be "good" > ideas to Arch. > > **Binary packages are right** > It is possible to either build packages by yourself, and then store > them for later use, or directly take them in prebuilt form. This is > specially useful when time matters or when the machine is unable to > build things (in my case, I broke a laptop, and it seems it was > because of overheating). > > **Versioning** > If I have understood it right, Gentoo makes it possible to have > several versions of the same package through "slots". Consider the > following scenario in Arch: > bar1 -> libfoo-1.0 > bar2 -> libfoo-1.0 > `libfoo´ is updated to 2.0. `bar2´ catchs up, but `bar1´ does not. > Thus, updating `libfoo´ to the latest version would break `bar1´, but > is necessary for `bar2´. The solution I've seen is adding the major > version number in the package name (e.g. "gtk2", "freetype2"), which > would turn the older version of `libfoo´ into `libfoo1´. I think, > however, that we could implement Gentoo's "slots", and add the concept > of "alternatives". That way, there would be PKGBUILDs for both > versions of the library, each with the same name but different > version. Each library would be installed as, say, > "/usr/lib/libfoo-${pkgver}.so", and an additional script for handling > of the named "alternatives" could then create a symlink at > /usr/lib/libfoo.so pointing to the right version _if needed_. The > script would exist in a per-package basis, so there would only be one > for both versions of `libfoo´. For example: > $ alternatives-manager libfoo --choose 2.0 > ln -s /usr/lib/libfoo-2.0.so /usr/lib/libfoo.so > (The name and syntax is just an example.) > This is easier to understand with libraries. With programs, however, > it's more difficult; someone could want to install different versions > of the same program, or, more likely, an outdated version (a typical > case would be GNOME 2). We could add "-${pkgver}" to the name of the > binaries in such cases, and then use alternatives to create convenient > symlinks. It would be horrible to have "cp-8.9.2" and the like. > Packages that could benefit from this are freetype, python, and I > guess every library out there. It would be, however, hard to > implement. > > **Package selection** > When pacman finds several versions of the same package in various > repositories, it fetches the one in the prevalent repo. This implies > that, if I've configured my local repository before the official > repos, I will never notice that a package has been updated. I'll have > to do `pacman -Ss pkg-that-ive-compiled´ to check if there's a newer > version, or track each project by myself. I think that, if pacman > finds itself in the described situation, it should prompt to ask which > package to install, unless --noconfirm is passed, in which case it > should stick with the default. [If I do `pacman -S repo/pkg´, however, > pacman should have no problem in choosing the package, and it > shouldn't ask.] > > These were all the ideas. If you haven't understood something, please > ask. Thanks, > Kalrish Hello! It's a nice idea to have, but packages need to link to the proper library version (eg. libfoo.so.1, not libfoo.so), thus making the repeated linking unnecesary. If that's a problem, then you can file a bug report. There already are a lot of symlinks in /lib, to ensure compatibility. If a new library version brakes old packages (many), than the old library is released as you said, with corrected dependencies for all packages (see libpng12 in community). Handling old versions is nearly impossible, as neither packagers nor upstream can be bothered to provide support for outdated packages. Even if Gentoo found a way, the biggest problem would be that it goes against the Arch Way: outdated packages go to the repos and it would complicate the system even more, using the libpng example, the AUR contains three additional packages, making the count 5. Putting these in the official repos would encourage developers to keep using old libraries for their projects and force the user to (in your alternatives-manager-style version) to change library symlinks repeatedly. So the arch solution to your problem is to notify bar1 upstream, and if they don't make a solution (usually because debian/ubuntu not having the new library versions yet), then make a custom patch, or if there are only a few users, and/or a dead upstream, drop the package, which has a (high) chance to resurrect in the AUR. Just bringing up an example search for gnome at the forums around 2011-04 and a few months forth. Dozens of people wanted back the old Gnome 2 (including myself), whined (not me), but to no avail. All the answers were all no. Arch is not going to support (or even ship) packages that are out-of-date. The current solution is to use the since-developed MATE and Cinnamon derivatives. But I'm just a user, and these are my thoughts, not completely matching the arch developers' ones. -- Temlin Olivér

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[arch-general] Package management
by Kalrish Bäakjen 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Hello, Before starting, I'd like to remind that we're all humans, so we can discuss these ideas politely and making use of nothing more than reason. I am NOT a pedantic person looking to impose my will; please, excuse me if you feel I'm doing it. I hope this turns into an interesting conversation, and not into an unjustified battle, as it too often does. Recently, I realized I was not using Arch in the way it was "intended"; I was building most of the packages of my system, much "a la Gentoo", with modified PKGBUILDs and a local repository. While it worked with no major inconveniences, I started looking for truly source-based distros, and found Gentoo. However, I disliked some parts about it. This is my attempt at taking what I consider to be "good" ideas to Arch. **Binary packages are right** It is possible to either build packages by yourself, and then store them for later use, or directly take them in prebuilt form. This is specially useful when time matters or when the machine is unable to build things (in my case, I broke a laptop, and it seems it was because of overheating). **Versioning** If I have understood it right, Gentoo makes it possible to have several versions of the same package through "slots". Consider the following scenario in Arch: bar1 -> libfoo-1.0 bar2 -> libfoo-1.0 `libfoo´ is updated to 2.0. `bar2´ catchs up, but `bar1´ does not. Thus, updating `libfoo´ to the latest version would break `bar1´, but is necessary for `bar2´. The solution I've seen is adding the major version number in the package name (e.g. "gtk2", "freetype2"), which would turn the older version of `libfoo´ into `libfoo1´. I think, however, that we could implement Gentoo's "slots", and add the concept of "alternatives". That way, there would be PKGBUILDs for both versions of the library, each with the same name but different version. Each library would be installed as, say, "/usr/lib/libfoo-${pkgver}.so", and an additional script for handling of the named "alternatives" could then create a symlink at /usr/lib/libfoo.so pointing to the right version _if needed_. The script would exist in a per-package basis, so there would only be one for both versions of `libfoo´. For example: $ alternatives-manager libfoo --choose 2.0 ln -s /usr/lib/libfoo-2.0.so /usr/lib/libfoo.so (The name and syntax is just an example.) This is easier to understand with libraries. With programs, however, it's more difficult; someone could want to install different versions of the same program, or, more likely, an outdated version (a typical case would be GNOME 2). We could add "-${pkgver}" to the name of the binaries in such cases, and then use alternatives to create convenient symlinks. It would be horrible to have "cp-8.9.2" and the like. Packages that could benefit from this are freetype, python, and I guess every library out there. It would be, however, hard to implement. **Package selection** When pacman finds several versions of the same package in various repositories, it fetches the one in the prevalent repo. This implies that, if I've configured my local repository before the official repos, I will never notice that a package has been updated. I'll have to do `pacman -Ss pkg-that-ive-compiled´ to check if there's a newer version, or track each project by myself. I think that, if pacman finds itself in the described situation, it should prompt to ask which package to install, unless --noconfirm is passed, in which case it should stick with the default. [If I do `pacman -S repo/pkg´, however, pacman should have no problem in choosing the package, and it shouldn't ask.] These were all the ideas. If you haven't understood something, please ask. Thanks, Kalrish

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[arch-general] Default value of "j" in makeflags of makepkg.conf
by Mark Lee 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Salutations, I was wondering if we could change the default value for j in MakeFlags in makepkg.conf to "-j$(nproc)". This would allow makepkg to scale the number of threads per pc as default. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] MAKEFLAGS remodelation
by Kalrish Bäakjen 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Hello, Some projects (e.g., mpv, in community) are moving from Autotools to other build systems. I think we should create a JOBS variable indicating the number of parallel jobs, leaving MAKEFLAGS for make-specific options. We could also implement SCONSFLAGS, WAFFLAGS,… although that may be a bit premature. The reason behind this is that a given build system might not understand "-j N". (And, also, for SCons projects, the "-Q" flag could be desired.) In the proposed model, each PKGBUILD would appropiately tell the build system how many jobs to do in parallel, or ignore the setting. As an extra question, may I ask why aren't MAKEFLAGS used in official PKGBUILDs? I mean, as in: make ${MAKEFLAGS} Perhaps make automatically fetches options from the environment? Or maybe because package construction is automated in a server and other processes are running in other cores? Thanks, Kalrish

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Re: [arch-general] Default value of "j" in makeflags of makepkg.conf
by Isaac Dupree 04 Jan '14

04 Jan '14

On 01/03/2014 04:03 PM, Mark Lee wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 15:55 -0500, Isaac Dupree wrote: >> On 01/03/2014 10:37 AM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: >>> Using -j$(cpunum) is a sane default that saves a lot of time to users. >> >> I agree, but for the record, 'nice' and scheduling are no panacea in my >> experience. It's fine for CPU loads, but compilations are also >> disk-heavy (which mattered when I used a spinning disk) and sometimes >> RAM-heavy (-j8 on my pet C++ project uses 2GB of RAM, which could push >> other programs I'm using into swap). >> >> -Isaac >> >> > > Salutations, > > I got to ask why you are running make with 8 threads on a system with > only 2 GB of ram? Heh. Well, I have 8 GB of RAM, but I'm often using most of it already. $(nproc) is 8 because there are 4 cores with each with hyperthreading (Intel Core i7). The project builds roughly at the same speed on this box at anywhere from -j4 to -j8; if that generalizes to other projects and there's an easy way to count cores not hyperthreads, cores might be a better Arch default. Shrugs. There are quite a few 4GB i7 systems out there too. Quad core ARM systems are another point on the cores-to-RAM-ratio spectrum. Probably most code doesn't consume 256 MB RAM per GCC invocation. C++'s templates and lack of module system... -Isaac

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[arch-general] USB S-ATA Adapter
by Silvio Siefke 03 Jan '14

03 Jan '14

Hello, my Notebook is broken and so i buy a Adapter that i can take my Data from the Harddisk. siefke ~ $ lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0402:9665 ALi Corp. Gateway Webcam Bus 001 Device 004: ID 174c:5106 ASMedia Technology Inc. Transcend StoreJet 25M3 siefke ~ $ ls /dev | grep sd sda sda1 sda2 sdb SDB is the HDD but i can not mount and fdisk give nothing out. siefke ~ $ sudo fdisk -l [sudo] password for siefke: Disk /dev/sda: 232,9 GiB, 250059350016 bytes, 488397168 sectors Units: Sektoren of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x47a0cee0 Gerät Boot Start Ende Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda2 * 4196352 488397167 242100408 83 Linux Has someone an idea or can i forget it? Thank you for help & Nice Day Silvio

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[arch-general] Patching in PKGBUILDS
by Mark Lee 03 Jan '14

03 Jan '14

Salutations, While debugging a libva-intel-driver issue, I found that makepkg was not reporting failures to patch source files. Is there a reason behind this behavior? Regards, Mark P.S. Happy New Year! -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 110, Issue 18
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 22:33 -0500, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:39:03 +0100 > Thomas B?chler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > > Really? Who? > > Hmm, me. Intel atom here... > > > You are suggesting not changing to a sane default because some > packages > > (especially in the AUR) have crappy maintainers. That's hardly a > reason > > for anything. > > A sane default would probably be $(nproc)-1. But in general, is it a > good > idea to have calls to binaries in a config file? So far, makepkg.conf > doesn't > have anything like this. > > Happy new year, > Leonid. > Salutations, What if there is one core? What would be the output of make -j0? If makepkg.conf is to avoid binary calls, where else could this be placed? Would it be added directly to /usr/bin/makepkg as a flag that can be toggled in makepkg.conf? Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] build and test packages automatically
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 21:12 -0500, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 22.12.2013, 19:51 +0800 schrieb Guangyu Zhang: > > [?] and to show the status of all packages which is just like > > the buildd <http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/> in Debian. > > For my small repository I created a website? which lists all the > packages in the repository with a button to check the status. > It compares the version with the one in [AUR] but it could be adopted > to > check the status in CVS. > Of course it doesn?t build the packages automatically. > > Regards, > coderkun Salutations, Something similar was discussed on the Arch message board: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=159304 I have experience with building computational servers; with enough funding for operational and startup costs, I'd like to build a cluster of AMD APUs computers for quantum chemistry, Arch Linux test packaging, and automated git building. It would be like a render/compiling farm. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] Patching in PKGBUILDS
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 23:02 -0500, Mark Lee wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 04:58 +0100, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> wrote: > > > My patch command was given in the build() section of the PKGBUILD: > > > > > > build() { > > > cd "${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}"; > > > patch -Np1 -i "${srcdir}/i965_rendering.patch" > > > ./configure --prefix=/usr > > > make > > > } > > > > > > While debugging libva-intel-driver, I applied the rendering patch via > > > the PKGBUILD only to find later that it wasn't actually applied. Makepkg > > > didn't stop building the package even though it failed to apply the > > > patch. > > > > Nothing wrong with that snippet; the problem lies somewhere else. Did > > you actually watch the patch fail and makepkg continue? Are you sure > > the package you have installed came from this PKGBUILD? > > I rebuilt and installed the package from the PKGBUILD (makepkg -s -r -i) > multiple times. After finding that nothing was working, I grew > suspicious and examined the src folder of the PKGBUILD to find that the > source was not patched. Incidentally the correct code was "patch -p1 -i" > not "patch -Np1 -i". > > Regards, > Mark Salutations, Scratch that, I just checked my records and I used a lower cased "n" instead of "N". I just tried it with "patch -Np1 -i" and it works, but "patch -np1 -i" doesn't. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] FreeRDP
by Ben Hagan 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

It would appear that FreeRDP in community needs to be updated to 1.1. There is a 1.1 stable branch in their repo, and it implements some changes that make freerdp much better to use. I flagged the package as being out of date a few weeks ago, but it looks like it got unflagged. I flagged it again, hopefully emailing this list will give it some traction. If this is the wrong place for this, please forgive my noobosity and politely redirect me through the proper channels.

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[arch-general] PCRE 8.34-1 Upgrade breaks expected regex behavior for MediaWiki
by Peter Baldridge 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

Hello All, The most recent upgrade to pcre 8.34-1 seems to disallow group names starting with a digit. A quote from the PCRE news.txt [1]: > "Perl no longer allows group names to start with digits, so I have made this change also in PCRE." I found this bug report[2] on the mediawiki site that apparently has a working patch though I'll probably just downgrade until the patch is in the official package. This breaks my MediaWiki install with the following error in the httpd/error.log: >PHP Warning: preg_match(): Compilation failed: group name must start with a non-digit at offset 8 in /usr/share/webapps/mediawiki/includes/MagicWord.php on line 907 I'm not sure how Arch would handle this since it is an upstream bug. If someone needs any other info let me know. [1] http://pcre.org/news.txt [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58640 -- Pete

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[arch-general] ★ General Discussion about Arch Linux, Nicolás de la torre te dejó un mensaje...
by Nicolás de la torre 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

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[arch-general] Locale Changed
by Silvio Siefke 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

Hello, i use XFCE and when i now start i become all in english but i has write the locales in german. I not understand i do nothing make restart and now the GTK Programms in English, XFCE in English, VLC in English. siefke ~ $ cat /etc/locale.conf export LC_DATE=de_DE.utf8 export LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.utf8 export LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8 export LANG=de_DE.utf8 siefke ~ $ cat /etc/vconsole.conf KEYMAP=de-latin1 siefke ~ $ cat .bashrc | grep LANG export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 siefke ~ $ cat .xinitrc | grep LANG export LANGUAGE=de_DE.utf8 export LANG=de_DE.utf8 I really not understand why now most Programs in English. Can someone give me an advice. Thanks for help & Nice day Silvio

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[arch-general] svntogit interface issue
by Leonid Isaev 26 Dec '13

26 Dec '13

Hi, I just noticed that svntogit interface at archlinux.org is few days behind SVN. For example systemd is still listed in trunk with pkgrel=5, while [testing] has pkgrel=9. Is this a known problem? Thanks and happy holidays, -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] -Bsymbolic-functions
by Olivier Langlois 26 Dec '13

26 Dec '13

>From https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/Options.html#Options -Bsymbolic-functions When creating a shared library, bind references to global function symbols to the definition within the shared library, if any. This option is only meaningful on ELF platforms which support shared libraries. I have discovered this ld switch by seeing it offered in the alsa-lib configure script: --enable-symbolic-functions use -Bsymbolic-functions option if available (optmization for size and speed) My limited knowledge of how shared libraries work is that code refering to a 'so' function jump in a location containing a second jump to the address of the loaded symbol and this second jump instruction gets patched when the 'so' is loaded. So my understanding of the switch is that activating just go directly to the function without any indirection. Could it be interesting to make this switch standard in makepkg.conf? Has this ever been discussed in the past? The only potential problem that I can foresee with its usage is for programs 'hijacking' symbols by being preloaded first. The 2 programs that I know doing this are: trickle and glc but I am sure that there are many others.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [HEADSUP] Arch boot splash
by Genes Lists 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

On 12/22/2013 03:22 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 22.12.2013 03:11, schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi: >> Anyways, I am planning to replace gummiboot by syslinux in archiso. (but ... > Given the state of syslinux on EFI (fails to load some kernels entirely > for some people) and its lack of features (cannot chainload EFI > executables, for example), I am now very sceptical towards this. > > I've been installing arch on new systems the last couple of days - and am having great success with rEFInd - pretty straightforward and so far is working really well for me. gene

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[arch-general] build and test packages automatically
by Guangyu Zhang 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

Hello, I want to build an repository. I need a software to build and test packages automatically, and to show the status of all packages which is just like the buildd <http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/> in Debian. I have been looking for it via Google, but nothing found. Can anybody give me some advice? I also wonder what software is used by official developers to manage the main repository. Thanks, Guangyu

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[arch-general] nut UPS driver (upsdrvctl) fails to start for usbhid devices due to node perms - howto fix?
by David C. Rankin 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

Guys, As a follow-on to the thread "package: network-ups-tools what happened to it?" I have discussed the fail-to-start issue with the nut developers and the reason why nut used to just "work" in the past for usb devices, but now no longer does without additional configuration. This apparently has to do with hotplug/udev permissions on newer Linux systems. I guess this went into Arch about 12-18 months ago, because that is when nut stopped working without further configuration. After working through errors starting the latest nut from git with systemd, the problem was that /dev/bus/usb/004/002 is owned by root:root forcing nut-driver.server to fail to start. Essentially upsdrvctl could not find/connect with /dev/bus/usb/004/002 and could not find the ups usb connection. Modifying the Execstart=/usr/bin/upsdrvctl start to: /usr/bin/upsdrvctl -u root start <upsname> allowed upsdrvctl to connect, but then created the state files in /var/state/ups with root:root permission which in turn caused nut-server.service (upsd) to fail on startup. upsd could not read the device files created in the state directory and could not create the upsd.pid as it was running gid "nut". Changing gid ownership of /dev/bus/usb/004/002 to root:nut solves all problem and allows upsdrvctl, upsd and upsmon to all start and connect fine. However, there is no way for the packager to know what bus a device with install or or whether it will be plugged back into the same port each time. I would like to investigate how Arch could be changed/configured so that nut simply runs out of the box as it used to before what ever changed changed. Is there a way the packager can do this? There are articles about rolling custom udev files -- that essentially accomplish linking the device to systemd and the ups name through /etc/ups/ups.conf: http://www.kepstin.ca/blog/networkupstoolsnutandsystemd/ That too is something impossible for the packager to take into account when building the package. How do we package something like nut just works after it is installed like it used to? Essentially, what is broken is nut's ability to probe and connect to the ups device on startup due to the default device permissions. Did the usb devices used to have 0666 permissions in the past? That's the only way I can see upsdrvctl being able to probe/connect to the device right out of the box. What are the security consideration of having a usb device world writable? Could we modify the default Arch udev setup to recognize UPS devices and make these world writable by default? I don't know much about the new udev/usb logic, so I'm asking, what say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Get netctl status from C?
by Daniel Bryan 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

I run dwm with a custom C program to update the status bar. So far I can check everything without needing to exec(), e.g. through libmpd, parsing /proc/meminfo, and so on. Is there a way to interface with the netctl profile system from C? I really just want to find the currently actively profile. I pulled down the code for netctl with abs and it seems to amount largely to shell scripts that will with stuff in /sys. It doesn't look too daunting, but I'd prefer a native interface if one exists. Thanks, Daniel

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[arch-general] package: network-ups-tools what happened to it?
by David C. Rankin 14 Dec '13

14 Dec '13

Guys, Does anybody know what happened to the package "network-ups-tool" that provided UPS monitoring for CyberPower UPSs and others? I've search packages and I've searched AUR, but the only thing found was a very very old 'nutups' package in AUR that hasn't been updated in more than 2 years. I have an old PKGBUILD for network-ups-tools that I have updated to build on Arch, but it is pre systemd and still installs an init script. If network-ups-tools doesn't exists anymore, then what is a good link that describes how to correctly update the pkgbuild so it creates the needed /usr/lib/systemd/system/ entries and sets/loads the correct usbhid driver? If I have a good link/howto, I'll update it and put it in AUR. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] ArchWiki: bad rendering on Android devices
by Jakub Klinkovský 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

Hi, I've noticed some pretty bad rendering of ArchWiki on my Nexus 7 - see the screenshots in [1]. The text seems to be indented from the right side (the width is approximately the same as the floating box for "Related articles", but the problem is not limited to pages with the floating box), while the boxed messages (notes, tips, warnings, code blocks...) are rendered correctly - well, almost correctly, sometimes even the text in boxes is indented (see the warning on one of the screenshots). At first I thought that it's just my browser, but then I saw the same behaviour on other devices, different browsers etc., so this is either bug in webkit or ArchWiki. Changing the user-agent string also does not help. Can more people confirm this? Is there something that can be done on ArchWiki? [1]: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qxkdl3k7u97ljki/xvw-gFusBd -- Jakub Klinkovský (Lahwaacz)

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[arch-general] r8168 network driver
by phanisvara 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

for the last year, or 1.5 years, i've been using r8168 from [community] because at that time r8169, which is included in the kernlel, didn't work properly. i got disconnected frequently, and often LAN speed dropped to ~0. after some kernel upgrades the r8168 driver needed to be re-built, and i kept filing bugs when this happened -- as now, after i got 3.12.4-1-ARCH. in the meantime i switched back to r8169 though, and lo and behold, it seems to be working fine now. i'm wondering if this may be the case for others as well? nothing changed in my hardware, but the kernel with the r8169 driver did, and now it's working fine for me. is r8168 still needed? -- phani.

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[arch-general] The Final Cleanup
by Alexander Rødseth 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Hi, This is the current situation: * Several packages in [community] (and maybe one package in [extra]) includes .desktop files * There is a 2 years, 8 months and 14 days old bug report, opened by Thomas Dziedzic, that opens with a few well chosen words, and is followed by a lengthy discussion: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23387 * For some packages, the lack of .desktop files has been reported upstream as bugs. * For some of those bug reports, upstream has: * Responded positively, and started to provide .desktop files (very few) * Responded that they will not provide .desktop files (even when provided in the bug report) * Not responded (seems to be the common case) * Several TUs and devs has had a go at moving things forward. The current effort is pretty spread out and has a long history: * Some are trying to keep the text in the bug report up to date. * Some are maintaining a wiki page about the topic: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Removal_of_desktop_files * Some are posting comments to the bug report. * A tool for generating .desktop files has been created, named "gendesk" (I'm guilty of this, and one or more of the above). * The bug has been closed and re-opened three times * We had an Arch Desktop Project going, that was started back in 2007, but is now obsolete: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Project * Creating a TODO list has been suggested, some people are for this, others are against it. Here are the arguments so far for upstream being the ones providing the .desktop files: * It should not be the responsibility of the users * It should not be the responsibility of Arch Linux * It is increasingly common that upstream provides these * The real issue is that .desktop files should be provided by upstream Here are a few arguments against upstream being the ones providing the .desktop files: * Desktop shortcuts are not provided by upstream for other platforms, like Android, OS X or Windows (except when included in an installer) * Upstream should create the application, users should use it and packagers should make the application available to the user. This includes providing a .desktop file. * "Good luck trying to convince upstreams like dwm (and many others) to include them. IIRC the previous attempt didnt produce much either." Conclusion so far: Regardless of if it is correct that upstream should provide the .desktop files or not, the current plan is not working. TUs and devs are slow at reporting this as bugs and upstream are slow at responding. At the current rate, this will take years, perhaps decades. The current plan is not working. I think .desktop files should ideally be provided by upstream. But for cases where they are not currently being provided, we should provide them. Here are the arguments for removing .desktop files from packages (or not having them in the first place): * Arch Linux has vanilla packages, so we should try to avoid including files that are hand-crafted by packagers * It clutters the repository * Including .desktop files is basically the same as patching. And this quote: "Patching only occurs in extremely rare cases, to prevent severe breakage in the instance of version mismatches that may occur within a rolling release model." from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux * In all other connections, it is bad form to check in files to the repository that can otherwise easily be generated (like Makefile.am files, for instance) * Packages should be defined with as few text files as possible. Ideally just one PKGBUILD file. Here are the arguments for keeping .desktop files in packages: * If the existing ones are okay, there is no point in changing them * Upstream should fix them (this does not seem to be happening / this is happening at a rate that is too slow) I think .desktop files should not be kept in the packages, but either be provided by upstream or being generated by a tool. Here are the arguments for generating the .desktop files with a tool like "gendesk": * There is much duplication of code by having one .desktop file per (GUI) package * If the .desktop specification should change in the future, there is only one tool that has to be changed, not bazillions of little .desktop files * If there should be alternative ways of providing desktop shortcuts in the future, possibly for other desktop environments, the transition will be easier * It's more elegant than including manually crafted files everywhere * It provides one consistent look of .desktop files and avoids problems (for instance, one hand crafted (or upstream provided?) .desktop file used Terminal=1 instead of Terminal=true, which caused problems). Generated files are consistent, which avoids problems. * gendesk is already being used for several packages (and has been used for a while), and it seems to work fine * Many files are generating during the prepare or build process. .desktop files should be generated too. * "I've just tried gendesk and it's pretty neat actually." Here are the arguments against generating the .desktop files with a tool like "gendesk": * It is just like including base64 encoded files directly in the PKGBUILD. (no, it's not. Contrast with other build-time generated files) * It's better to just leave the current .desktop files as they are. * Generating the .desktop files does not make the packages more "vanilla". (.desktop files are inherently non-vanilla, though) * It takes a bit of work to create a package in the first place. Adding a .desktop file or not won't make a difference in the overall burden. * The functionality should rather be in makepkg. * The maintainer still needs to relate to .desktop files one way or the other I think .desktop files should be generated with "gendesk", or a similar tool. (Note that gendesk has evolved and improved quite a bit since the time when it was first introduced and commented on in the bug report). Here are the arguments for creating a TODO list: * It's time to get this done and close the age old bug report. * People can still choose to reserve their packages from being affected (simply by marking their packages as complete, for instance). * A TODO list is the appropriate method for solving this situation. * "I'm convinced TODO is more appropriate. Also I think the TODO interface (Complete/Incomplete) is better suited for this task." Here are the arguments against creating a TODO list: * Todos are things that require 100% completion ASAP for the distro to go forward I think we should have a TODO for this. Specifically, I think we should have a TODO for removing all .desktop files from our package sources. They should ideally be provided by upstream, but in the mean time, they should be generated. If there are no protests, I will, after some time (say, three days without any replies to this thread): * Create a TODO for this * Start fixing the packages (I will not fix the packages of maintainers that wish to reserve themselves from this, of course). We all appreciate a good discussion, but before replying with a flamey flame of a flaming reply, please think a minute if you have a better solution than this for achieving the goal of closing FS#23387 in the near future (not in 10 years). All the best. -- Sincerely, Alexander Rødseth xyproto / TU

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[arch-general] Patch for update-mime-info slowness
by Sébastien Leblanc 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

I am kind of annoyed by the time it takes to update the MIME database (something like two minutes on a recent i7 quad-core laptop). Until pacman has hooks/triggers, I have removed the calls to fdatasync (which are supposed to ensure that the files are truly written to disk). I prefer letting the system take care of it anyway, and I don't care much for consistency in desktop links and file associations. Y'know, it might bear the name "database", but it's not a database in the sense of a +1M row postgresql database). Anyone have an opinion on this? Am I a complete idiot in removing these calls to fdatasync? With this patch, updating takes around 5 seconds, haven't run it with a stopwatch yet. -- Sébastien Leblanc

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[arch-general] Virt-Manager Doesn't connect to localhost domain after upgrade.
by Peter Baldridge 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Hello List, I've just recently upgraded with an Syu which included an upgrade from virt-manager 0.10.0-3 to 0.10.0.-4. This update seems to have pulled libvirt-python into the mix which from what I can tell was not there before or was not a separate package. (version 1.2.0-1-x86_64). My first attempt to update failed with the warning: error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) libvirt-python: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libvirt.pyc exists in filesystem I moved the file to my home directory and tried to install again. Update seamed to work but when I start virt-manager, I cannot connect to the localhost libvirtd and the daemon seems to be running fine: [/var/cache/pacman/pkg 2907 $ sudo systemctl status libvirtd libvirtd.service - Virtualization daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu 2013-12-05 20:15:02 PST; 11s ago Main PID: 6466 (libvirtd) CGroup: /system.slice/libvirtd.service |-1194 /sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf `-6466 /usr/bin/libvirtd -p /var/run/libvirtd.pid Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: reading /etc/resolv.conf Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: using nameserver 192.168.1.1#53 Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: using nameserver 8.8.4.4#53 Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: using nameserver 8.8.8.8#53 Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: using local addresses only for unqualified names Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: read /etc/hosts - 2 addresses Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq[1194]: read /var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.addnhosts - 0 addresses Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke dnsmasq-dhcp[1194]: read /var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.hostsfile Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke libvirtd[6466]: XML error: Storage pool config filename '/etc/libvirt/storage/pool.xml' does not match pool name 'default' Dec 05 20:15:03 zeke libvirtd[6466]: Could not find 'ebtables' executable Wenn I click to add a new vm, I get the error: Error: 'None Type' object has no attribute '__getitem__' and cannot proceed. I'm not sure where to go from here or where else to look. The Wiki briefly mentions the python api [1] and mentions that there should be some examples to look at though I don't see them on my system. Any pointers or google key words would be appreciated. [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libvirt#Using_Python -- pete

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[arch-general] New users not automatically added to 'users' group if -g default group specified?
by David C. Rankin 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

All, In the past with arch installs, new users have always been added to the 'users' group. Now that is not being done. If I recall correctly, I have always specified that users are members of a group with the same name as the user by manually creating the group and using the useradd -g <group> option. This was done to keep UID and GID numbers the same across multiple boxes. On older installs all users were made part of the users group: (July 2011 install) [08:31 nirvana:/etc/httpd/conf] # grep users /etc/group users:x:100:david,anna,blah,blah,blah (New install) [08:45 phoinix:/etc] # grep users /etc/group users:x:100: Is this expected behavior, or has something gone wrong with the install? I ask because https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cron#Users_and_autostart suggest that all users should already be members of the 'users' group. I don't mind manually adding the users, but if this is a bug, I'll report it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Fwd: Notebook freeze and slow when copy big files to external usb
by Maykel Franco 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Hi, I when I make a copy of a large file to a 2GB or 8GB usb 3.0 external hard drive, I notice that arch remains slow, frozen ... He struggles to open windows are minimized. I have the kernel: 3.12.2-1-ARCH Update the whole system to the last. Can you think because it can be? I also went from the 3.11 kernel However, debian, ubuntu, opensuse me not pass this ... It's happened to someone else? Thanks for everything.

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[arch-general] Fwd: Problem with kvm + virt-manager
by Maykel Franco 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Hi, I'm spanish. I love archlinux. I used debian, opensuse, ubuntu, fedora, linux mint, fuduntu, gentoo and I like arch above all. I will install kvm in arch. I follow this guide: http://blog.desdelinux.net/instalar-y-configurar-qemu-kvm-en-arch-linux/ I have installed vmware workstation and virtualbox and works very well. But in kvm, when I create de VM I receveid this error: Imposible completar la instalación: 'Error interno: el proceso ha finalizado mientras se conectaba con el monitor: qemu-system-x86_64: -drive file=/home/maykel/archlinux-2013.10.01-dual.iso,if=none,id=drive-ide0-1-0,readonly=on,format=raw: could not open disk image /home/maykel/archlinux-2013.10.01-dual.iso: Permission denied ' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/asyncjob.py", line 100, in cb_wrapper callback(asyncjob, *args, **kwargs) File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py", line 1920, in do_install guest.start_install(False, meter=meter) File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/Guest.py", line 1134, in start_install noboot) File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/Guest.py", line 1202, in _create_guest dom = self.conn.createLinux(start_xml or final_xml, 0) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 2897, in createLinux if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virDomainCreateLinux() failed', conn=self) libvirtError: Error interno: el proceso ha finalizado mientras se conectaba con el monitor: qemu-system-x86_64: -drive file=/home/maykel/archlinux-2013.10.01-dual.iso,if=none,id=drive-ide0-1-0,readonly=on,format=raw: could not open disk image /home/maykel/archlinux-2013.10.01-dual.iso: Permission denied I probed solution in google but not found... Can I help me please?? Is a bug of the virt-manager?? And now, I updated the system and I have bug in the virt-manager: maykel-arch /home/maykel :( # pacman -Q virt-manager virt-manager 0.10.0-4 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/37990 Thanks in advanced.

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Re: [arch-general] lz4 need add man doc
by Sébastien Luttringer 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

On 04/12/2013 06:53, Yi Zheng wrote: > Hi Luttringer, > > I checked the source pkg of lz4, and found that there is a man page > file named "lz4.1" available. But your PKGBUILD script do not install > it into the pkg. > > Do you think it is necessary add that doc? > Hi Zheng, Please use our bug report system[1] next time. [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://www.seblu.net GPG: 0x2072D77A

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[arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off
by David C. Rankin 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Guys, On my 1st boot after install of a new Arch box, the monitor would go to sleep in text mode. (monitor power light goes to yellow indicating sleep and screen goes black (off), not just blank) I thought that was a great trick, since normally, the screen just blanks, but the monitor doesn't really go to sleep (monitor power indicator on). Mouse movement (gpm) or key stroke would wake the monitor up as expected. After configuring the box (nothing related to display) on the next boot, the screen will blank, but not go to sleep (monitor power light remains on and screen goes blank, but not black (off)) I can't figure out what I could have done to alter anything related to the display. (configuration was to mysql, httpd, named, dhcpd, samba, etc....) What controls whether display powers off in text mode and what can I check for in journalctl to help figure this out? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] apache 2.4
by Caleb Cushing 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

I'm just curious as to why we're still on apache-2.2, at one point I think I assumed it was a php thing, but php-5.5 got lauched a bit ago and I can think of at least one php application I tried to run which wouldn't work on it, so that's probably not it. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=xenoterracide%40gmail.com&ctz=Ame…

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Re: [arch-general] arch rollback machine
by Sébastien Luttringer 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

On 02/12/2013 11:12, archlinux(a)jelmail.com wrote: > >> I added a new *packages* tree. That offer an easy access to all versions >> of the same package in the ARM. >> Documentation[1] has been updated. >> > Hello Sébastien, > > It's great that we have ARM again - thank you for your good work to > provide this service. > > Would it be possible to add an "all" directory beneath the "packages" > tree root that contains all versions of all packages? > Having that would be a direct replacement for what the old arm had and > would allow getting any version of any package with the same pacman.conf > server string. Hello, I splited up to avoid listing of all packages and all versions for each request to this page. I may create a static page with all the links if this is necessary to have a ctrl+f feature in your browser. Is that you are looking for? -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer https://www.seblu.net GPG: 0x2072D77A

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[arch-general] [BUG]terminus-font
by Bill kolokithas 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

The .install file for the package is wrong, making the font unusable by applications that look on X fontpath. A bug has been opened since 26 May 2013 with more info and a proposed fix. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/35479 I also sent an email to the maintainer and last packager on November 9th, but no reply yet. I'm writing here so maybe more developers see it.

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[arch-general] libpng 1.6.7 broken?
by Simon Perry 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Hi all, This following is an example of a thumbnail generated on a forum I help run. This image: http://i.imgur.com/XxaSVKa.png - Works in Firefox 25.0.1 on Windows 7 - Works in Chrome 31.0.1650.57 m on Windows 7 - Works in IE 10 on Win 7 - Works in the Win 7 photo viewer - Works in Firefox for Android - Works in Chrome for Android - Broken in Firefox 25.0.1 on Arch - Broken in Chromium 31.0.1650.57 on Arch - Broken when trying to load it into gpicview, The GIMP etc on Arch. >From what I can tell from here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/d20d499b219f/media/lib… Firefox 25.0.1 for Windows appears to be built statically against libpng 1.5.17. Any advice on where to report this, or what the best course of action is? If any of the devs have reported bugs to the libpng guys before, then I'd appreciate some help. Cheers. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

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[arch-general] Segfault in Pool according to dmesg
by Mark E. Lee 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Salutations, I was looking through my dmesg log and found a strange error: pool[2129]: segfault at 8 ip 00007fbddb60b1b5 sp 00007fbd87ffec40 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3800.2[7fbddb5a8000+fe000] My Arch Linux (64 bit) still starts up and runs fine. I have glib 2.38.2-1 and lib32-glib 2.38.2-1 installed. Any clue as to what that error is caused by? Regards, Mark -- Mark E. Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 110, Issue 1
by Mark E. Lee 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

-- Mark E. Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 17:14 -0500, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > On 30/11/2013 17:54, Mark E. Lee wrote: > > pool[2129]: segfault at 8 ip 00007fbddb60b1b5 sp 00007fbd87ffec40 > error > > 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3800.2[7fbddb5a8000+fe000] > > A one line error log is a bit short don't you think? Why don't you > give > us more context? Have you searched the web? I found at least one old > issue that could give a clue about what's happening. > > You should provide those informations right away. We shouldn't have to > ask for this. > > Tim Salutations, That's the only error I got and it didn't appear upon reboot. It didn't have any discernible effect on the system. I also searched for the issue on the web and didn't find any information (the word "pool" is a very common word). Thanks for the response though. Regards, Mark

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[arch-general] changing default target to multi-user when no X - any benefit?
by David C. Rankin 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

Guys, After fresh install and rebuild of an Arch server with systemd, would it make any difference to change the systemd default target to multi-user? There is no X, so I'm not sure what difference, if any, it would make, or if it is simply semantics at that point. Looking, all I have under systemd/system is multi-user.target.wants and getty.target.wants. Does having the systemd default target set to graphical in this case do anything that wouldn't be done if the default were changed to multi-user? Here it just looks like the old case where you have 'id:5:initdefault:' in inittab, but no X, so the system just looks for some gui displaymanager to load, doesn't find it, and drops to console. The wiki [[Systemd#Change_current_target]] discussed changing the default, but does not explain what is being done besides changing a symlink to /etc/systemd/system/default.target. Being new to systemd on Arch, I just want to make sure I am not biting myself by leaving the default as graphical when in fact I'm just booting into multi-user. What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Sorting by subject makes Evolution crash
by Ralf Mardorf 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Hi :) Evolution crashes if I sort mails by subject. I got the obligatory reply at the Evolution mailing list, that usually other users get, when having an issue with Evolution. "It should be the fault of the distro", in my case Arch Linux. I don't think so, however, can anybody sort mails by subject with an up to date Arch Linux install? Reporting the bug to upstream seems to be useless. Perhaps something is broken for Arch or my Arch install only. Regards, Ralf -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> To: evolution-list(a)gnome.org Subject: Sorting by subject makes Evolution crash - Was: [Evolution] "Reply to Sender" does same thing as "Reply to All" Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:05:15 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.10.2 On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 08:05 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 13:37 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 13:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 12:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > However, Evolution does change it's behaviour with each upgrade to > > > > current stable versions of it's dependencies from upstream > > > Either stop spreading FUD, or be way more exact. > > The issues do change, > > Of course they change; releases done to include changes. > > > at the moment it's annoying for me that Evolution > > crashes when I try to sort by subject. > > Something in your distributions is *seriously* broken. That is not > Evolution. I have not seen Evolution crash for a very long time; and I > *use* it every single day for 8+ hours. > > > I'm serious and not trolling. What distro does provide a stable > > Evolution? > > openSUSE. At least it is entirely stable for me, on my hardware. > > > It's in the mail header, but FWIW, the version is 3.10.2 on a 64-bit up > > to date Arch Linux, IOW every dependency should be the current stable > > release from upstream. I don't remember when the issue started, but it > > seems to be one of the issues that appeared after upgrading other > > software, IOW seemingly something from the dependency chain. > > Of course, everything of significance is built on a dependency chain. > It is a problem when people believe it is OK to just willy-nilly upgrade > random parts of that chain. That component W is a stable release does > not mean that X, Y, and Z will run using it without issue; X, Y, and Z > may need to be updated to reflect changes in W. Or at least QC needs to > occur. > > Anyway, again, 3.8.x was stable for me, and 3.10.x is stable for me. I > sort, and search, and read, and send... all day long. Neither Arch Linux nor I do willy-nilly upgrade something, but I will forward this to Arch general mailing list. I'm using Linux only for more then 10 years. Suse isn't an option for my needs. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] vsftpd build option --- why not support tcp_wrappers?
by Yi Zheng 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

Hi, Piotrowski, Do you think it is necessary to add native tcp_wrappers support for VSFTPD? I do not use xinetd, and want restrict FTP accessing by IP. I have checked the current PKGBUILD script, and found currently no tcp_wrappers support available. Do you agree with me ? >From here, https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/FAQ.txt Q) Help! Does vsftpd support IP-based access control? A1) Yes. vsftpd can integrate with tcp_wrappers (if built with this support). It is enabled with the setting "tcp_wrappers=YES". A2) Yes. vsftpd can be run from xinetd, which supports tcp_wrappers integration.

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[arch-general] dmraid package - continued upstream or to move to mdraid?
by David C. Rankin 26 Nov '13

26 Nov '13

All, tpowa, As of approximately 8-12 months ago, I was under the impression that upstream dmraid would not continue and that dmraid functionality would move into mdraid. (maybe that was just an arch plan?) Early in the discussion on this list it was noted that not all existing dmraid chipset support was included in the mdraid package. <quote> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > Is there planned support for existing nvidia based dmraid arrays in Arch, I can only speak for myself, but to the best of my knowledge no Arch devs use dmraid, and upstream appears to be dead. Based on that I'd say the best choice would be to move away from dmraid if you can. <snip> -t </quote> I am at the point where I need to rebuild an arch server and must decide whether to continue with dmraid or move to mdraid. Looking at the current dmraid package 10/30/13 by tpowa (https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/dmraid/) dmraid is still in core. The redhat list makes no reference to dmraid not continuing, so I'm a bit confused about the earlier discussion. At this point is there any information to suggest that dmraid will go away? Also, anyone have negative experience with dmraid and grub2 or dmraid and systemd? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] GDB does not work, sometimes
by Rodrigo Rivas 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

Hi! I'm having a very weird problem with gdb. I hadn't used the debugger for some time, so I'm not sure for how long it has been broken... The problem is that the debugged program does not stop in any breakpoing, exception, signal... nothing. Just as if it weren't being debugged. First I thought that it was a problem with GDB and I was ready to submit a bug report, but then... I have gdb-7.6.1-1 and that has been in the repositories for several months. Surely someone noticed if it didn't work at all for so long! So I started investigating, but how to debug a broken debugger? Long story made short: * gdb fails even with the simplest program (`int main() {}`). I even disabled the start-up stcripts with "gdb -n", no difference. * it fails with programs compiled with both gcc and clang. * it does not fail if I debug as root. * it does not fail if I debug in a VT instead of a PTY. So it looks like some kind of permission issues. Maybe something related to the recent SELinux changes? Googling around I've found that setting /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace-scope to 0 solves the issue. But it should not work this way: the idea of this key is that by default only the parent of a process can ptrace/debug it. And certainly, gdb is the parent of the processes it spawns (yes, I've checked it). Moreover, running "ptrace ls" works fine, so why not "gdb ls"? And what's the difference between a VT and a PTY? That I cannot understand. For now I can workaround with the "yama/ptrace-scope", but does anybody know what is happening? Best regards. -- Rodrigo

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[arch-general] virtualbox CPU issue / upstream has fix
by Genes Lists 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

I am seeing the same problem as reported (and fixed in 4.3.3 [1] ) of 100% CPU with Virtualbox 4.3.2. Any chance of getting the fix in the arch testing repo? [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12300 Thanks gene

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[arch-general] arch rollback machine
by Lieven Moors 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

Hi, Does anyone know what is happening with Arch Rollback Machine? The server (arm.konnichi.com) has been unavailable for more than a week now, and I'm depending on it to keep an offline machine up to date... Greetings, lieven

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[arch-general] Anyone has the skill to create a ArchLinux Logo render
by Brock.Zheng 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Hi, I found a beautiful wallpaper in Unbuntu: http://www.linuxeden.com/upimg/allimg/131114/254-1311140Z412.jpg Anyone has the skill & art taste to render the Arch version? any interesting & comments? -- Brock Zheng <goodmenzy(a)gmail.com> 郑祎 Software Enginner

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[arch-general] Initramfs fallback render
by Ismael Bouya 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Hi all, I have always learnt that it was good practice (to use sudo instead of root su and), when we use sudo, to completely disable root login (by disabling his password). However when we need to boot into "fallback mode", initramfs asks for root password! Is there a standard/automated way to ask/permit another user via initramfs in Archlinux? If not, how do you deal with that usually? Thanks in advance for your response! Regards, -- Ismael

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Dropping bluez4
by Andreas Radke 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Am Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:28:56 +0200 schrieb Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no>: > Hi guys, > > Once pulseaudio and bluedevil moves out of [testing], the only > official package depending on bluez4 will be blueman. > > As blueman was last released two years ago, and last upstream activity > was more than one year ago and that bluez4 is no longer developed > upstream at all, I suggest dropping both of them from the > repositories. > > Any objections? > > Cheers, > > Tom > I've done some work and research on bluez lately. I can confirm my adapters to work with bluez 5.10 and gnome-bluetooth (connecting to headset + smartphone) that has already moved to extra. I couldn't make it work with kde+bluedevil that is in testing. Also it seems not possible to use plain bluetoothctl to pair (works sometimes)/connect(never working here) your device and use plain alsa/obex. This is an annoying situation for any other desktop apart from Gnome. Blueman is broken and for many users not even starting. No idea about our networkmanager bluetooth support. Fedora 20 has switched over to only use bluez v5, OpenSuSE is also using it. We should search further how to solve kde and plain console situation. Is Bluez4 still required to use with obexd? If not we can drop it and focus on improving bluez5 support. Best would be to get bluez connecting to devices from console or/and to have a desktop independent frontend like this approach: http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2013-July/030408.html -Andy

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[arch-general] Sourcing /etc/rc.conf in configs and .install scripts
by Karol Blazewicz 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

I noticed a few configs and .install scripts mention /etc/rc.conf (mostly it's just '. /etc/rc.conf'), even though initscripts are not supported anymore. For example locale.sh from filesystem package has elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then LANG=$(. /etc/rc.conf 2>/dev/null; echo "$LOCALE") fi Should I open a bug report for this?

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[arch-general] Should outdated changelogs be removed from the packages?
by Karol Blazewicz 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Should outdated changelogs be removed from the packages? I'm guessing that this was the reason for removing the changelog from parcelite: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/37105 https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/commit/trunk?h=packag… htop's changelog has been removed earlier: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=package… even though it wasn't outdated, probably because the maintainer didn't want to maintain it anymore.

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[arch-general] selinux groups not working
by piruthiviraj natarajan 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

I am trying to install selinux on my system from Timothee's repos. But I am only able to install package group "selinux" but the *selinux-system-utilities, **selinux-userspace, **selinux-policies* and *selinux-extras* package groups doesn't seem to be working. [root@arch ~]# pacman -S selinux-system-utilities selinux-userspace selinux-policies selinux-extras error: target not found: selinux-system-utilities error: target not found: selinux-userspace error: target not found: selinux-policies error: target not found: selinux-extras [root@arch ~]# I know I can install from AUR but I was of the expectation that this should work from the http://repo.siosm.fr/$repo/ repos.

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[arch-general] linux-firmware upgrade altered grub
by Anthony Campbell 08 Nov '13

08 Nov '13

My laptop has dual boot with Arch and Debian. I normally have it set so that it defaults to booting Arch. After an upgrade yesterday which I'm pretty sure included linux-firmware I found that boot reversed the order and there were some other unwanted effects too. I reinstalled grub and grub.cfg and things went back to normal. Is this something to expect after such an upgrade? Is it documented somewhere? -- Anthony Campbell - ac(a)acampbell.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

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[arch-general] can't locally sign Siosm key selinux
by piruthiviraj natarajan 07 Nov '13

07 Nov '13

Hi *Timothée Ravier*, I tried locally signing your key. But this is what I get pacman-key --lsign-key C8D83B6AE4B8685A7290545FDB27818F78688F83 -> Locally signing key C8D83B6AE4B8685A7290545FDB27818F78688F83... ==> ERROR: C8D83B6AE4B8685A7290545FDB27818F78688F83 could not be locally signed. But adding the key was sucessful. pacman-key --add /home/archie/Downloads/siosm_gpg.pub ==> Updating trust database... gpg: next trustdb check due at 2014-01-22 I am not sure how to do this. I read your links but coudn't get around it.

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Re: [arch-general] systemd --test
by Wayne S 05 Nov '13

05 Nov '13

At 11/4/2013 10:43 AM, you wrote: >On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Wayne S <linux(a)zuik.net> wrote: >> my apologies for improperly sending email to list. >> >> My question is how to properly use systemd --test: >> >> From the website: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/ >> >> It suggests to run this to see what would execute on boot for a unit: >> >> # systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target >> >> If I run this as root, I get command not found. So it is not in $PATH. >> >> If I run as root I get don't run as root: >> >> # /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target >> Don't run test mode as root. >> >> If I run as user, I get a bunch of errors: >> >> $ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target >> systemd 208 running in system mode. (+PAM -LIBWRAP -AUDIT -SELINUX -IMA -SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ) >> Failed to set hostname to <arch-t3400>: Operation not permitted >> Failed to open /dev/tty0: Permission denied >> Failed to create root cgroup hierarchy: Permission denied >> Failed to allocate manager object: Permission denied >> >> Is there a way to use this command properly? >> >> Wayne > >I'm not a systemd guru, but try 'systemctl list-dependencies multi-user.target'. Thanks, I did run that command but did not see, for instance, shorewall, in the list. Also '$man systemd' says --test can be used to "determine startup sequence, dump it and exit." for debugging purposes. Perhaps this can only be used during an actual system boot on the boot loader command line? Wayne

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Re: [arch-general] systemd --test
by Karol Blazewicz 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Wayne S <linux(a)zuik.net> wrote: > my apologies for improperly sending email to list. > > My question is how to properly use systemd --test: > > From the website: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/ > > It suggests to run this to see what would execute on boot for a unit: > > # systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target > > If I run this as root, I get command not found. So it is not in $PATH. > > If I run as root I get don't run as root: > > # /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target > Don't run test mode as root. > > If I run as user, I get a bunch of errors: > > $ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target > systemd 208 running in system mode. (+PAM -LIBWRAP -AUDIT -SELINUX -IMA -SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ) > Failed to set hostname to <arch-t3400>: Operation not permitted > Failed to open /dev/tty0: Permission denied > Failed to create root cgroup hierarchy: Permission denied > Failed to allocate manager object: Permission denied > > Is there a way to use this command properly? > > Wayne I'm not a systemd guru, but try 'systemctl list-dependencies multi-user.target'.

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[arch-general] systemd --test
by Wayne S 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

my apologies for improperly sending email to list. My question is how to properly use systemd --test: >From the website: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TipsAndTricks/ It suggests to run this to see what would execute on boot for a unit: # systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target If I run this as root, I get command not found. So it is not in $PATH. If I run as root I get don't run as root: # /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target Don't run test mode as root. If I run as user, I get a bunch of errors: $ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target systemd 208 running in system mode. (+PAM -LIBWRAP -AUDIT -SELINUX -IMA -SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ) Failed to set hostname to <arch-t3400>: Operation not permitted Failed to open /dev/tty0: Permission denied Failed to create root cgroup hierarchy: Permission denied Failed to allocate manager object: Permission denied Is there a way to use this command properly? Wayne

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[arch-general] SELinux packages status update
by Timothée Ravier 03 Nov '13

03 Nov '13

Hi, I've updated all the SELinux related packages in the AUR. I've changed most packages names to better fit with upstream names and AUR naming policy (selinux-pam -> pam-selinux; selinux-usr-libselinux -> libselinux). I'll keep the old ones a week or two, just in case, then I'll ask for deletion. I've only tested those packages in SELinux _disabled_ mode as currently there aren't any usable policy. I'll be working on this from now on. Status of core packages that requires patches or rebuild: * linux: rebuild. bug opened in the Arch bugtracker; * coreutils: rebuild (links with libselinux); * cronie: rebuild '--with-selinux' flag; * findutils: need SELinux patch, can be upstreamed, but is upstream still alive ? * openssh: rebuild '--with-selinux' flag; * pambase: configuration changes to add pam_selinux.so; * pam: rebuild '--enable-selinux' flag for Linux-PAM, patch for pam_unix2, which only removes a function already implemented in a library elsewhere. Is there an upstream here? I couldn't find one; * psmisc: small patch, already upstream. Will be in version 22.21; * shadow: rebuild '-lselinux' and '--with-selinux' flags; * sudo: rebuild '--with-selinux' flag; * systemd: rebuild '--enable-selinux' flag; * util-linux: rebuild '--with-selinux' flag; Total: 1 rebuild as-is, 8 rebuild with additional flags/config, 3 rebuild with patches required (with one already upstream and two potentially dead upstream). I think this looks good! Suggestions for packages are welcomed as AUR comments or issues on GitHub: https://github.com/Siosm/siosm-selinux A repository with signed packages for x86-64 only is available at http://repo.siosm.fr/siosm-selinux/ (See https://tim.siosm.fr/repositories/ if you need instructions or GPG public key). I'll also update the Arch Wiki SELinux page soon. I'll setup an other repository for the SELinux policy as soon as I have something which can boot in enforcing mode. Cheers, Tim

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[arch-general] Revisit official SELinux support
by Karol Babioch 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Hi, I'm wondering whether there was ever an actual discussion regarding the SELinux support within Arch. I could only find a bug report from September 2012 (see [1]), which was closed by Dave Reisner with kind of a lame comment: "A million times no.". After having dealt with SELinux on a couple of occasions I think that it is real security enhancement worth the initial hassle of setting it up properly (at least in a server environment). Looking into the support for SELinux in Arch I think it is way too messy to be actually used in practice (see [2]). I wouldn't go so far to suggest to enable SELinux by default as proposed in the bug report mentioned above, but I think it would actually make sense to support it - more or less - officially. I'm thinking about a model similar to the one implemented by Debian (see [3]). It basically comes down to installing some default policies and enabling SELinux by running a script. This would, however, require at least the stock kernel to have support for SELinux built-in by default. Are there any technical reasons for this not being the case already? I don't want this to become a discussion about the pros and cons of SELinux (on a desktop system) in general. I'm just wondering whether it would be feasible to implement "official" support for SELinux within Arch. So, if possible, please keep it technical. Best regards, Karol Babioch [1]: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31448 [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SELinux [3]: https://wiki.debian.org/SELinux/Setup

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[arch-general] mplayer2 deprecation
by kendell clark 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

hi all Since mplayer2 has been deprecated and moved to the aur, i've been trying to find another console video player that will play videos in full screen. I've tried mplayer and mpv, neither of which seem tow work. Browsing the arch wiki, I see I need kms enabled, so have set radeon.modeset=1 in my grub config file, and added radeon to the modules section of mkinitcpio.conf. After this, videos play, but only after adding fbdev2 to mplayer's config file, and only in a small box on screen, it won't stretch. Can anyone help me find a video player that will work? I have vlc for x, but I don't launch x that often. For now, I've used downgrade to install mplayer2 and it's old version of libquvi. I'll attach my .mplayer/config file for reference. Please note that when I'm using mplayer2, I don't select a video driver, mplayer picks the one that works, so I'm not at all sure which one ut's using. My system has an ati radeon hd4200 graphics card with the xf86-vide-ati package for x. I have no special configuration in x, I simply installed x, xfce, and x vlc, and the videos played. I hope this helps. Thanks Kendell clark

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[arch-general] Wacom CTL480S support
by J. ~marahin M. 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Heyah. I've got an simple question: how does Arch stand with the support for Wacom graphic tablets? Especially the CTL480S version. As I lurked through the forums, it might not be supported in the Kernel yet (~ src: linuxwacom), but they also said that it should've been granted support in mid-october. So my question is - how does it really look right now (and does anyone have *any* experience with that particular model)? My first mail to the list also. ;-) Have a nice day! -- *Humanitee.pl - Hosting dla Ciebie!* <http://humanitee.pl/> Marahin ~ Homespace <http://marahin.pl/> Projectspace (3lab) <http://3lab.re/> Twitter <http://twitter.com/3labMarahin>

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[arch-general] fsck.f2fs and systemd
by Simon Perry 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Hey all, I've been experimenting with f2fs, and see that the latest version of f2fs-tools now includes an actual fsck tool (not an exit 0 bash script). See below for the output I get from systemd when it tries to run fsck.f2fs on the root filesystem. Anyway, my questions are: - Is there any way to override how systemd does its fsck? I've tried poking around and overriding systemd-fsck-root.service and systemd-fsck@.service to no avail. Any advice on this? - Should systemd always expect an fsck tool to accept that the "-a" arg works, therefore an issue for f2fs-tools upstream, or should systemd be aware of this (therefore an upstream issue for systemd). Any hints / advice appreciated. Cheers. systemd-fsck[198]: fsck.f2fs: invalid option -- 'a' systemd-fsck[198]: Error: Unknown option ? systemd-fsck[198]: Usage: fsck.f2fs [options] device systemd-fsck[198]: [options]: systemd-fsck[198]: -d debug level [default:0] -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

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[arch-general] Revisit official SELinux support
by Pablo Lezaeta Reyes 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

I noticed that you guys are discusing about SeLinux, so I find a link, maybe can by helpful in a minimal way or in the way [1] http://www.jamesthebard.net/site/archlinux-selinux-and-you-a-trip-down-the-… -- *Pablo Lezaeta*.

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[arch-general] OBS or other package build server?
by Magnus Therning 30 Oct '13

30 Oct '13

I've once again lost access to the server I use to build [haskell-core], this time it's entirely my own doing :( So I'm once again looking around to see if there are any generally available build servers, but the only one I find is OBS[1] (in particular OpenSUSE's server[2]). Does anyone on the list have experience of using OBS for building packages for Arch Linux? Would OBS scale to building and maintaining about 200 Arch Linux packages? Are there any other options out there? /M [1]: http://openbuildservice.org/ [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Don't worry about other people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you’ll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken, IBM Engineer

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[arch-general] Static libs
by Carsten Mattner 29 Oct '13

29 Oct '13

Is there still a way to statically link libraries where the recent change to remove the .a files has been completed?

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[arch-general] Replacing journal completely with syslog-ng
by Dimitris Zervas 28 Oct '13

28 Oct '13

I have to say that I really hate journalctl. But apart from that, I need syslog. Journalctl requires too much resources (I have a 512MB KVM) and some times it kicks the server out of memory. Also, there is nearly no way to parse its logs with any log analyzers, you have to do it the hackish way with "journalctl -o export" which is very heavyweight and requires a whole shell process to do so. I just want to completely disable journalctl and use syslog-ng like the good old days. Any help on how to do that? I did my h/w (googled it) but I got no helpful results... Any help appreciated! :)

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[arch-general] Abiword package
by Giovanni Scafora 27 Oct '13

27 Oct '13

Hi there, I am no longer interested in maintaining the abiword package. Is there anyone who wants to keep it?

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[arch-general] A little script to deploy dot files
by 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) 26 Oct '13

26 Oct '13

[Inspired by tomd123@bbs.archlinux.org](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134622), I have wrote a small script to deploy the dotfiles acrossing viarous hosts, may be you guys are interested to have a look. Github: https://github.com/techlivezheng/dotploy Thoughts and advices are very welcome, cause my bash skills are still need much improving, there must be some ugly workaround. Regards, Techlive Zheng

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[arch-general] ArchLinux-Arwork dropped to Aur, I adopt it and I have an idea
by Pablo Lezaeta Reyes 26 Oct '13

26 Oct '13

I addopted tha archlinux-artwork because I have a idea on how reviving a little this thin'. I want pull it to a Github server and receive artworks for the project, so that can by a little more populated, users can contribute whit fixes in gamas and others add new art I want know if already exist a place for that or I need create ir by myself and not thing, all art remain archlinux and all, I add a clear statenment on the ReadMe So I first want do ir right and ask permisison or know if already exist a place.. -- *Pablo Lezaeta *

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[arch-general] Kernel freeze on boot with kernel 3.10.x
by Nils Becker 24 Oct '13

24 Oct '13

Hello everyone, since kernel version >3.9.x (e.g. 3.10.3, 3.10.10) my system freezes during the boot. I was hoping for a fix to appear in later versions of 3.10. but as this was not the case, I am in dire need of help to debug this problem as currently I am not even getting any logs from the crash. Problem: After grub is loaded the system loads the initial ram disk and I am prompted to enter the password for my root partition. After that the system starts normally (systemd messages) and freezes at some point. The last message printed differs a little bit between boots, but it is roughly about "Mounted Config File System". The freeze is apparently a complete crash: I started a systemd rescue console on tty9 (which startup is printed out) but I cannot switch in that console after the freeze (no response on key events). Apparently the logs are not yet written to the harddisk as I can not find any entries on that boot if I startup another kernel. I would be grateful for any pointers on this issue and/or some suggestions how I can at least get a useful log from the crash to open a bug report. I am using the standard arch linux packages (at least where the bootup is involved). My system is using a raid1 with encrypted root partition. And yes, it works flawlessly if I downgrade the linux package to <3.10.x. My hardware configuration (hwinfo output) can be found under: www.ncbecker.de/pc/hwinfo I ran hwinfo with the lts-kernel. Cheers Nils

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Orphaning Wireshark
by Genes Lists 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

On 10/22/2013 03:53 AM, Guillaume Alaux wrote: > On 18 October 2013 11:48, Timothy M. Redaelli > <timothy.redaelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: ... >> >> Adopted, thanks >> Especially with the new wireshark-qt [1] effort underway - thank you for taking this on. gene [1] https://blog.wireshark.org/2013/10/switching-to-qt

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[arch-general] LVM + mdadm no longer works on boot
by Sean Greenslade 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Hi, all. I'm running a small fileserver that has three SATA drives set up in RAID5 via mdadm. That RAID holds one LVM pv which is split up into several logical volumes. This setup has worked fine in the past, but with the lastest system update my LVM partitions are not getting discovered correctly, leading to the boot hanging until I manually run "vgchange -ay". After that, the boot proceeds as normal. It would appear that the latest lvm2 package is what causes the issue. Downgrading to 2.02.100-1 boots fine, whereas 2.02.103-1 hangs. So how exactly should I proceed from here? I'm trying to understand how systemd makes it all work together, but I'm rather confused by it all. Thanks, --Sean Greenslade

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Re: [arch-general] ulogd fails to start - cannot find key `oob.in'
by Wayne S 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

update, see below to fix ulogd with NFLOG At 10/21/2013 10:17 AM, you wrote: >At 10/19/2013 09:55 AM, you wrote: >>I did a system update the other day with shorewall and ulogd installed. Now ulogd fails to start: >> >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `NFLOG' >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `BASE' >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `IP2STR' >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `PRINTPKT' >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `LOGEMU' >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <7> ulogd.c:741 cannot find key `oob.in' in stack >>Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <8> ulogd.c:1234 not even a single working plugin stack >> >>Looking at ulogd package changes shows: >> >>-plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so" >>+plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so" >> >>Comparing the difference between ULOG.so and NFLOG.so indicates that the 'oob.in' key does not exist in NFLOG but does exist in ULOG, for example: >> >># ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so >>Name: ULOG >>Config options: >> Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) >> Var: nlgroup (Integer, Default: 32) >> Var: rmem (Integer, Default: 131071) >> Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) >>Input keys: >> Input plugin, No keys >>Output keys: >> Key: raw.mac (raw data) >> Key: raw.pkt (raw data) >> Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) >> Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.prefix (string) >> Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.in (string) >> Key: oob.out (string) >> Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) >> Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) >> Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) >> Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) >> Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) >> >> >># ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so >>Name: NFLOG >>Config options: >> Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) >> Var: group (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: unbind (Integer, Default: 1) >> Var: bind (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: seq_local (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: seq_global (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: netlink_socket_buffer_size (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: netlink_socket_buffer_maxsize (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: netlink_qthreshold (Integer, Default: 0) >> Var: netlink_qtimeout (Integer, Default: 0) >>Input keys: >> Input plugin, No keys >>Output keys: >> Key: raw.mac (raw data) >> Key: raw.pkt (raw data) >> Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) >> Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.prefix (string) >> Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.ifindex_in (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.ifindex_out (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) >> Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) >> Key: oob.seq.local (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.seq.global (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) >> Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) >> Key: oob.uid (unsigned int 32) >> Key: oob.gid (unsigned int 32) >> Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) >> Key: raw.type (unsigned int 16) >> Key: raw.mac.saddr (raw data) >> Key: raw.mac.addrlen (unsigned int 16) >> Key: raw (raw data) >> >>Reverting ulogd.conf file to use ULOG instead of NFLOG, allows ulogd to run, but NFLOG is probably what is in the kernel, hence this change does log anything. >> >>Any suggestions on getting NFLOG to work? >> >>Wayne > >I found the problem with ulogd not starting. Reading through the example config: > >/usr/share/doc/ulogd/ulogd.conf > >I noticed that the /etc/ulogd.conf file from the recent system upgrade is incorrect. >Here is the corrected ulogd.conf, which was missing the IFINDEX plugin in the stack: > >[global] >logfile="/var/log/ulogd.log" >loglevel=5 >rmem=131071 >bufsize=150000 > >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so" >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_raw2packet_BASE.so" >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_IFINDEX.so" >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_IP2STR.so" >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_PRINTPKT.so" >plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_output_LOGEMU.so" > >#stack=log1:NFLOG,base1:BASE,ip2str1:IP2STR,print1:PRINTPKT,emu1:LOGEMU >stack=log1:NFLOG,base1:BASE,ifi1:IFINDEX,ip2str1:IP2STR,print1:PRINTPKT,emu1:LOGEMU > >[log1] >group=1 > >[emu1] >file=/var/log/ulogd.syslogemu > >Wayne S Update - change group to 0 [log1] group=0 Wayne S

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Re: [arch-general] ulogd fails to start - cannot find key `oob.in'
by Wayne S 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

At 10/19/2013 09:55 AM, you wrote: >I did a system update the other day with shorewall and ulogd installed. Now ulogd fails to start: > >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `NFLOG' >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `BASE' >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `IP2STR' >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `PRINTPKT' >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `LOGEMU' >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <7> ulogd.c:741 cannot find key `oob.in' in stack >Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <8> ulogd.c:1234 not even a single working plugin stack > >Looking at ulogd package changes shows: > >-plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so" >+plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so" > >Comparing the difference between ULOG.so and NFLOG.so indicates that the 'oob.in' key does not exist in NFLOG but does exist in ULOG, for example: > ># ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so >Name: ULOG >Config options: > Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) > Var: nlgroup (Integer, Default: 32) > Var: rmem (Integer, Default: 131071) > Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) >Input keys: > Input plugin, No keys >Output keys: > Key: raw.mac (raw data) > Key: raw.pkt (raw data) > Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) > Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.prefix (string) > Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.in (string) > Key: oob.out (string) > Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) > Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) > Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) > Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) > Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) > > ># ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so >Name: NFLOG >Config options: > Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) > Var: group (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: unbind (Integer, Default: 1) > Var: bind (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: seq_local (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: seq_global (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: netlink_socket_buffer_size (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: netlink_socket_buffer_maxsize (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: netlink_qthreshold (Integer, Default: 0) > Var: netlink_qtimeout (Integer, Default: 0) >Input keys: > Input plugin, No keys >Output keys: > Key: raw.mac (raw data) > Key: raw.pkt (raw data) > Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) > Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.prefix (string) > Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.ifindex_in (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.ifindex_out (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) > Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) > Key: oob.seq.local (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.seq.global (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) > Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) > Key: oob.uid (unsigned int 32) > Key: oob.gid (unsigned int 32) > Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) > Key: raw.type (unsigned int 16) > Key: raw.mac.saddr (raw data) > Key: raw.mac.addrlen (unsigned int 16) > Key: raw (raw data) > >Reverting ulogd.conf file to use ULOG instead of NFLOG, allows ulogd to run, but NFLOG is probably what is in the kernel, hence this change does log anything. > >Any suggestions on getting NFLOG to work? > >Wayne I found the problem with ulogd not starting. Reading through the example config: /usr/share/doc/ulogd/ulogd.conf I noticed that the /etc/ulogd.conf file from the recent system upgrade is incorrect. Here is the corrected ulogd.conf, which was missing the IFINDEX plugin in the stack: [global] logfile="/var/log/ulogd.log" loglevel=5 rmem=131071 bufsize=150000 plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so" plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_raw2packet_BASE.so" plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_IFINDEX.so" plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_IP2STR.so" plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_filter_PRINTPKT.so" plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_output_LOGEMU.so" #stack=log1:NFLOG,base1:BASE,ip2str1:IP2STR,print1:PRINTPKT,emu1:LOGEMU stack=log1:NFLOG,base1:BASE,ifi1:IFINDEX,ip2str1:IP2STR,print1:PRINTPKT,emu1:LOGEMU [log1] group=1 [emu1] file=/var/log/ulogd.syslogemu Wayne S

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[arch-general] Audio distro
by Ralf Mardorf 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Hi, sometimes I'm thinking about an audio distro based on Arch. I'm uncertain, if I'm really willing to spend my time to contribute to such a distro and I've got no doubts, that I don't have the skills to do it alone. I wonder, if other Arch users have this _secret_ thoughts sometimes too. IOW I neither plan to make such a distro, nor I'm sure if I've got the time to contribute or even if such a distro would make sense. Does other Arch users think about such a distro sometimes too? Again, this is just a question about "thoughts" (gedanken experiment). Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] ulogd fails to start - cannot find key `oob.in'
by Wayne S 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

I did a system update the other day with shorewall and ulogd installed. Now ulogd fails to start: Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `NFLOG' Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `BASE' Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `IP2STR' Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `PRINTPKT' Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <5> ulogd.c:375 registering plugin `LOGEMU' Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <7> ulogd.c:741 cannot find key `oob.in' in stack Sat Oct 19 08:26:01 2013 <8> ulogd.c:1234 not even a single working plugin stack Looking at ulogd package changes shows: -plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so" +plugin="/usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so" Comparing the difference between ULOG.so and NFLOG.so indicates that the 'oob.in' key does not exist in NFLOG but does exist in ULOG, for example: # ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_ULOG.so Name: ULOG Config options: Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) Var: nlgroup (Integer, Default: 32) Var: rmem (Integer, Default: 131071) Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) Input keys: Input plugin, No keys Output keys: Key: raw.mac (raw data) Key: raw.pkt (raw data) Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.prefix (string) Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.in (string) Key: oob.out (string) Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) # ulogd --info /usr/lib/ulogd/ulogd_inppkt_NFLOG.so Name: NFLOG Config options: Var: bufsize (Integer, Default: 150000) Var: group (Integer, Default: 0) Var: unbind (Integer, Default: 1) Var: bind (Integer, Default: 0) Var: seq_local (Integer, Default: 0) Var: seq_global (Integer, Default: 0) Var: numeric_label (Integer, Default: 0) Var: netlink_socket_buffer_size (Integer, Default: 0) Var: netlink_socket_buffer_maxsize (Integer, Default: 0) Var: netlink_qthreshold (Integer, Default: 0) Var: netlink_qtimeout (Integer, Default: 0) Input keys: Input plugin, No keys Output keys: Key: raw.mac (raw data) Key: raw.pkt (raw data) Key: raw.pktlen (unsigned int 32) Key: raw.pktcount (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.prefix (string) Key: oob.time.sec (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.time.usec (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.mark (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.ifindex_in (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.ifindex_out (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.hook (unsigned int 8) Key: raw.mac_len (unsigned int 16) Key: oob.seq.local (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.seq.global (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.family (unsigned int 8) Key: oob.protocol (unsigned int 16) Key: oob.uid (unsigned int 32) Key: oob.gid (unsigned int 32) Key: raw.label (unsigned int 8) Key: raw.type (unsigned int 16) Key: raw.mac.saddr (raw data) Key: raw.mac.addrlen (unsigned int 16) Key: raw (raw data) Reverting ulogd.conf file to use ULOG instead of NFLOG, allows ulogd to run, but NFLOG is probably what is in the kernel, hence this change does log anything. Any suggestions on getting NFLOG to work? Wayne

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[arch-general] Add gdbm and db to [multilib]?
by Dylan Cali 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Hey guys, The [core] packages gdbm and db are not also available in [multilib]. This has the side effect, for example, of not being able to create a 32bit Perl using perlbrew. There are versions available in the AUR (which are orphaned and need to be updated), but instead of updating the AUR versions does it instead make sense to bring these into the official [multilib], as they're fairly core libraries? Thanks, Dylan

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[arch-general] UMTS with Networkmanager
by Silvio Siefke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Hello, i has installed Arch Linux today first time. Without problems but one thing make me trouble. I need UMTS Connection for Internet and thats with my Mobile or Huawei USB. I has follow the wiki articles, but want not work. When i understand systemd Log correct then the System know my Mobile, but with NetworkManager want not work. Log: [root@archmobile ~]# dmesg | tail [ 1079.250828] option 3-6:1.1: device disconnected [ 1079.253386] option1 ttyUSB2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2 [ 1079.253452] option 3-6:1.2: device disconnected [ 1079.255945] option1 ttyUSB3: option_instat_callback: error -108 [ 1079.256302] option1 ttyUSB3: GSM modem (1-port) converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3 [ 1079.256363] option 3-6:1.3: device disconnected [ 1079.256735] qmi_wwan 3-6:1.4 wwp0s29f7u6i4: unregister 'qmi_wwan' usb-0000:00:1d.7-6, WWAN/QMI device [ 1088.376702] usb 3-6: new high-speed USB device number 18 using ehci-pci [ 1088.507048] cdc_acm 3-6:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [ 1088.509572] cdc_acm 3-6:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device [root@archmobile ~]# lsusb Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0ac8:c326 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Namuga 1.3M Webcam Bus 003 Device 018: ID 0421:0223 Nokia Mobile Phones Can someone give me a advice why the NetworkManager not want use, or Arch not want use. Thanks for help & Greetings Silvio

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[arch-general] Fwd: Re: [arch-dev-public] Plasma-NM plasmoid moved to [extra]
by Genes Lists 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

Sorry hit reply and forgot to change to arch-general - resending as I am not permissioned on arch-dev-public. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] Plasma-NM plasmoid moved to [extra] Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:43:20 -0400 From: Genes Lists <lists(a)sapience.com> To: Public mailing list for Arch Linux development <arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org> On 10/12/2013 01:22 PM, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > Hi all, > just to inform all the KDE + NetworkManager users out there that I moved > kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement to AUR. I am trying this now and it seems to be a bit buggy and not really ready for prime time. I used it to connect to local wifi - worked fine. Left my laptop and returned a couple hours later. I am still connected - and the hover pop up shows the connection and correct SSID. However clicking the applet no longer shows an active connection section. No way to disconnect. There is a previous connection (also no 'unknown connections' section) but it had nothing useful (just a connection out of my list not used for years). After a few minutes the SSID I was connected to showed up in the 'previous connections' section - with a button to 'connect'. Clicking that, the connection was killed and re-establihsed and the 'active connections' section re-appeaed with the connected SSID now visible. The unkown connection section also re-appeared. For those not yet using this you may want to wait a while until it matures more. gene >

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[arch-general] truecrypt, loop and /etc/modules-load.d/truecrypt.conf
by John Davis 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

Hello I used the wikipage to address the problem where loop module does not load. Here is the relevant page. === Failed to set up a loop device === If you get a message "Failed to set up a loop device" when trying to create/mount a TrueCrypt volume, it may be because you updated your kernel recently without rebooting. Rebooting should fix this error. Otherwise, check if ''loop'' has been loaded as kernel module: $ lsmod | grep loop If not listed, retry the TrueCrypt command after {{ic|modprobe loop}}. Should it work, consider to add ''loop'' to the modules in {{ic|/etc/modules-load.d}}: # tee /etc/modules-load.d/truecrypt.conf <<< "loop" {{Note|As of udev 181-5, the loop device module is no longer auto-loaded, and the procedure described here is necessary.}} I am using a stock kernel. I tried to use sudo to run truecrypt and it failed to setup a loop device. I did a check of lsmod output and loop was not loaded after I made the truecrypt.conf change. After I modprobe loop by hand truecrypt would work and the encrypted drive would be mounted on /mnt/truecrypt1. Is there something which needs to edited to the wiki page regarding truecrypt.conf? It does not seem to work, and it seems that manually loading the module is required. -- John F. Davis 6 Kandes Court Durham, NC 27713 919-888-8358 独树一帜

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[arch-general] How to show (kernel) messages by journalctl?
by Ralf Mardorf 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi, yesterday I rebooted at 17:51 from linux 3.11.4-1 to linux-rt 3.10.14_rt9-1 and then shut down at 17:55. How can I get log data, kernel messages of this startup? This is all I get: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ journalctl -a --since "2013-10-12 17:50:00" --until "2013-10-12 18:00:00" -- Logs begin at Wed 2013-08-28 22:06:09 CEST, end at Sat 2013-10-12 20:36:06 CEST. -- Oct 12 17:51:10 archlinux systemd[579]: Stopping Default. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ A log in for rt kernels 3.10.x doesn't work on my machine, rt kernels 3.8.x don't cause this issue. During shutdown and startup there were much more messages, than just "Oct 12 17:51:10 archlinux systemd[579]: Stopping Default." [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ journalctl -k -- Logs begin at Wed 2013-08-28 22:06:09 CEST, end at Sat 2013-10-12 20:36:06 CEST. -- JFTR there are no .xsession-errors.old for the attempt to log in. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] logwatch with postfix configuration
by jb 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi, this is my configuration: $ cat /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf mailer = "/usr/bin/postfix" Running: # logwatch --debug 5 shows the familiar output. But running: # /etc/cron.daily/0logwatch does not deliver output to root or forwarded to myself.

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[arch-general] Moving kpovmodeler and kgraphviewer to unsupported
by Laurent Carlier 12 Oct '13

12 Oct '13

I plan to move both packages to unsupported: * kpovmodeler isn't maintained upstream anymore and homepage is dead. it doesn't work anymore with upstream povray with third party patches. (see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36352) * kgraphviewer isn't maintained upstream anymore except cosmetic patches, and will not work with graphviz-2.34.0 in staging without deep changes. -- Laurent Carlier ArchLinux Developer http://www.archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] arch wiki xen installation questions
by Sean Greenslade 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

John Davis <davisjf(a)gmail.com> wrote: >There's your problem. You can't bridge wifi adapters. It needs to be >> ethernet in order for brctl to use it. >> >> If I remember correctly, this is due to wifi not being "routable," >that >> is, you cannot proxy packets destined / sourced from a MAC that is >not your >> own. >> >> --- >> --John "Sean" Greenslade >> > >Hello Sean, > >Ahh, I did not know that. I could have sworn that when I used vmware >on >windows, I was able to share the wifi connection. However, its been >such a >long time, I can't really remember. > >Does this mean that when using xen on linux, you can't use wifi >networking >for guest os's? Not entirely. There are several "tricks" you can use to get networking from wifi to a guest. VMWare (Workstation) uses NAT by default, turning your computer into a gateway router and creating a virtual bridge. This can be done in linux, just google "iptables nat". You could also (in theory, at least) pass your wifi card hardware through to the guest. It would only allow one guest to connect at a time, but this may be acceptable ib your use case, I don't know. If you need more help with Xen configuration, there is a very helpful Xen mailing list called xen-users. You'd get more Xen help there than on arch-general, I think. --- --John "Sean" Greenslade

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[arch-general] arch wiki xen installation questions
by John Davis 09 Oct '13

09 Oct '13

Hello I am trying to install xen. I am using this page as a guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xen I have a problem where I can not get the commands for setting up the networking bridge to work. During the xen installation, I noted that it uses netctl instead of netcfg. I made those changes and if I boot my regular kernel it appears to work with a wifi connection. Here is the result of some command regarding networking with regular kernel. [root@t61p ~]# netctl list xenbridge-dhcp * wlan0-hs-dlink wlan0-hs-dlink.wifi-menu [root@t61p ~]# I believe this command shows that wlan0-hs-dlink is the active profile and is enabled at boot automatically. For instance: [root@t61p ~]# systemctl | grep hs-dlink netctl(a)wlan0\x2dhs\x2ddlink.service loaded active exited Networking for netctl profile wlan0-hs-dlink [root@t61p ~]# This is a result of systemd having netctl(a)wlan0\x2dhs\x2ddlink.service in the /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants directory. So it looks ok for having networking via wifi working in regular linux kernel. As far as xen and bridge goes, I created the following file /etc/netctl/xenbridge-dhcp with the following contents: Description="Xen Bridge connection" Interface=xenbr0 Connection=bridge BindsToInterfaces=(wlan0 wlan1 tap0) IP=dhcp Basically, I used the example given on the arch xen wiki page and changed eth0 to wlan0 and eth1 to wlan1. When I try to start the xenbr0 (bridge) I get an error about tap0 not found. This is the command I issue (bascially from the wiki) and the result from journalctl # netctl start xenbridge-dhcp -- Unit netctl(a)xenbridge\x2ddhcp.service has begun starting up. Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: Starting network profile 'xenbridge-dhcp'... Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p systemd-udevd[530]: error opening ATTR{/sys/devices/virtual/net/xenbr0/address} for writing: Permissio Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p systemd-udevd[530]: error opening ATTR{/sys/devices/virtual/net/xenbr0/address} for writing: Permissio Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p systemd-udevd[530]: error opening ATTR{/sys/devices/virtual/net/xenbr0/address} for writing: Permissio Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p systemd-udevd[530]: error changing net interface name xenbr0 to eth0: File exists Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p kernel: device wlan0 entered promiscuous mode Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p dhcpcd[503]: wlan0: removing IP address 192.168.0.114/24 Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p dhcpcd[503]: wlan0: removing route to 192.168.0.0/24 Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: Cannot find device "wlan1" Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: Cannot find device "wlan1" Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: Cannot find device "tap0" Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p network[525]: Cannot find device "tap0" Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p dhcpcd[591]: version 6.0.5 starting Oct 08 19:42:45 t61p dhcpcd[591]: xenbr0: soliciting a DHCP lease Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p dhcpcd[591]: timed out Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p dhcpcd[591]: exited Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p network[525]: DHCP IP lease attempt failed on interface 'xenbr0' Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p network[525]: Failed to bring the network up for profile 'xenbridge-dhcp' Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p systemd[1]: netctl(a)xenbridge\x2ddhcp.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Oct 08 19:42:55 t61p systemd[1]: Failed to start Networking for netctl profile xenbridge-dhcp. -- Subject: Unit netctl(a)xenbridge\x2ddhcp.service has failed -- Defined-By: systemd -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel -- Documentation: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/catalog/be02cf6855d2428ba4… -- -- Unit netctl(a)xenbridge\x2ddhcp.service has failed. -- -- The result is failed. Any advice is appreciated. -- John F. Davis 6 Kandes Court Durham, NC 27713 919-888-8358 独树一帜

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[arch-general] Black screen at first boot
by Thorsten Jolitz 04 Oct '13

04 Oct '13

Hi List, since a few days (I did not change anything, no updates, nothing) the first boot of my machine results in a non-responsive black screen. I have to do a cold-start, and then the second boot works as expected. Has anybody witnessed this too? A hardware problem? -- cheers, Thorsten

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[arch-general] Way too much kworkers
by Dimitris Zervas 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hello, I've googled a bit and saw that other people have this problem too, but without solution. They had maybe 8 or 10 kworker processes. After 2 suspends, I have 172. ps -ef | grep kworker | wc -l 173 (one of the line is grep's process). Is there any solution?

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Re: [arch-general] Git
by Sebastian Schwarz 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

On 2013-29-09, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > If we were to use git, we should have one git repository per > package, and also provide one repository which includes all > the packages as submodules. Why not use one branch per package and one branch per repository with the packages as submodules instead of a repository for each package? This way all the packages would be in a single repository and could be fetched all at once or one at a time.

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[arch-general] xdm and awesomewm incompatibilty
by ashwin 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Hi, I see that xdm and awesome wm dont go well together. It used to work well before. I see after recent package update. awesome wm crashes often. After killing xdm, it is back normal again. Has anyone else experienced this ? If xdm is buggy, then can someone suggest a good login manager for X ? I see gdm brings in gnome-shell and loads of other packages which is not directly related to login manager. What i am looking for is just the login manager and its dependecies and not the entire DE. I assume kdm does the same thing. The awesome wm & xdm version in my pc is: awesome 3.5.1-3 xorg-xdm 1.1.11-4 with regards, ashwin

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[arch-general] [zfs] new problem at the installation version problem ?
by bussiere bussiere 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

I've already done a zfs installation with archlinux but this time and for the first time when i try to make a new one it doesn't seems to have load the zfs module and when i try to install it with insmod it says to me : invalid module format .... i may have just to wait that the problem will be corrected ? And i've done everything accord to the tutorial. My information contact, telephone, skills, clef pgps &co : http://bussiere.github.io/ "Les nouvelles technologies offrent plein de nouvelles possibilités, pleins de possibilités d'erreurs surtout en fait."

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[arch-general] Upgrade problem
by Phil Dobbin 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Hi, all. I'm a newcomer to Arch Linux so excuse my ignorance. I attempted to update yesterday (pacman -Syu) & I got this message at the end of the update: '(121/121) checking for file conflicts [#################################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) filesystem: /bin exists in filesystem filesystem: /sbin exists in filesystem filesystem: /usr/sbin exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.' Can anybody tell me what it means & how to go about fixing it (I've got Arch running on a VPS). Many thanks, Cheers, Phil... -- currently (ab)using Arch Linux, CentOS 5.9 & 6.4, Debian Squeeze & Wheezy, Fedora Spherical & That Damn Cat, Lubuntu 12.10, OS X Snow Leopard & Tiger, Ubuntu Quantal, Raring & Saucy GnuGPG Key : http://phildobbin.org/publickey.asc

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Git
by Karol Babioch 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Hi, Am 30.09.2013 09:51, schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase: > That is an excellent idea that I hadn't even considered yet. Arch Linux ARM is kind of doing this already, see [1]. [1]: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs Best regards, Karol Babioch

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome and Arch Issues Under VirtualBox
by Guus Snijders 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Op 30 sep. 2013 00:09 schreef "Hunter Jozwiak" <potbelliedjazz(a)aol.com> het volgende: > > I am trying to edit the xinitrc file so that when I type startx, Gnome will start. It seems that something has gone wrong with the drivers, because I get a result that I need to get information from a log file. Ok, so far so good. Startx is fairly simple, but can be confusing. I'm not that familiar with gnome, but which command starts it? Could you post the contents of $home/.xinitrc ? mvg, Guus

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[arch-general] Fwd: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch
by Delcypher 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Hi, Apparently I cannot post to arch-dev-public so I'm posting this here. This is a proposal for making separate packages for static libraries (with a patch for Boost C++ libraries as an example). Please see below... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Daniel Liew <daniel.liew(a)imperial.ac.uk> Date: 28 September 2013 14:58 Subject: Proposal for the static library problem in Arch To: arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org Hi All, I've noticed recently that there have been problems with static libraries being removed from packages. E.g. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/35257 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34491 https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2010-September/016152.… https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-March/024552.h… I've only just joined to mailing list so I couldn't find a way to reply to the emails I have never received so I thought I'd just start a new thread (apologies). I see both sides of the argument as valid: - Lots of people don't need the static libraries so why include them in packages, they are wasting space. On the other hand... - Some developers need static libraries to build their projects. In my case I needed to build a static library that has dependencies on the Boost library. I do not want unresolved symbols to Boost C++ library functions in there. I really don't think that completely removing static libraries from the repositories is the correct approach because it I believe the choice of whether or not to have static libraries on your system should be down to the user and not the distro (yes I'm aware I could compile boost myself... that's what I'm doing right now but what happened to "Keep it Simple"? If I wanted to compile loads of stuff from scratch I'd be using Gentoo). So my proposal is this: For popular packages that have can build static libraries and shared libraries, build both but put the static libraries into their own "*-staticlibs" package and the *-libs" packages should contain only shared libraries. For example for boost you would have boost : Development headers + other files boost-libs : Boost shared libraries boost-static-libs : Boost static libraries The boost package dependencies would be set to be dependent on boost-libs but **not** boost-staticlibs so the static libraries would only be installed if the user explicitly installed them. So everybody wins. Static libraries are not installed by default saving disk space but the static libraries are available as packages should the user decide they need them. Looking at the PKGBUILD syntax this looked quite trivial to do so I've done it for Boost and the patch is attached (apply against boost 1.54.0-3 PKGBUILD) Thoughts? Thanks, Dan Liew

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome and Arch Issues Under VirtualBox
by Kyle 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

Sorry, I'm not really able to help with startx stuff. It hasn't worked for me since about 2007 or so. It seems pretty involved these days to get it working. I've just been starting and stopping the display manager, which is quite easy using systemd. sudo systemctl start gdm sudo systemctl stop gdm Maybe this will help. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"

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[arch-general] Problem bringing up bridge interface with netctl
by Michael Dahlberg 30 Sep '13

30 Sep '13

I recently upgraded to systemd-207 and I'm having some problems using netctl to bring up a bridged interface during the system boot. The problem is that systemd will try and bring the bridged interface up before bringing up the actual network interface that is included in the bridge and, as a result, it times out: (From journalctl) Sep 27 23:59:34 io systemd[1]: Job sys-subsystem-net-devices-net1.710.device/start timed out. Sep 27 23:59:34 io systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device sys-subsystem-net-devices-net1.710.device. Sep 27 23:59:34 io systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Bridge Connections for VLAN710 VMs. The netctl bridge profile is Description="Bridge Connections for VLAN710 VMs" Interface=br710 Connection=bridge BindsToInterfaces=(net1.710) IP="no" The systemd service definition (netctl(a)br710.service) .include /usr/lib/systemd/system/netctl@.service [Unit] Description=Bridge Connections for VLAN710 VMs BindsTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-net1.710.device After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-net1.710.device And the profile for net1.710 is Description='VLAN 710 VMs' Interface=net1.710 Connection=vlan # The variable name is plural, but needs precisely one interface BindsToInterfaces=net1 VLANID=710 IP=no As soon as systemd times out waiting for the sys-subsystem-net-devices-net1.710 device to start, it then starts to bring up the VLAN interface (again from journalctl): Sep 27 23:59:35 io network[376]: Starting network profile 'vlan710'... Sep 27 23:59:37 io kernel: e1000e: net1 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None Sep 27 23:59:37 io network[376]: Started network profile 'vlan710' Sep 27 23:59:37 io systemd[1]: Started VLAN 710 VMs. Obviously, once I have access to the terminal I can manually bring up the bridge without problems. I seem to have an issue with the timing with which the different parts of the network interfaces are brought up. Is there a way to force systemd to bring up the net1.710 device before attempting to start the bridge? Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome and Arch Issues Under VirtualBox
by Hunter Jozwiak 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

I am trying to edit the xinitrc file so that when I type startx, Gnome will start. It seems that something has gone wrong with the drivers, because I get a result that I need to get information from a log file. I have the link here: Were 1920.266] XddOrg X Server 1.14.3 Release Date: 2013-09-12 Were 1920.267] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Were 1920.267] Build Operating System: Linux 3.11.0-a-ARCH xblehf64 Were 1920.269] Current Operating System: Linux hunterarch 3.11.2-a-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 27 07:35:36 CEST 2013 xblehf64 Were 1920.269] Kernel command line: BOOTIMAGE equals /boot/vmlinuz-linux root equals UUID equals 2d011a48-b22b-4990-a8ae-81989f8a115b rw quiet Were 1920.271] Build Date: 13 September 2013 01:28:59PM Were 1920.272] Were 1920.272] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2 Were 1920.275] Before reporting problems, check httpccwikiddx.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Were 1920.275] Markers: (-) probed, (**were from config file, (equals equals were default setting, (plus plus were from command line, (!!were notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??were unknown. Were 1920.282] (equals equals were Log file: "/var/log/Xorgdd14log", Time: Sun Sep 29 18:10:42 2013 Were 1920.284] (equals equals were Using config directory: "/etc/Xbleaa/xorgddconfddd" Were 1920.285] (equals equals were Using system config directory "/usr/share/Xbleaa/xorgddconfddd" Were 1920.286] (equals equals were No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. Were 1920.286] (equals equals were No screen section available. Using defaults. Were 1920.286] (**were -comgreater-than Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) Were 1920.286] (**were - -comgreater-than Monitor "less-than default monitor greater-than was Were 1920.287] (equals equals were No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. Were 1920.287] (equals equals were Automatically adding devices Were 1920.287] (equals equals were Automatically enabling devices Were 1920.287] (equals equals were Automatically adding GPU devices Were 1920.287] (equals equals were FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/share/fonts/Typeblea/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ Were 1920.287] (equals equals were ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" Were 1920.287] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. Were 1920.287] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20 Were 1920.287] (II) Module ABI versions: Were 1920.287] XddOrg ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 Were 1920.287] XddOrg Video Driver: 14.1 Were 1920.287] XddOrg XInput driver : 19.1 Were 1920.287] XddOrg Server Extension : 7.0 Were 1920.288] (II) itselfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) Were 1920.289] setversion 1.4 failed Were 1920.301] (-) PCICCININGG0:0:2:0) 80eeccbeefcc0000:0000 rev 0, Mem à 0xeblejjjjjjj/afgggbaf Were 1920.304] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension Were 1920.305] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE Were 1920.306] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM Were 1920.310] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension Were 1920.311] Initializing built-in extension XTEST Were 1920.312] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS Were 1920.314] Initializing built-in extension SYNC Were 1920.314] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD Were 1920.315] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC Were 1920.316] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY Were 1920.317] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA Were 1920.318] Initializing built-in extension ITSELFIXES Were 1920.320] Initializing built-in extension RENDER Were 1920.325] Initializing built-in extension RANDR Were 1920.326] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE Were 1920.326] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE Were 1920.327] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER Were 1920.328] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER Were 1920.328] Initializing built-in extension RECORD Were 1920.329] Initializing built-in extension DPMS Were 1920.329] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource Were 1920.331] Initializing built-in extension XVideo Were 1920.332] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation Were 1920.332] Initializing built-in extension ITSELFree86-VidModeExtension Were 1920.333] Initializing built-in extension ITSELFree86-DGA Were 1920.355] Initializing built-in extension ITSELFree86-DRI Were 1920.357] Initializing built-in extension DRI2 Were 1920.357] (II) "glx" will be loaded by default. Were 1920.357] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" Were 1920.357] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in Were 1920.357] (II) LoadModule: "glamoregl" Were 1920.357] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoreglddso Were 1920.360] (II) Module glamoregl: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.361] compiled for 1.14.2, module version equals 0.5.1 Were 1920.361] ABI class: XddOrg ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 Were 1920.361] (II) LoadModule: "glx" Were 1920.361] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglxddso Were 1920.362] (II) Module glx: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.362] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 1.0.0 Were 1920.362] ABI class: XddOrg Server Extension, version 7.0 Were 1920.362] (equals equals were AIGLX enabled Were 1920.366] Loading extension GLX Were 1920.366] (equals equals were Matched vboxvideo as autoconfigured driver 0 Were 1920.366] (equals equals were Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1 Were 1920.366] (equals equals were Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2 Were 1920.366] (equals equals were Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3 Were 1920.366] (equals equals were Assigned the driver to the xf86;ConfigLayout Were 1920.366] (II) LoadModule: "vboxvideo" Were 1920.367] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vboxvideoddso Were 1920.367] (II) Module vboxvideo: vendor equals "Oracle Corporation" Were 1920.367] compiled for 10.6.99, module version equals 1.0.1 Were 1920.367] Module class: XddOrg Video Driver Were 1920.367] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.367] (**were Load address of symbol "VBOXVIDEO" is 0x7f69de77b380 Were 1920.367] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" Were 1920.367] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesaoundrvddso Were 1920.367] (II) Module vesa: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.367] compiled for 1.14.0, module version equals 2.3.2 Were 1920.367] Module class: XddOrg Video Driver Were 1920.367] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.367] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" Were 1920.368] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesettingoundrvddso Were 1920.368] (II) Module modesetting: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.368] compiled for 1.14.1, module version equals 0.8.0 Were 1920.368] Module class: XddOrg Video Driver Were 1920.368] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.368] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" Were 1920.368] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdevoundrvddso Were 1920.368] (II) Module fbdev: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.368] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 0.4.4 Were 1920.368] Module class: XddOrg Video Driver Were 1920.368] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.368] (II) VBoxVideo: guest driver for VirtualBox: vbox Were 1920.368] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa Were 1920.368] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms Were 1920.368] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev Were 1920.368] (plus plus were using VT number 3 Were 1920.368] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa Were 1920.368] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting Were 1920.368] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev Were 1920.368] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" Were 1920.368] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" Were 1920.369] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhwddso Were 1920.369] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.369] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 0.0.2 Were 1920.369] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.369] (II) VBoxVideogg0): VirtualBox guest additions video driver version 4.2.18.OSE Were 1920.369] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" Were 1920.369] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" Were 1920.369] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in Were 1920.369] (II) Loading sub module "fb" Were 1920.369] (II) LoadModule: "fb" Were 1920.371] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbddso Were 1920.371] (II) Module fb: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.371] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 1.0.0 Were 1920.371] ABI class: XddOrg ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 Were 1920.371] (II) Loading sub module "shadowfb" Were 1920.371] (II) LoadModule: "shadowfb" Were 1920.372] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libshadowfbddso Were 1920.372] (II) Module shadowfb: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.372] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 1.0.0 Were 1920.372] ABI class: XddOrg ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 Were 1920.372] (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" Were 1920.372] (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" Were 1920.372] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahwddso Were 1920.372] (II) Module vgahw: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.372] compiled for 1.14.3, module version equals 0.1.0 Were 1920.372] ABI class: XddOrg Video Driver, version 14.1 Were 1920.372] (II) Loading sub module "dri" Were 1920.372] (II) LoadModule: "dri" Were 1920.372] (II) Module "dri" already built-in Were 1920.378] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/cb Were 1920.379] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): Depth 24, (-) framebuffer bpp 32 Were 1920.379] (-) VBoxVideogg0): Virtual size is 32000x32000 (pitch 32000) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBoxInitialMode": 116.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 72.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBoxInitialMode"x0.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 (72.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBoxDynamicMode": 116.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 72.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBoxDynamicMode"x0.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 (72.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBoxDynamicMode": 116.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 72.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBoxDynamicMode"x0.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 (72.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-1600x1200": 116.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 72.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-1600x1200"x0.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 (72.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-1440x1050": 91.6 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 63.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-1440x1050"x0.0 91.62 1440 1442 1444 1446 1050 1052 1054 1056 (63.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-1280x960": 74.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 58.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-1280x960"x0.0 74.54 1280 1282 1284 1286 960 962 964 966 (58.0 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-1024x768": 47.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 46.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-1024x768"x0.0 47.83 1024 1026 1028 1030 768 770 772 774 (46.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-800x600": 29.3 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 36.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-800x600"x0.0 29.31 800 802 804 806 600 602 604 606 (36.4 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (**were VBoxVideogg0): Built-in mode "VBox-640x480": 18.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 29.2 kHz, 60.0 Hz Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "VBox-640x480"x0.0 18.84 640 642 644 646 480 482 484 486 (29.2 kHz but) Were 1920.379] (II) VBoxVideogg0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp-greater-than IOBase is 0x03d0 Were 1920.379] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): RGB weight 888 Were 1920.379] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): Default visual is TrueColor Were 1920.379] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) Were 1920.379] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): DPI set to (96, 96) Were 1920.379] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" Were 1920.379] (II) Unloading vesa Were 1920.379] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" Were 1920.379] (II) Unloading modesetting Were 1920.379] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" Were 1920.379] (II) Unloading fbdev Were 1920.379] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw" Were 1920.379] (II) Unloading fbdevhw Were 1920.379] (-) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp Were 1920.398] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Were 1920.398] drmOpenDevice: open result is 12, (OK) Were 1920.399] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Were 1920.399] drmOpenDevice: open result is 12, (OK) Were 1920.399] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pcicc0000:00:02.0 Were 1920.399] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Were 1920.399] drmOpenDevice: open result is 12, (OK) Were 1920.399] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 12 Were 1920.399] drmOpenByBusid: Interface 1.4 failed, trying 11 Were 1920.399] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pcicc0000:00:02.0 Were 1920.399] (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 Were 1920.399] (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. Were 1920.399] (EE) VBoxVideogg0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. Were 1920.399] (II) VBoxVideogg0): visual configurations initialized Were 1920.400] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Requested monitor count: 1 Were 1920.400] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Output VBOX0 has no monitor section Were 1920.400] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Output VBOX0 has no monitor section Were 1920.402] (II) VBoxVideogg0): EDID for output VBOX0 Were 1920.402] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Manufacturer: VBX Model: 0 Serial#: 78644800 Were 1920.402] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Year: 1990 Week: 1 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): EDID Version: 1.3 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Digital Display Input Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Indeterminate output size Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Gamma: 2.20 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Default color space is primary color space Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): First detailed timing is preferred mode Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): redX: 0.640 redally: 0.330 greenX: 0.300 greenally: 0.600 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): blueX: 0.150 blueally: 0.060 whiteX: 0.312 whiteally: 0.329 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Supported detailed timing: Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): clock: 116.2 MHz Image Size: 0 x 0 mm Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): hactive: 1600 hlessync: 1602 hlessyncend 1604 hblankend 1606 hborder: 0 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): vactive: 1200 vlessync: 1202 vlessyncend 1204 vblanking: 1206 vborder: 0 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Ranges: V min: 0 V max: 200 Hz, H min: 0 H max: 200 kHz, PixClock max 1005 MHz Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Monitor name: VBOX monitor Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): EDID (in hex): Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 00f!!!fffff00585800004006b004 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 0100010380000078eeee91a3544c99 26 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 0f5054000000010101010101010101 01 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 010101010101652d400660b0064002 02 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 2200000000000000000000fd0000c8 00 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): c864000a202020202020000000fc00 56 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 424f58206d6f6e69746f720a000000 10 Were 1920.403] (II) VBoxVideogg0): 000a20202020202020202020202000 17 Were 1920.404] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Printing probed modes for output VBOX0 Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "1600x1200"x60.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 (72.4 kHz Pb) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "1440x1050"x60.0 91.62 1440 1442 1444 1446 1050 1052 1054 1056 (63.4 kHz but) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0 74.54 1280 1282 1284 1286 960 962 964 966 (58.0 kHz but) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 47.83 1024 1026 1028 1030 768 770 772 774 (46.4 kHz but) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "800x600"x60.0 29.31 800 802 804 806 600 602 604 606 (36.4 kHz but) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 18.84 640 642 644 646 480 482 484 486 (29.2 kHz but) Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Output VBOX0 connected Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Using exact sizes for initial modes Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Output VBOX0 using initial mode 1600x1200 Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated. Were 1920.405] (II) VBoxVideogg0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. Were 1920.407] (equals equals were VBoxVideogg0): DPMS enabled Were 1920.407] (-) RandR disabled Were 1920.416] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable Were 1920.416] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable Were 1920.451] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast Were 1920.451] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 Were 1920.451] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Setting screen physical size to 423 x 317 Were 1920.697] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/eventbled) Were 1920.698] (**were Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall" Were 1920.698] (II) LoadModule: "evdev" Were 1920.698] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdevoundrvddso Were 1920.698] (II) Module evdev: vendor equals "XddOrg Foundation" Were 1920.698] compiled for 1.14.2, module version equals 2.8.1 Were 1920.698] Module class: XddOrg XInput Driver Were 1920.698] ABI class: XddOrg XInput driver, version 19.1 Were 1920.698] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button' Were 1920.698] (**were Power Button: always reports core events Were 1920.698] (**were evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/eventbled" Were 1920.698] (-) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1 Were 1920.698] (-) evdev: Power Button: Found keys Were 1920.698] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard Were 1920.698] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/LNXSYSTMCCBLEJJ/LNXPWRBNCCBLEJJ/INPUT/INPUTBL ED/ENCEVENTBLED" Were 1920.698] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 6) Were 1920.698] (**were Option "xkbrules" "evdev" Were 1920.698] (**were Option "xkbmodel" "pc104" Were 1920.699] (**were Option "xkblayout" "us" Were 1920.745] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Sleep Button (/dev/input/event5) Were 1920.745] (**were Sleep Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall" Were 1920.745] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Sleep Button' Were 1920.745] (**were Sleep Button: always reports core events Were 1920.746] (**were evdev: Sleep Button: Device: "/dev/input/event5" Were 1920.746] (-) evdev: Sleep Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x3 Were 1920.746] (-) evdev: Sleep Button: Found keys Were 1920.746] (II) evdev: Sleep Button: Configuring as keyboard Were 1920.746] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/LNXSYSTMCCBLEJJ/LNXSLPBNCCBLEJJ/INPUT/INPUTBL EE/ENCEVENT5" Were 1920.746] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Sleep Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 7) Were 1920.746] (**were Option "xkbrules" "evdev" Were 1920.746] (**were Option "xkbmodel" "pc104" Were 1920.746] (**were Option "xkblayout" "us" Were 1920.747] (II) config/udev: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) Were 1920.747] (II) itselfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) Were 1920.748] setversion 1.4 failed Were 1920.748] (II) config/udev: Adding input device VirtualBox mouse integration (/dev/input/event3) Were 1920.748] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall" Were 1920.748] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'VirtualBox mouse integration' Were 1920.748] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: always reports core events Were 1920.748] (**were evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Device: "/dev/input/event3" Were 1920.748] (-) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Vendor 0x80ee Product 0xcafe Were 1920.748] (-) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Found 1 mouse buttons Were 1920.748] (-) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Found absolute axes Were 1920.748] (-) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Found x and y absolute axes Were 1920.748] (-) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Found absolute touchscreen Were 1920.748] (II) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: Configuring as touchscreen Were 1920.749] (**were evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 Were 1920.749] (**were evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 Were 1920.749] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/pci0000:00/jjjjccjjccjdj/input/inputblec/ence vent3" Were 1920.749] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "VirtualBox mouse integration" (type: TOUCHSCREEN, id 8) Were 1920.749] (II) evdev: VirtualBox mouse integration: initialized for absolute axes. Were 1920.749] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 Were 1920.749] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: (accel) acceleration profile 0 Were 1920.749] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 Were 1920.749] (**were VirtualBox mouse integration: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 Were 1920.749] (II) config/udev: Adding input device VirtualBox mouse integration (/dev/input/js1) Were 1920.749] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. Were 1920.749] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. Were 1920.751] (II) config/udev: Adding input device VirtualBox USB Tablet (/dev/input/event1) Were 1920.751] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall" Were 1920.751] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'VirtualBox USB Tablet' Were 1920.751] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: always reports core events Were 1920.751] (**were evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Device: "/dev/input/event1" Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Vendor 0x80ee Product 0x21 Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found 9 mouse buttons Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found scroll wheel(s) Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found relative axes Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found absolute axes Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found x and y absolute axes Were 1920.751] (-) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Found absolute touchscreen Were 1920.751] (II) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Configuring as touchscreen Were 1920.751] (II) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: Adding scrollwheel support Were 1920.751] (**were evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 Were 1920.751] (**were evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 Were 1920.752] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/pci0000:00/jjjjccjjccjfj/usbblea/a-a/a-accaj/ input/inputblea/encevent1" Were 1920.752] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "VirtualBox USB Tablet" (type: TOUCHSCREEN, id 9) Were 1920.752] (WW) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: touchpads, tablets and touchscreens ignore relative axes. Were 1920.752] (II) evdev: VirtualBox USB Tablet: initialized for absolute axes. Were 1920.752] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 Were 1920.752] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: (accel) acceleration profile 0 Were 1920.752] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 Were 1920.752] (**were VirtualBox USB Tablet: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 Were 1920.752] (II) config/udev: Adding input device VirtualBox USB Tablet (/dev/input/js0) Were 1920.752] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. Were 1920.752] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. Were 1920.753] (II) config/udev: Adding input device VirtualBox USB Tablet (/dev/input/mouse0) Were 1920.753] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. Were 1920.753] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. Were 1920.753] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard (/dev/input/event0) Were 1920.753] (**were AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall" Were 1920.753] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'At Translated Set 2 keyboard' Were 1920.753] (**were AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events Were 1920.753] (**were evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event0" Were 1920.753] (-) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Vendor 0x1 Product 0x1 Were 1920.753] (-) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys Were 1920.753] (II) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard Were 1920.753] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/platform/iblehjdb/serioblej/input/inputblej/e ncevent0" Were 1920.753] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 10) Were 1920.753] (**were Option "xkbrules" "evdev" Were 1920.753] (**were Option "xkbmodel" "pc104" Were 1920.753] (**were Option "xkblayout" "us" Were 1920.754] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse (/dev/input/event7) Were 1920.754] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall" Were 1920.754] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse' Were 1920.754] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: always reports core events Were 1920.754] (**were evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event7" Were 1920.754] (-) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x6 Were 1920.754] (-) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Found 9 mouse buttons Were 1920.754] (-) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s) Were 1920.754] (-) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Found relative axes Were 1920.754] (-) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Found x and y relative axes Were 1920.754] (II) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Configuring as mouse Were 1920.754] (II) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Adding scrollwheel support Were 1920.754] (**were evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 Were 1920.754] (**were evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 Were 1920.754] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/platform/iblehjdb/serioblea/input/inputbleg/e ncevent7" Were 1920.754] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse" (type: MOUSE, id 11) Were 1920.754] (II) evdev: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: initialized for relative axes. Were 1920.754] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 Were 1920.755] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0 Were 1920.755] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 Were 1920.755] (**were ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 Were 1920.755] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse (/dev/input/mouse1) Were 1920.755] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. Were 1920.755] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. Were 1920.755] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker (/dev/input/event6) Were 1920.755] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. Were 1920.755] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. Were 1920.756] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Speakup (/dev/input/event2) Were 1920.756] (**were Speakup: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall" Were 1920.756] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Speakup' Were 1920.756] (**were Speakup: always reports core events Were 1920.756] (**were evdev: Speakup: Device: "/dev/input/event2" Were 1920.756] (-) evdev: Speakup: Vendor 0 Product 0 Were 1920.756] (-) evdev: Speakup: Found keys Were 1920.756] (II) evdev: Speakup: Configuring as keyboard Were 1920.756] (**were Option "configinfo" "udevcc/sys/devices/virtual/input/inputbleb/encevent2" Were 1920.756] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Speakup" (type: KEYBOARD, id 12) Were 1920.756] (**were Option "xkbrules" "evdev" Were 1920.756] (**were Option "xkbmodel" "pc104" Were 1920.756] (**were Option "xkblayout" "us" Were 2080.295] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Requested monitor count: 1 Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): EDID vendor "VBX", prod id 0 Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1600x1200 Warning: We only handle separate sync. Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Using hsync ranges from config file Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: Were 2080.303] (II) VBoxVideogg0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 116.21 1600 1602 1604 1606 1200 1202 1204 1206 comhsync comvsync (72.4 kHz eP) I have an Intel soundcard and graphic card.

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Re: [arch-general] Gnome and Arch Issues Under VirtualBox
by Alex Jordan 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

On Sep 29, 2013 12:32 PM, "Hunter Jozwiak" <potbelliedjazz(a)aol.com> wrote: > > I went into the directory /etc/skel/ and have erased the comment lines off of exect gnome-session It's really unclear what you're trying to do here. Please be more specific.

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[arch-general] Two things: TODO-list orphans in [community] and switching over to git
by Alexander Rødseth 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

Hi, --- Orphans --- In connection with the newly created TODO lists for rebuilds of packages formerly maintained by people that are no longer involved with Arch Linux, I wondered if there would be any objections if I moved the following packages from [community] to AUR: (They are currently unneeded orphans, ref https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/unneeded-orphans/) abe aircrack-ng archlinux-artwork archlinux-lxdm-theme bchunk bpython bpython2 cdck cherrytree cmus consonance ekg ekg2 fdupes fssos-nsvs ginac gkrellm gnome-themes-extras lastfmsubmitd libcgns2 luarocks lxinput lxlauncher lxmusic lxshortcut mpdscribble obkey openclonk openocd perlbrew pkgtools pypy3 python2-basemap python2-mpi4py python2-pyproj python2-virtkey python-apsw python-basemap python-bsddb python-html5lib python-mpi4py python-pyproj python-virtkey smokeping synaptiks tremulous v8 vim-buftabs vobcopy wqy-microhei-lite xdelta xdelta3 zsync Several, but not all of these, are on the newly created TODO-lists. All of them are "unneeded orphans" (https://www.archlinux.org/devel/reports/unneeded-orphans/) If you wish to adopt one of these, just reply to this email (or adopt it). Objections to moving them should preferrably also lead to someone adopting the orphans. --- Git --- As I gather, we all like git better than svn, for a long list of reasons. Are there any objections to switching over from svn to git as repositories for the official packages? Yes, this can not be done in a heartbeat. The tools and documentation needs to be updated and the workflow needs to be tested, but are there objections to starting the transition process? -- Best regards, Alexander Rødseth xyproto / TU

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[arch-general] Gnome and Arch Issues Under VirtualBox
by Hunter Jozwiak 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

Hi guys: I've installed Gnome and I don't really want to run it from the GDM. So, I went into the directory /etc/skel/ and have erased the comment lines off of exect gnome-session. When I type startx, and press alt+F2 to run and type Orca, nothing seems to happen. Also, I have the VirtualBox guest utilities and have loaded all the modules. Is there an issue here with VirtualBox that I am not aware of?

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[arch-general] glibc 2.18-5 question
by LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hi, I just checked what was the motivation for this 5th release and I have found: http://hmarco.org/bugs/CVE-2013-4788.html where it says: The vulnerability is caused due to the non initialization to a random value (it is always zero) of the "pointer guard" by the glibc only when generating static compiled executables. Dynamic executables are not affected. Pointer guard is used to mangle the content of sensible pointers (longjmp, signal handlers, etc.), if the pointer guard value is zero (non-initialized) then it is not effective. So, out of curiosity, how big is the threat since I am under the impression that almost 100% if not 100% of Arch binaries uses libc.so Greetings, Olivier ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium.

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[arch-general] Donate to Arch Linux
by Michael Düll 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hi everyone! As far as I can see, there's only one option for non-US-citizens to donate money to the project. This one option is a credit card [1]. As you may or may not be aware: Most (european) german citizens do not possess and wish not possess a credit card and in some cases are not able to possess a credit card. Are other donation options planned in the future? How soon? I would even send an envelope with €urobills in it via AirMail, though I'd prefer something more secure like Bitcoin or (I know many see it as the devil) PayPal. tl,dr: I want to send money to Arch Linux, but can't. [1] http://i.imgur.com/dOFg0DE.png Yours all, Michael Düll

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[arch-general] Issue with systemd --user services
by John Smith 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Hello, I'm having problems with starting 'mpd' as a user service: $ systemctl --user status mpd mpd.service - Music Player Daemon Loaded: loaded (/home/me/.config/systemd/user/mpd.service; enabled) Active: inactive (dead) However it works without any problems when started manually: $ systemctl --user start mpd $ systemctl --user status mpd mpd.service - Music Player Daemon Loaded: loaded (/home/me/.config/systemd/user/mpd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed 2013-09-25 22:10:36 BST; 5s ago Main PID: 709 (mpd) CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user(a)1000.service/mpd.service └─709 /usr/bin/mpd --stdout --no-daemon /home/me/.config/mpd/mpdconf Sep 25 22:10:36 XXX systemd[233]: Starting Music Player Daemon... Sep 25 22:10:36 XXX systemd[233]: Started Music Player Daemon. It's a fresh Arch install so it's unlikely that I messed something up. So far, in regrads to systemd I followed wiki [1] enabling autologin, fixed 'pam' and added some environmental variables to user session as per [2]. Any idea why this may be happening? [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Automatic_login_to_virtual_console [2] https://archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User

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[arch-general] Wayland Support in Gnome 3.10
by kristof 25 Sep '13

25 Sep '13

I'm not entirely savvy with all the details but from my understanding, GNOME 3.10 will be featuring a Wayland tech preview, meaning that it can (optionally?) use the wayland protocol to manage graphics and windows and all that fun stuff. Are we going to compile this support by default? Does anyone know how and if we'll be able to switch back and forth between Xorg and Wayland?

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[arch-general] Generate /etc/blkid.tab
by Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez 24 Sep '13

24 Sep '13

Hi, I need to update the content of this file because I modified my partition table, but I can't see how googling around. Is this file actually used? How is it generated originally when installing its owner package? Thanks in advance. -- Ricardo

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[arch-general] Best way for PKGBUILD to depend on another PKGBUILD (not a package)
by Nowaker 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Hi, Today on AUR I published coreutils-static package [1], a statically compiled variant of coreutils with --prefix=/rescue. coreutils depends on libattr and libcap. Because of the nature of static compilation libattr.a and libcap.a files are needed during the build. My package defines PKGBUILDs from [core] repo as source=(), performs `makepkg`, and provides -L for coreutils make during build(). [2] I pretty much like this idea because PKGBUILDs are ready to use. I don't need to define attr and libcap tar.gz releases as my package source=() and compile them by hand in build() which would be, more or less, a copy-paste. (pacman-static in AUR [3] does a copy-paste) The question: is this the best way for PKGBUILD to depend on another PKGBUILD? Are there any better solutions? And if this approach is reasonable, are there any ways to improve it? Especially the PKGBUILD code for -L, I don't quite like it. Thanks. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/coreutils-static [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/co/coreutils-static/PKGBUILD [3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pacman-static/ -- Kind regards, Damian Nowak StratusHost www.AtlasHost.eu

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[arch-general] amixer usage
by John Davis 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Hello I am trying to get my multimedia volume up and down buttons to work. I am reading various notes on amixer usage and it seems for others they can adjust current volume settings up and down. For me, i can only adjust to a fixed value. For example, this will set my volume to 50% [davis@x200 ~]$ amixer -c 0 cset numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' 50% numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=74,step=0 : values=37 | dBscale-min=-74.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0 But then if I want to adjust it by 2dB it will not adjust up or down by 2dB instead it sets the value to 2. If I set it to 2dB+ or simply the value 2 it does the same thing. [davis@x200 ~]$ amixer -c 0 cset numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' 2dB- numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=74,step=0 : values=2 | dBscale-min=-74.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0 [davis@x200 ~]$ amixer -c 0 cset numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' 2dB numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=74,step=0 : values=2 | dBscale-min=-74.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0 dB up, it will instead set the value to 2 instead of 39. [davis@x200 ~]$ amixer -c 0 cset numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' 2dB+ numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume' ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=74,step=0 : values=2 | dBscale-min=-74.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0 It appears the parser is ignoring dB and or +/- and only recognizing %. -- John F. Davis 6 Kandes Court Durham, NC 27713 919-888-8358 独树一帜

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[arch-general] Quo vadis, systemd user session?
by Tobias Frilling 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

I know, I know, it's only semi-supported, but I use systemd --user to manage my graphical environment (no DE, just a WM and a few applications). I've written a system-level service file which calls startx, which in turn calls systemd user session via .xinitrc: dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user The recent systemd update removed support for direct manipulation of cgroups. I had to rewrite the service file, cannibalized user@.service and ended up with this [1]. Yeah, it's cargo culting, but my mortal brain sometimes can't grok systemds complexity. So my first questions are: Is this something a sane person would do? Is there a more elegant way without installing more 3rd party software? Do I need to involve logind in some way? Part 2: Systemd now calls user@.service with every login, which in turn calls systemd --user. But as I said, I use it for graphical stuff, so I do not want this behavior. So the second bunch of questions would be: Can I overwrite user@.service without breaking something else? How would I do that? Any kind of held is appreciated. The current state of my setup feels kinda frail. Regards, Tobias [1] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jTjTwQMz

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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] systemd 207 and btrfs
by Jameson 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 09/18/13 at 08:31pm, Jameson wrote: >> I upgraded to systemd 207 today, and upon reboot received several >> messages that say, "failed to open /dev/btrfs-control skipping device >> registration: No such file or directory." > > I think you probably meant to send this to [arch-general], not [aur-general]. So > I am going to send this to both… we'll see where it goes. Right you are. It turns out if I type arch- instead of arch, my Google contact list knows what I mean. :) > Your btrfs filesystem must span more than one device, yes? Yep. After running into different problems with both hardware RAID and mdadm for different reasons, I thought I'd give a btrfs RAID 1 volume a shot for root on my home server. > It was definitely the lack of /dev/btrfs-control that was causing the failure > though, as I was getting that error message. I recall checking immediately > after getting the message and seeing that /dev/btrfs-control was indeed there. > So maybe this is some kind of a race condition? It looks that way because when it gets to an emergency shell a btrfs device scan works fine. > This is just a shot in the dark, but what if you were to put the necessary > modules for btrfs in mkinitcpio.conf's MODULES list to have it loaded explicitly > and early? That did it. I added btrfs, zlib_deflate, and libcrc32a. I think I had previously needed to add crc32a for a different problem I was having with multi-device btrfs volumes. Thanks so much for your help, Curtis. =-Jameson

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[arch-general] Thunderbird unread message count
by David Rosenstrauch 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

Having one small issue with the new Thunderbird (v24.0) upgrade. On one of the IMAP accounts I use, all the mailboxes are set up as children of Inbox. Apparently in the new version of Thunderbird, when I'm looking at "Unread Folders" in that account, the unread message count displayed is the *total* of all unread messages in every sub-folder of Inbox. But when I switch to "All Folders", it displays the count of unread messages in just the Inbox account alone. (See http://www.darose.net/ThunderbirdUnreadMessageCountExpanded.png vs. http://www.darose.net/ThunderbirdUnreadMessageCountCollapsed.png) This is definitely new behavior - v17 didn't work like this. Anyone know if there's some tweak I can make to the Thunderbird config to get the old behavior back? Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] Fwd: Re: [aur-general] systemd 207 and btrfs
by Curtis Shimamoto 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

----- Forwarded message from Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy(a)gmail.com> ----- > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:50:16 -0700 > From: Curtis Shimamoto <sugar.and.scruffy(a)gmail.com> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] systemd 207 and btrfs > > On 09/18/13 at 08:31pm, Jameson wrote: > > I upgraded to systemd 207 today, and upon reboot received several > > messages that say, "failed to open /dev/btrfs-control skipping device > > registration: No such file or directory." The btrfs problem faq > > suggests that running "mknod /dev/btrfs-control c 10 234" should fix > > me up. However, when I run this it says that it already exists. The > > only significant changes that I made were to upgrade systemd, and add > > the systemd hook to mkinicpio.conf. I tried booting from external > > media, and removing the systemd hook, but after re-running mkinitcpio > > I still get the same result. Does anyone have any suggestions for > > getting past this? > > > > I will happily provide more information if you can tell me what would > > be helpful. > > > > Thanks, > > =-Jameson > > I think you probably meant to send this to [arch-general], not [aur-general]. So > I am going to send this to both… we'll see where it goes. > > Your btrfs filesystem must span more than one device, yes? I too was having > this problem with a multidevice btrfs filesystem, but ran into it a while back > since I use [testing]. > > I thought it must have been something I screwed up, so since data was in > 'single' anyway (different size devices), I decided to just convert it to use > just one disk. I had meant to debug it later, but forgot about it shortly > thereafter, and didn't even remember to do that until I saw this email. > > It was definitely the lack of /dev/btrfs-control that was causing the failure > though, as I was getting that error message. I recall checking immediately > after getting the message and seeing that /dev/btrfs-control was indeed there. > So maybe this is some kind of a race condition? > > This is just a shot in the dark, but what if you were to put the necessary > modules for btrfs in mkinitcpio.conf's MODULES list to have it loaded explicitly > and early? > > -- > Curtis Shimamoto > sugar.and.scruffy [at] gmail.com Whoops, forgot to CC arch-general like I said I would… ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Curtis Shimamoto sugar.and.scruffy [at] gmail.com

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[arch-general] ot: spam recognition Re: sysctl.conf.pacsave messages of archlinux.org and archlinux.de are different
by Guus Snijders 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Hey, i noticed that gmail marked your message as "spam". I think it has something to do with you e-mail address. just a heads-up. Mvg, Guus

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[arch-general] sysctl.conf.pacsave messages of archlinux.org and archlinux.de are different
by Ralf Mardorf 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Hi, archlinux.org claims "If you never customized /etc/sysctl.conf, you have nothing to do", while archlinux.de's claim is that only those settings "# Protection from the SYN flood attack. net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1 # Disable packet forwarding. net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0" were used by a /etc/sysctl.conf that never was customized. I never customized the /etc/sysctl.conf on my machine, but it contains other enabled entries too. $ grep -v "#" /etc/sysctl.conf.pacsave net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1 net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0 kernel.sysrq = 0 vm.swappiness = 10 fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288 This is confusing. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] arch install issues with 2013.09 iso & vfat device
by arnaud gaboury 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Dear all, this is my second arch install this month (archlinux-2013.09.01-dual.iso) on an usb key to get a live Arch. Both installs failed on a vfat formated device, when they succed on ext2. $ pacstrap /mnt base returns lot of these erros: warning: warning given when extracting usr/bin/vgrename (Can't create '/mnt/usr/bin/vgrename') ...... It seems, even in chroot, that I can't write the vfat formated device I would like to use vfat as these keys are aimed to boot Arch from windows machines and share files. I used gdisk and fdisk to partition, then mkfs.vfat to format, on clean usb keys. Is there anything I missed ? Then, there is an issue with package vi: error: could not open file /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/vi-1:050325-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.part: Invalid argument I first # pacman-key --init && pacman-key --populate archlinux and # pacman -Syy The only way to succed the install was : # pacstrap -i /mnt base --ignore vi I must add that earlier installs with earlier iso did not show this issue. Maybe shall I open a bug report, or is this a known issue ? Last, the above command returns : :: vi is in IgnorePkg/IgnoreGroup. Install anyway? [Y/n] It seems weird to me that default is Yes, as I specified --ignore vi. Would' nt it makes more sense to default No ? Regards.

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[arch-general] linux 3.11.1 and udev 204
by Leonid Isaev 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi, There has been some changes in driver handling in core/linux-3.11-1 which require latest udev (>204) [1]. However, udev in [core] is still at v204 which will break some systems [2]. Is it possible to move systemd 207-2 or backport udev changes [1] to 204? [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit?id=bf7f800f2b3e93ccd1229… [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1325729 Thanks, -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] systemd start a daemon after the Internet connection is established
by Bill Sun 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi, I have a web proxy that can only initiate itself online, otherwise it would exit with an error. To daemonize that proxy, I wrote the following systemd service file: [Unit] Description=A Proxy Server After=network.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/srv/proxy/aproxy/bin/main [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target When the server is connected to the Internet, this service file can launch the proxy successfully, but it doesn't work on system startup, supposedly due to the lack of an connection with Internet access. So I need systemd to make sure the connect has been established before it launch this daemon. Regards.

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[arch-general] Arch Linux
by Bruno Delbono 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

Hi guys, I just wanted to say that I’ve been playing with UNIX before Linux was born. I have gone from distro to distro, OS to OS. I can admin an *nix OS with eyes closed. So you can understand my reluctance when my friend urged; well almost kicked my ass to give Arch Linux a shot. He said, "You will hate yourself for not using it before!". I don't use Linux on a desktop. I guess staring at CDE in Solaris was enough. And I am quite jaded with distros and use mostly CentOS/Ubuntu in the cloud (I have instances in AWS and lately started a few in Windows Azure). Thanks to one of the members of this group, Brian Parson - http://www.brianparsons.net/ , I launched my first instance of Arch on AWS about a week ago. Took a few hours to get the hang of how you do things in Arch. The Wiki is good, but can do with better explanation. For instance, the nginx article that talks about running it in chroot but then all instructions for varnish, php-fpm are for unchrooted nginx. Kinda annoying but I know how to get around it. As for Arch, I am now hooked. It's so awesome. It's like Gentoo, but better (I know wrong comparison). I'm loving Arch so much that I will be moving from Ubuntu/CentOS for all my instances. So basically, ya. Awesome work! This distro is really kicks ass! :D PS - I'm also planning to create an image ready for deployment for use with Windows Azure -- they don't have any Arch images so far. Cannot wait to contribute back by making images for Azure available for use :) Bruno Delbono | Cognitive Researcher - Human Behavioural Project | Real Sociedad Española De Antropología | Royal Spanish Society Of Anthropology | ☎: +1 855 253 5436 ☎: +1 424 354 4700 | ✉: Bruno.Delbono(a)Anthropology.Es | ☞: Anthropology.ES  | ✉: Bruno.Delbono(a)Secure.AF | ☞: Secure.AF | ☛: Mail.AC

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[arch-general] swap not always enabled?
by phanisvara 14 Sep '13

14 Sep '13

normally conky tells me that i'm using 0% swap. just now i noticed it showing, "no swap%," which looked strange. issuing "swapon -a" as root changed the display back to "0%." now i'm wondering if i missed something, systemd changes perhaps, that swap doesn't get switched on unless it's needed, or if something went wrong on my machine. didn't notice any unmerged .pacnew files, but will check again... -- phani.

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[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] systemd 207 ignores /etc/sysctl.conf
by Martti Kühne 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > Hi, > > a new features in systemd 207 is to no longer read /etc/sysctl.conf. > Instead /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf has to be used. Imho this needs a news item > and we also need to think about what to do with the file we ship as part > of procps-ng. > > From the systemd changelog: > * The systemd-sysctl tool no longer natively reads the > file /etc/sysctl.conf. If desired, the file should be > symlinked from /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf. Apart from > providing legacy support by a symlink rather than built-in > code, it also makes the otherwise hidden order of application > of the different files visible. > I may sound lazy, but can't we just provide that symlink and get done with other problems? cheers! mar77i

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[arch-general] Various questions regarding keyboard configuration
by Jakub Klinkovský 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

Hi, I'm currently rewriting some pages on ArchWiki regarding keyboard configuration, the current state is quite a mess. Here's the most relevant discussion: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Xorg#Keyboard_settings You can watch the progress on my user-pages, any feedback is welcome: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Lahwaacz/Keyboard_configuration_i… https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Lahwaacz/Keyboard_configuration_i… I've got some questions that I think should be answered before I finish: 1) Why are keycodes as reported by xev different from those reported by showkey? This is not related to configuration, but I plan to update/rewrite https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys too. 2) The man page vconsole.conf(5) mentions KEYMAP_TOGGLE variable to "configure a second toggle keymap", however, that's all the documentation says. Looking at the code (vconsole-setup.c at line 120), it uses the 'loadkeys' utility, which does not document any such feature. Instead it seems that the specified keymaps are loaded serially, resulting in KEYMAP_TOGGLE overwrites KEYMAP. Am I missing something here? Regards, Jakub Klinkovský (Lahwaacz)

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[arch-general] iptables script
by F. Gr. 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

I'm newbie about iptables. I use this script <http://pastebin.ca/2447430> for my system. It is based on <http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_stateful_firewall>. Now I want to add an iptables log chain and others. What is the correct line to start adding the following? <script> ## Logging $IPT -N LOGDROP $IPT -A LOGDROP -m limit --limit 5/m --limit-burst 8 -j LOG --log-prefix "IPTables-Dropped: " $IPT -A LOGDROP -j DROP # log and drop packets that hit this rule $IPT -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j LOGDROP </script> Supposing I want to add the following lines as well, is there any rules that is superfluous? These rules have to place after or before the rule "$IPT -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP"? <script> # SSH bruteforce attacks $IPT -N IN_SSH $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j IN_SSH $IPT -A IN_SSH -m recent --name sshbf --rttl --rcheck --hitcount 3 --seconds 10 -j DROP $IPT -A IN_SSH -m recent --name sshbf --rttl --rcheck --hitcount 4 --seconds 1800 -j DROP $IPT -A IN_SSH -m recent --name sshbf --set -j ACCEPT $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j IN_SSH ## Local Area Network Denial (LAND) attack # Block all packets from your own IP $IPT -A INPUT -s 192.168.201.2/32 -j DROP # Block any packet from local network $IPT -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP # SYN Flood $IPT -A FORWARD -p tcp --syn -m limit --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT # SYN packets # Drop any tcp packet that does not start a connection with a syn flag $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j DROP # NULL packets $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -j DROP # XMAS packets $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ALL -j DROP # Fragments Packet $IPT -A INPUT -f -j DROP # ping of death $IPT -A FORWARD -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m limit --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT # Furtive port scanner $IPT -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,ACK,FIN,RST RST -m limit --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT </script>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Dropping LXDM
by Christian Hesse 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Gaetan Bisson <bisson(a)archlinux.org> on Tue, 2013/09/10 21:21: > [2013-09-11 08:56:42 +0200] Bartłomiej Piotrowski: > > On 2013-09-11 00:53, Allan McRae wrote: > > > Also "thanks to its developers and recent changes in package" and > > > "during 2 years since last release" make zero sense taken together. > > > > What exactly doesn't make sense? The fact that LXDM is based on > > ConsoleKit and even with git patch is unable to utilize logind correctly? > > Upstream seems pretty active; do you mean that all the problems we have > with our package are still present in git master? If not, we should try > to convince upstream to make a release - and if they are not willing to > we can always package a git snapshot. I vote for this. A lot of issues have been resolved in git master, some by myself. I have not followed the changes in community package but used the git package from AUR instead. It works great for me so far. Some time ago dgod (the developer) stated he "would like to release it, but the lxde release team has some problems to release it". He also thinks one should not wait for a release but using git is stable enough. I do not have any more information, but contacting him may be worth it. For me git is just fine, I do understand packagers do prefer releases, though. ;) -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);}

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[arch-general] new arch installation: user login not possible on virtual console
by Friedrich Strohmaier 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Hi all, this is the first time writing to this list so first: hello to all. I'm a quite happy user of arch-linux since december last year, and up to now I managed to solve all tasks and difficulties using the rtfm button. ;o)) Now installing a further box (x86) I get this strange behaviour never met during ~15 years of linux usage: After setting up a new user I cannot login to it's account on the virtual console. I get: Login incorrect No matter whether password is set or not # passwd -S <user>: <user> P ... # password set <user> NP ... # password not set login as root works with and without password set (both times unset by deleting the /etc/shadow passwd entry). this also occured on another box currently installed - latter one a x86_64 user was added through # useradd -m -g <group> <user> password was set through # passwd user changing user from root via sudo or su works, as does login via xdm. login via lxdm and gdm doesn't, if that is of any help. If I do the same on my box writing this mail from (x86_64 - all updates included) everything works as expected. Couldn't find anything at the bugtracker. Before digging deeper my question: Any known issues or ideas on that? Friedrich

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[arch-general] System-Wide Pulseaudio
by Dennis Lange 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Hi everybody, I like to run more than one user in more than one X session at the same time and want to hear the audio from all users together. So i thought it would be nice to have a System-Wide Pulseaudio setup. I try to use this package: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pulseaudio-systemd/ and like shown here: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Syst… I put all users into pulse-access group after installing the pulseaudio-systemd package and reboot, but it will not work. Have anyone a hint for this situation?

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Community on Gittip
by Karol Blazewicz 06 Sep '13

06 Sep '13

I asked about this before: https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2013-May/033590.html but now Dusty wants to make it official (or "official") https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169356 Some people didn't like the Official Arch Linux Google+ page, so I want to make sure if the kind of official Arch Linux community Dusty wants is OK with the Arch Overlords. It seems OK to me.

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[arch-general] kernel 3.11 and virtualbox kernel module
by Genes Lists 03 Sep '13

03 Sep '13

Heads up - noew that 3.11 is out, there is a patch in upstream virtualbox which is not in vbox 4.2.16 that is necessary otherwise the kernel modules wont compile for 3.11 kernel. The file needing fixing is /usr/src/vboxguest-4.2.16/vboxsf/dirops.c I am happy to send the required patch if its needed. Gene/

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[arch-general] linux-3.11-1 in [testing], broken community modules
by Tobias Powalowski 03 Sep '13

03 Sep '13

Hi, I built the kernel, now there are issues with following - community binary modules: virtualbox-modules Please find patches and fix those. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Isolate systemd target if service fails
by Buce 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

Hi, I just set up a custom systemd target on my laptop for the first time using [1] to split out services that I don't want running if I'm on a public wifi. I configured things so that by default, I boot into a custom 'home.target' which starts everything up, and then if I'm on an untrusted network I can `systemctl isolate multi-user` to bring down httpd, mysqld, sshd, and anything else I'd rather not have listening to outside traffic. Usually under those circumstances, my SSID wouldn't be available and netctl(a)homewifi.service would have failed, so in an effort to automate the process I added the following to the netctl service file and did `systemctl --system daemon-reload` to read in the changes. OnFailure=multi-user.target OnFailureIsolate=true The end result is that if systemd is unable to start netctl(a)homewifi.service, it will isolate the multi-user target, thus shutting down httpd, mysqld, sshd, and other services belonging to home.target. I'm just posting this because the solution wasn't obvious and a google search for the terms in the subject of this email didn't turn up anything about OnFailure and OnFailureIsolate. Hopefully the info will be useful to someone else. I also wouldn't mind feedback on this setup. Is what I'm doing sane? Could it be done better? My full home.target and netctl(a)homewifi.service are linked below [2]. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Targets [2] https://gist.github.com/DMBuce/6390806 -Buce

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[arch-general] libreoffice in [testing] - file conflicts between -en-GB and -common
by Oon-Ee Ng 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

Filed bug report here - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36732 Just so anyone reading this knows its already been filed and doesn't need to search =)

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[arch-general] disable fourth mouse button
by David Benfell 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, My mouse is great except for one thing. The fourth mouse button is entirely too easy to press by accident. Normally it doesn't do anything. But in a browser it can be disastrous. I would really like it to go away. Google isn't helping me. And the Arch Wiki mouse articles seem to be leading in a different direction. Can someone point me in the right direction? I use both chromium and firefox on an ongoing basis. I'd rather just tell the driver to ignore the button. Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benfell(a)parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSHsmEAAoJEKrN0Ha7pkCOR78QAIq79pKNEjkfs2itbR6WXGzX nkMVVqIbBGIfGlZoFKhYUUzGXiUc5YWELuFiFl44xMqkFkaWdjzRCaQhBDox46qV 4KQ1zF4tfJIwjDbfnLLx2gekpiNt2NTeuWR3NFJQH5u2mnlNuE2XVyTzzskVIYLA NIMpIRPATvKFvdt2yJFJH32M9liqHeBmTHiKmbRJtytMnsqXySNcjjnjsYsPnWJ7 wA8+lBUtWo0FN9m6AQI/fPty+6rtuQwxSS+zMLrFxGs2BfEz1y0YkblZjUR2wvZU f7LkKEFXaXt0v8Pq6eOYOsrZfqkve4PFze2EZNiHx0SvEkgmLp0oUm+Pk8ExlyCp pPXAKa4aKT5hW6jTZH3yymVR/bBDF+2rL3zhAKWzjcYoqyTXLjYPiRGbG1hXVUGO b3HHobcHf2lNYYnabAT5QKMavSHB4H3jVJH77gfFs+Tbm0SNwCfaO6B/v0cfV3wV 1SwavkheIf2m2I0MLq6D+v5fu3KRvd4HQuEJkn7dr+Fti9pkfVg23Q4fAbRDZ/q6 13Z0EDNyUN1g9VFZnRFEobW2sxr3Eczj4THClvjv3fUFbsaecTcwNdSUWqLQItF0 xgEoxBdD1n0bBr08cBUV401qIzlziyvSBMqlbQwseCaUXj/xMNX12tNFeqsqHSMb qMojMpk7P4ksQ/ZM4ieA =yRZs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Initramfs doesn't ask for password to encrypted LVM
by Bartłomiej Piotrowski 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

I guess it's trivial to fix, I usually overlook basic things... I installed Arch on encrypted LVM without issues, but for some reason initramfs doesn't ask for password to encrypted LVM and waits for root device instead. I'm not sure where the problem lies -- configuration files[1] seem correct to me. Any ideas? [1] https://paste.xinu.at/pbiA78/ -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski http://bpiotrowski.pl/

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Re: [arch-general] Pip2 commands throw error [Solved]
by Squall Lionheart 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Squall Lionheart < headmastersquall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Felix Yan <felixonmars(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Friday, August 16, 2013 14:49:49 Squall Lionheart wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Since upgrading to version 1.4.1 in July of python2-pip, I have been >> > receiving this Exception on the commands I execute. Received an update >> to >> > version 1.4.1-1 today and the error persists. This is a desktop machine >> > and I get the same error on a server running Parabola. I tried a manual >> > install of pip-1.4.1 and distribute on Slackware and everything runs as >> it >> > should. Have not tried the manual install on Arch yet since I would >> prefer >> > to use the packaged versions. >> > >> > Please help. >> > >> > $ pip2 list >> > caatinga (1.0.1) >> > clojure-py (0.2.4) >> > distribute (0.6.28) >> > Fabric (1.7.0) >> > git-remote-helpers (0.1.0) >> > logilab-astng (0.24.3) >> > logilab-common (0.60.0) >> > netsnmp-python (1.0a1) >> > paramiko (1.11.0) >> > pep8 (1.4.6) >> > pip (1.4.1) >> > pycrypto (2.6) >> > pylint (0.28.0) >> > python-libtorrent (0.16.10) >> > Exception: >> > Traceback (most recent call last): >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 134, >> in >> > main >> > status = self.run(options, args) >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line >> 80, in >> > run >> > self.run_listing(options) >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line >> 127, >> > in run_listing >> > self.output_package_listing(installed_packages) >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line >> 136, >> > in output_package_listing >> > if dist_is_editable(dist): >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/util.py", line 347, in >> > dist_is_editable >> > req = FrozenRequirement.from_dist(dist, []) >> > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/__init__.py", line 194, in >> > from_dist >> > assert len(specs) == 1 and specs[0][0] == '==' >> > AssertionError >> > >> > Storing complete log in /home/squall/.pip/pip.log >> > >> > >> > The contents of pip.log are the same as the error output. >> > >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > Squall >> >> Same for me when using python2-distribute 0.6.45-1, but after upgrading >> to testing/python2-setuptools 0.9.8-1 the error was gone. >> >> Regards, >> Felix Yan > > > Upgraded today to python2-setuptools 0.9.8-1 from extra and still get the > same errors. Tried removing and reinstalling the python2-pip package and > that had no affect. > > > It appears that I had a version of distribute that was manually installed. After removing it, the pip2 commands work as expected.

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[arch-general] Downgrading packages with ABS tree svn/git repo
by BlissSam 24 Aug '13

24 Aug '13

Hello those who need help, It is unfortunate that Arch Rollback Machine (A.R.M.) has shut down. I just want to tell those who need to build old packages: There is a svn/git repo for ABS. You can fetch it for old PKGBUILDs. Now I use those PKGBUILDs to keep a productive server stable. I share my idea here and hope that it can solve your problem. Link: [core]/[extra]: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/ [community]: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/ P.S. If anyone find it useful, please consider appending this to the Downgrading_Packages page on ArchWiki. -- Best regards, StarBrilliant (@m13253)

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[arch-general] System freeze while switching between X sessions
by Dennis Lange 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Hi, if I switch between more than one X session my Arch Linux is freezing earlier or later. I saw this before on the same system with Debian Jessie (Testing). Before Jessie the same system runs fine with Debian Wheezy where changing between X sessions where no problem, so I thought it has something to do with the new kernel and the proprietary nvidia driver, but i am not sure. After freeze the X server can not be killed with ctrl + alt + backspace and the Num Lock LED does not respond anymore. Yep its really ugly, only cold start helps in this situation. I need to test ssh because music plays onward. [dennis@rore ~]$ lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1) Will not upset anyone by pasting my complete Xlog into this mail so here is a link for it: http://www.pasteall.org/45056 Regards, Dennis

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[arch-general] Solution for issues with "green" HDDs when gvfs is installed
by Ralf Mardorf 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hi :) to help those who have "green" HDDs that can't keep asleep when gvfs is installed, I replaced the dummy package for gvfs I had installed by the real gvfs package and try to solve this issue by another method. There absolutely in no need to install gvfs on my machine, but since there's a "green" EU Regulation, soon or later more people will experience that their "green" drives will spin down and up again and again. The assumption is that it's udisks that wakes up sleeping drives, for gvfs seemingly configurable by /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/. This assumption might be wrong. $ systemctl status udisks udisks.service - UDisks Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks.service; disabled) Active: inactive (dead) $ cat /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/udisks2.monitor [RemoteVolumeMonitor] Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorUDisks2 DBusName=org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor IsNative=true NativePriority=4 What are "IsNative" and "NativePriority" for? I still search myself, but any hints are welcome, to disable _what ever_ wakes up such "green" drives. Without gvfs those drives keep asleep. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Intel SNA artifacts in Firefox
by Paul Gideon Dann 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Since the xf86-video-intel update that enabled SNA by default, I've noticed that some areas of some web pages (mostly flat backgrounds) in Firefox suffer from heavy graphical corruption, as if those areas are being used as rendering buffers elsewhere: bits of web pages from other tabs, etc... It goes away when I scroll the page. It happens regularly, every couple of minutes or more. This is on a Dell Latitude E5520 (Sandybridge i5) with KDE. I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this? Paul

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[arch-general] Pip2 commands throw error
by Squall Lionheart 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Hello, Since upgrading to version 1.4.1 in July of python2-pip, I have been receiving this Exception on the commands I execute. Received an update to version 1.4.1-1 today and the error persists. This is a desktop machine and I get the same error on a server running Parabola. I tried a manual install of pip-1.4.1 and distribute on Slackware and everything runs as it should. Have not tried the manual install on Arch yet since I would prefer to use the packaged versions. Please help. $ pip2 list caatinga (1.0.1) clojure-py (0.2.4) distribute (0.6.28) Fabric (1.7.0) git-remote-helpers (0.1.0) logilab-astng (0.24.3) logilab-common (0.60.0) netsnmp-python (1.0a1) paramiko (1.11.0) pep8 (1.4.6) pip (1.4.1) pycrypto (2.6) pylint (0.28.0) python-libtorrent (0.16.10) Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 134, in main status = self.run(options, args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 80, in run self.run_listing(options) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 127, in run_listing self.output_package_listing(installed_packages) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 136, in output_package_listing if dist_is_editable(dist): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/util.py", line 347, in dist_is_editable req = FrozenRequirement.from_dist(dist, []) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/__init__.py", line 194, in from_dist assert len(specs) == 1 and specs[0][0] == '==' AssertionError Storing complete log in /home/squall/.pip/pip.log The contents of pip.log are the same as the error output. Thank you Squall -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N https://github.com/headmastersquall

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[arch-general] 64 bit kernel with 32 bit userspace
by Laszlo Papp 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Hi, based on the following forum entry, I would like to open this topic up for a wide discussion. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1314594 Cheers, L.

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[arch-general] Does leading slash matter in install scriptlets?
by lolilolicon 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Many install scriptlets include the leading slash in file paths, e.g. post_install() { update-desktop-database -q gtk-update-icon-cache -q -t -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor } while some strip the leading slash, post_install() { update-desktop-database -q gtk-update-icon-cache -q -t -f usr/share/icons/hicolor } Would this make a difference with `pacman -S --root <path> <pkg>`? If not, is there any case in which it would make a difference?

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[arch-general] Systemd inside LXC: user sessions are not automatically removed on logout
by Leonid Isaev 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Hi, I have been experimenting with archlinux guests inside LXC containers, and noticed that when a user logs out, systemd-logind won't remove the session. This is reproducible on all (archlinux x86_64) host-guest, testing-stable combinations. Here is an example (fserv1 is a container hostname). The only way to login is through ssh (sshd.service is enabled and running inside the container). fserv1-~ >>> loginctl list-sessions SESSION UID USER SEAT 5 0 root 16 2001 fserv1user 18 2001 fserv1user 19 2001 fserv1user 34 2001 fserv1user fserv1-~ >>> w 16:28:27 up 22:08, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 USER TTY LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT fserv1us pts/0 16:06 3.00s 0.11s 0.00s w fserv1-~ >>> id uid=2001(fserv1user) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),190(systemd-journal) fserv1-~ >>> loginctl list-users UID USER 0 root 2001 fserv1user 2 users listed. fserv1-~ >>> ps -u root -U root | grep -i sh 18 ? 00:00:00 sshd 1506 ? 00:00:00 sshd As root: [root@fserv1 ~]# loginctl session-status 16 16 - fserv1user (2001) Since: Mon 2013-08-19 03:59:13 UTC; 12h ago Leader: 748 Remote: hermes.skynet Service: sshd; type tty; class user State: closing CGroup: systemd:/system/lxc_fserv1.service/user/2001.user/16.session [root@fserv1 ~]# loginctl session-status 5 5 - root (0) Since: Sun 2013-08-18 19:48:16 UTC; 20h ago Leader: 141 Remote: hermes.skynet Service: sshd; type tty; class user State: closing CGroup: systemd:/system/lxc_fserv1.service/user/0.user/5.session [root@fserv1 ~]# loginctl kill-session 16 Failed to issue method call: No such process [root@fserv1 ~]# loginctl kill-session 5 Failed to issue method call: No such process However, sshd works correctly, e.g. Aug 18 19:48:16 fserv1 sshd[141]: Accepted password for root from 10.0.0.154 port 39596 ssh2 Aug 18 19:48:16 fserv1 sshd[141]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) Aug 18 19:48:16 fserv1 systemd-logind[22]: New session 5 of user root. Aug 18 19:51:27 fserv1 sshd[141]: Received disconnect from 10.0.0.154: 11: disconnected by user Aug 18 19:51:27 fserv1 sshd[141]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user root The containers are vanilla (all systemd-related configuration is default) archlinux installs created with lxc-archlinux template from community/lxc. There are no errors/warnings reported by journalctl. The only systemd units masked inside the guests are: systemd-udevd-control.socket, systemd-udevd-kernel.socket, systemd-udevd.service, and proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount. Is this my mistake somewhere or a systemd issue? Thanks, Leonid. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] no mp4 playback with VLC
by Nelson Marambio 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Hi, folks, I downloaded a video file from YouTube which makes my players hang. VLC neither plays audio or video but just remains as if no file was in the playlist (in fact it is). When I start vlc (vlc -v) from console and try to play that video file vlc writes to the console mp4 stream warning: unknown box type tft (incompletely loaded) When I feed Google with this message I receive just similar results ('tft' seems to be individual to my problem) but not a solution. ****************** When I try to play the file with GNOME Mplayer it works but without the sound. I already checked in the preferences that I don't use the internal volume control of Mplayer. Does anyone have a hint for me ? I am unsure if a codec is missing because VLC would tell me that ?!? As Mplayer can decode the images I think the file is not corrupted. But what about the sound ? ******************** The video file is located here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ifeJZSQ64 (480p, file size is approx. 415 MByte) I downloaded it with this Firefox extension: http://www.downloadhelper.net/ output vlc: http://pastebin.com/mhYDeGK4 output GNOME Mplayer: http://pastebin.com/yp6U6w9d Thanks in advance, Nelson.

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[arch-general] Question about repository updates and atomicity
by Johannes Ernst 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

I'm trying to understand what may and may not go wrong between package uploads to a repository, repository synchronization via rsync (which seems to be the preferred method for mirrors to get their stuff) and downloads via pacman. Assume a developer uploads a new version of two packages to a repository. My understanding is that uploads delete the older version of the uploaded package currently in the repository. (unlike other package management systems e.g. debian's where multiple versions of the same package can reside in the same repository). An hour later, a mirror repository starts rsycing. While the rsync is ongoing, a user uses pacman to download both packages from the mirror. Question: what mechanisms exists, if any, to avoid that the user gets the old version of package A and the new version of package B? (assume the rsync is still ongoing while the download occurs) It seems the "safe" way of doing the rsync would be to take down the mirror during the critical section (when all old versions are removed and the new ones put there instead), and restart it afterwards? Or is there something somewhere that I'm not seeing? The debian guys probably keep the old version(s) around for exactly that reason... Any insight very much appreciated ... Cheers, Johannes.

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[arch-general] tmpfs 100% /tmp - No space left on device
by Ralf Mardorf 18 Aug '13

18 Aug '13

Hi :) when I try to build current linux-rt I get "No space left on device", resp. df shows "tmpfs 100% /tmp". What can I do? Add "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=3G 0 0" to /etc/fstab? What should somebody do, assumed there are only 2 GB available by RAM? I could build the kernel-rt before this one, [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ uname -rm 3.8.13-rt14-1-rt x86_64 Some information: [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda9 35G 24G 9.6G 71% / dev 1.8G 0 1.8G 0% /dev run 1.9G 1008K 1.9G 1% /run tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1.9G 1.9G 0 100% /tmp /dev/sdb12 48G 9.9G 35G 22% /home/music /dev/sda11 57G 23G 32G 43% /mnt/music /dev/sdb8 20G 7.3G 12G 40% /mnt/maverick [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ hwinfo --memory 01: None 00.0: 10102 Main Memory [Created at memory.66] Unique ID: rdCR.CxwsZFjVASF Hardware Class: memory Model: "Main Memory" Memory Range: 0x00000000-0xe78c6fff (rw) Memory Size: 3 GB + 512 MB Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# cat /etc/fstab # # /etc/fstab: static file system information # # <file system> <dir> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> # UUID=f386221b-fc9c-434b-b4e7-b3b1b97be8aa LABEL=archlinux /dev/sda9 / ext3 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 1 # UUID=3e19b702-30ed-4574-91d7-1594fad71842 /dev/sdb7 none swap defaults 0 0 # UUID=4b65ccbf-2219-4734-98fa-16c58d4f60fa /dev/sda10 none swap defaults,pri=-2 0 0 /dev/sda11 /mnt/music ext3 noatime,defaults 0 2 /dev/sdb12 /home/music ext4 noatime,defaults 0 2 The available rest output of the terminal, when building linux-rt: cp: failed to extend ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/modules/3.10.6-rt3-1-rt/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usbmidi-lib.ko’: No space left on device INSTALL sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-us122l.ko INSTALL sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-usx2y.ko cp: error writing ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/modules/3.10.6-rt3-1-rt/kernel/sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-us122l.ko’: No space left on device cp: failed to extend ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/modules/3.10.6-rt3-1-rt/kernel/sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-us122l.ko’: No space left on device cp: error writing ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/modules/3.10.6-rt3-1-rt/kernel/sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-usx2y.ko’: No space left on device cp: failed to extend ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/modules/3.10.6-rt3-1-rt/kernel/sound/usb/usx2y/snd-usb-usx2y.ko’: No space left on device MKDIR /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/acenic/ MKDIR /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/adaptec/ INSTALL /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/atmsar11.fw MKDIR /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/bnx2x/ install: error writing ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/atmsar11.fw’: No space left on device install: failed to extend ‘/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/atmsar11.fw’: No space left on device make[1]: *** [/tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/atmsar11.fw] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... MKDIR /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-linux-rt/pkg/linux-rt/lib/firmware/bnx2/ make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2 ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in package_linux-rt(). Aborting... ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build linux-rt. ==> Restart building linux-rt ? [y/N] ==> --------------------------------- ==> Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] LightDM hangs when checking the password
by Ralf Mardorf 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi :) I wonder if it's an issue with linux-rt 3.10.6-rt3 or randomly something else went wrong. Perhaps caused by 3.10.6-rt3 or not, but a security process or similar seems to be locked on my machine. After installing and booting into the 3.10.6-rt3 an update hanged when checking the keyring. I had to remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck and could update using 3.10.6-2-ARCH, but when I now try to start a session for 3.10.6-rt3, LightDM hangs when checking the password, I only was able to start one session for this kernel. After downgrading to 3.8.13-rt14-1-rt there isn't this issue anymore and even with 3.10.6-rt3 there were no issues when I want to log in booted in kernel 3.10.6-2-ARCH. In don't know what to check. What log searching for what information. At the moment I simply use 3.8.13-rt14-1-rt. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] The new mupdf package doesn't have the 'mupdf' file
by Iru Cai 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi, After I updated mupdf, I found that /usr/bin/mupdf is missing, and is replaced by mupdf-x11, which is a little inconvenient. Can the maintainer add a mupdf link to it? Iru

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[arch-general] mkarchiso operates poorly with new glibc-2.18 built without pt_chown
by Vadim Ushakov 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi. I've encountered the following trouble: 1. Boot the system. devpts has correct mount options and vte terminals work fine: vadim@aquila:~$ mount -t devpts devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) 2. Run mkarchiso init. In my case, it is run from a script: vadim@aquila:/media/stuff/Проекты/Личные/AL/al-iso$ su -c 'bash /media/stuff/Проекты/Личные/AL/al-iso/build.sh -v' mkarchiso init executes command mount -t devpts devpts ${work_dir}/root-image/dev/pts Executing that command seems to drop mount options of /dev/pts, now we have both devpts mount points have the same options: vadim@aquila:~$ mount -t devpts devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,mode=600,ptmxmode=000) devpts on /media/stuff/Проекты/Личные/AL/al-iso/work/i686/root-image/dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,mode=600,ptmxmode=000) And vte terminals stop to work after that, of course. -- Regards, Vadim Ushakov

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[arch-general] python-distribute is deprecated and merged back into setuptools.
by Shani Hadiyanto Pribadi 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hello, python-distribute is merged back into setuptools and deprecated. [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020126.html [2] http://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/merge.html I'm not sure where to report this since the bug report is not for out of date package. Here is the new PKGBUILD for python-setuptools-0.9.8: [3] https://gist.github.com/shanipribadi/6210208 Altough setuptools 1.0 will be out very soon (mercurial repo is already at 1.0b1, pypi is still at 0.9.8) Thank you.

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[arch-general] aur-general post acknowledgement
by 1007380＠gmail.com 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Your message entitled [Classroom] RESEND: Introduction to Package Maintenance was successfully received by the aur-general mailing list. List info page: https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general Your preferences: https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/aur-general/1007380%40gmail.c…

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[arch-general] [Classroom] Beginners Guide to Package Maintenance
by William Giokas 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

All, manfred and I have both decided that we are going to finally be having this class. We'll be doing the first class on Sunday, September 14th at 17:00 UTC.=20 This first class will be a basic introduction for new packagers on how to make their PKGBUILDs better. Anyone¹ is welcome to attend. We will be running our class out of the #archlinux-classroom channel on freenode. Those wanting a link can go here² for more information. ¹: There are some requirements to attend, you should not be completely new to Arch. We expect you to know how to use a text editor and basic Linux utilities (cd, mkdir, install, ln, etc.). ²: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide_to_Package_Maintaining Thank you, and we hope to see you there! -- William Giokas | KaiSforza | http://kaictl.net/ GnuPG Key: 0x73CD09CF Fingerprint: F73F 50EF BBE2 9846 8306 E6B8 6902 06D8 73CD 09CF

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[arch-general] testing/glibc 2.18-1 breaks vte
by Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

I am running [testing] on Arch Linux x86_64. With the recent update of glibc to 2.18-1, all vte-based terminals fail to start under a non-root user. They claim that "grantpt failed: Operation not permitted". Downgrading to core’s 2.17-6 restores regular functionality. Non-vte terminals (xterm, urxvt) are not affected by this. What is going on? -- Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://kwpolska.tk> PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense

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[arch-general] Pip2 commands throw error
by Squall Lionheart 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Hello, Since upgrading to version 1.4.1 in July of python2-pip, I have been receiving this Exception on the commands I execute. Received an update to version 1.4.1-1 today and the error persists. This is a desktop machine and I get the same error on a server running Parabola that gets the same error. I tried a manual install of pip-1.4.1 and distribute on Slackware and everything runs as it should. Please help. $ pip2 list caatinga (1.0.1) clojure-py (0.2.4) distribute (0.6.28) Fabric (1.7.0) git-remote-helpers (0.1.0) logilab-astng (0.24.3) logilab-common (0.60.0) netsnmp-python (1.0a1) paramiko (1.11.0) pep8 (1.4.6) pip (1.4.1) pycrypto (2.6) pylint (0.28.0) python-libtorrent (0.16.10) Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 134, in main status = self.run(options, args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 80, in run self.run_listing(options) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 127, in run_listing self.output_package_listing(installed_packages) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/list.py", line 136, in output_package_listing if dist_is_editable(dist): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/util.py", line 347, in dist_is_editable req = FrozenRequirement.from_dist(dist, []) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/__init__.py", line 194, in from_dist assert len(specs) == 1 and specs[0][0] == '==' AssertionError Storing complete log in /home/squall/.pip/pip.log The contents of pip.log are the same as the error output. Thank you Squall -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N https://github.com/headmastersquall

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[arch-general] Australian Mirrors
by Simon Perry 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Hi all, Does anybody know what the story is with almost all of the Aussie Arch mirrors? Almost all of them (except the iiNet mirror) have been out-of-date for days. Haven't seen any mention of it on the forums or here, so thought I'd ask. Cheers. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licensing issues with DB 6.0
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 10 Aug '13

10 Aug '13

On Friday 09 August 2013 11:31:22 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > we just finished the db 6.0 rebuild in staging. I was pointed* to an > issue with it's license though. It seems Oracle switched the license to > AGPL with version 6.0. I am not an expert, but afaik this makes it only > compatible with GPL3 clients and also enforces the AGPL terms on those. > > Debian had a similar discussion > https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2013/07/msg00000.html > > If you think this is indeed a problem, I suggest to drop the rebuild for > now and keep db-5. We could introduce a db6 package if packages really > need that and are license-compatible. We might also want to try to > disable db-functionality if possible and switch to alternative > implementations. > > Greetings, > > Pierre > > *) https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=65426 Out of the applications I have installed that use db 5.3, bogofilter can be linked against sqlite3 instead if it is configured with --with-database=sqlite3

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[arch-general] configuring the kernel in a chroot using devtools
by Joakim Hernberg 10 Aug '13

10 Aug '13

Hi there, I occasionally need to create new kernel config files for the aur/linux-rt package. Since I try to keep the config as close as possible to core/linux, I regularly pick up the config files from core/linux and then apply the changes needed to make a good -rt kernel. My problem is to create config files for i686 as I don't have such a machine anymore. core/linux has instructions to uncomment make menuconf/nconfig to configure the kernel, but when I try to configure the kernel in a chroot using the extra-i686-build script, I can't navigate the gui, all I get are escape chars printed on the screen. I've tried to make ncurses an explicit makedepends, and I've also checked the TERM variable, which is set to xterm, just as in my normal shell. No idea what to check for after that, but hopefully someone can point me to my mistake. Many thanks in advance, -- Joakim

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[arch-general] OpenNTPd not correcting time on boot
by Joe Eaves 08 Aug '13

08 Aug '13

Hi, First time posting so forgive me if I get it wrong. (This is already a resend because I used the wrong email previously!) I'm using OpenNTPd as a time server for my local network, but I have a slight issue. I run it on my Raspberry Pi which lacks a hardware clock, so every time I boot it, it thinks the time is 1970. In the systemd init file, openntpd.service, it runs the ntpd daemon with the '-s' option, which tell it that if the time is really far out of sync, just update it straight to the time that the server has. The problem is, this doesn't happen after boot. If I manually set the time with 'date -s @0000000000' and then restart the openntpd service it will work, but not automatically after boot up. I suspect it might be that it's not able to talk to a server because it's starting the service before the network is ready or something, but I'm using a static IP and have told openntpd.service that "wants" and "after" both == network.target. Any ideas? Joe -- *:wq!*

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[arch-general] remote poweroff with systemd
by Fons Adriaensen 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

Hello all, In one installation I manage I have a script that (among other actions) remotely shuts down a number of headless machines. Until recently these machines used the traditional init scripts, and the commands in the script were ssh -t remote1 "sudo /sbin/init 0" ssh -t remote2 "sudo /sbin/init 0" etc. This has worked well for years. Recently the machines were upgraded and mow use systemd. I replaced the original commands by ssh -t remote1 "sudo telinit 0" etc. This shuts down the first one OK, but then the script hangs. Apparently the ssh connection isn't closed cleanly. I didn't yet try 'systemctl poweroff', but according the man page, 'telinit 0' is equivalent to it. Another one I didn't yet try (just discovered it in the man pages but I don't have access to the installation ATM) is systemctl's --host option, in other words, let systemctl do the ssh. Can this be expected to work ? If not, any other ideas ? TIA for any help or hints. -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] ndiswrapper patch for linux-3.10
by Christian Weber 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

Hello, I wrote a patch for ndiswrapper to compile on 3.10 kernels. I also put together a PKGBUILD and made it available in the AUR. The patch: https://raw.github.com/TheWebster/Packaging/master/ARCH/ndiswrapper/kernel-… AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ndiswrapper/ Maybe the old maintainer wants to resume maintainership or someone else wants to take it. I will happily maintain it in the AUR but if there are plans to take it back into official repos i'll have to pass for now. Regards Christian Weber

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[arch-general] QEMU: mouse not working in arch guest
by phanisvara 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

i've switched from virtualbox to QEMU recently and am quite happy with it -- except that i can't get any mouse working properly in arch guests. others distro i've installed as guests (fedora 19, debian wheezy, even ubuntu) don't have that problem, for some reason only arch does. (i've got xf86-input-vmmouse installed on the guest.) i've exported "SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0" before starting qemu, and this seems to lessen the erratical jumping around of the mouse, but it's still unusable. i've also tried to specify "-usbdevice mouse," "-usbdevice tablet," and passing the USB device via vendor- and product ID, to no avail. have been searching quite a bit, but didn't find anything relevant. i'm using quemu-git from AUR now, and while the mouse doesn't jump around erratically, neither the left button nor it's position are being registered, while right button click is (always at the screen's center position, irrespective of mouse movement). would be grateful for any hints re. this. -- phani.

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[arch-general] efivars kernel module not loaded automatically in 3.10 kernel
by Sebastiaan Lokhorst 04 Aug '13

04 Aug '13

Hello fellow Archers, I've noticed that the efivars kernel module is no longer loaded automatically. Previously (I believe also in 3.9), it was loaded by default and commands like gummiboot and efibootmgr would work without any manual loading. The wiki[1] also explains that it should be enabled in the stock Arch kernel. I am not sure if this is intended, but if it is, all UEFI bootloader instructions should be updated because none of them work without efivars. Thanks! Sebastiaan [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#…

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[arch-general] pyalpm 0.6.2
by Rémy Oudompheng 04 Aug '13

04 Aug '13

Hello, pyalpm 0.6.2 has been released to [extra]. The following fixes are included: * pycman: recognize RemoteFileSigLevel and UseDelta=x options (FS#34791) * init_with_config now handles IgnorePkg and similar options (FS#29688) Regards, Rémy.

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[arch-general] Texlive 2013 packages released in [extra]
by Rémy Oudompheng 03 Aug '13

03 Aug '13

On 2013/7/3 Rémy Oudompheng <remyoudompheng(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have pushed TeXLive 2013 packages to [testing]. > The packages are now available in [extra]. Please read the news announcement for any issues after the upgrade: https://www.archlinux.org/news/texlive-2013-update-may-require-user-interve… Rémy.

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[arch-general] Disabled asm in x264 on i686
by Jens Arm 02 Aug '13

02 Aug '13

Hi ArchLinux-Team Why are asm optimizations disabled in x264 on i686? In the PKGBUILD is written: [[ "$CARCH" == "i686" ]] && _asm='--disable-asm' Are there any bugs when asm is enabled? Regards Jens

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[arch-general] Upstream urls and package descriptions
by Karol Blazewicz 02 Aug '13

02 Aug '13

Intro: Below are some questions / ideas I came up with. I simply don't know if anyone cares about these issues, whether there are rules or at least suggestions how to best deal with them or is it up to the maintainer. I've heard there were some plans wrt a build server that would periodically check if packages still build. Any news? If there indeed are issues that need fixing, should I file the low-priority bugs now? Summer vacation may not be the best time for Arch-related work so maybe I should wait until September so that people are back from holidays? Upstream urls: I found that dozens of packages in the repos have an upstream url that prints 'Page Not Found' in one way or another. Should I open bug reports for these packages or does nobody care about it? I could also check if the source is still available. If opening bug reports is OK, should I limit creating the reports to e.g. 10 a day? If I find a url that works, I will include it as a suggestion for the maintainer. For example for https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/autocutsel/ neither the url nor the source is available, but I found what seems like a perfectly good autocutsel website: http://www.nongnu.org/autocutsel/ with a link to the source. Some projects seem to be gone for good e.g. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/apricots/ even grabs the sources from ftp.archlinux.org https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/plain/trunk/PKGBUILD?h… Would http://freecode.com/projects/apricots be a better website? It has some info e.g. that last development is from a decade ago, a screenshot, a longer description ... What about urls that point to a redirect? Is it OK only if the redirect is automatic and otherwise upstream urls should be updated if they moved e.g. from SourceForge to GoogleCode? An example: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/junit/ has http://junit.sourceforge.net/ as the upstream url, but when you go there, it says 'Please see our main site at junit.org'. Is there a rule that 'www' should be omitted or that it should be included? https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/alsa-lib/ : http://www.alsa-project.org https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/alsa-firmware/ : http://alsa-project.org/ What about the slash at the end of the url? Sometimes the slash makes a difference: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/pidgin-toobars/ uses http://vayurik.ru/wordpress/en/toobars/ and shows (via a redirect) the Russian version http://vayurik.ru/wordpress/toobars while the English version demands no slash at the end of the url: http://vayurik.ru/wordpress/en/toobars The same upstream url can be used by many packages and standardizing would make it a bit easier to find which packages need to have the upstream url updated. Are upstream urls mandatory? https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/hwdetect/ does not have one. Package descriptions: There was an attempt at improving the descriptions last year, but it didn't go so well https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/commit/trunk?h=packag… I don't know if maintainers should write package descriptions or should they just take them from upstream, but IMHO e.g. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-v… : 'Description: Virus' has to go. Even https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-w… - Weather or https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/kdetoys-ktux/ - KTux are pretty bad descriptions. Quite a few descriptions could be more informative, but I don't know if anyone cares about it e.g. description for https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/kdeutils-ktimer/ says 'Countdown Launcher' and is IMHO too terse. Should I suggest changing it upstream, will the maintainer change it to a more descriptive one or is it considered just pointless churn? Similarly, https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/kdeplasma-addons-applets-calc… could be described as e.g. 'A simple calculator' instead of the current 'Calculate simple sums'. Is adding 'data files' phrase to descriptions of packages that provide architecture-independent data recommended? I've noticed many packages share the same description, usually because it's a generic one: monica - A monitor calibration tool kdegraphics-kgamma - A monitor calibration tool or because the packages represent different version of e.g. the same toolkit: qt3 - A cross-platform application and UI framework qt4 - A cross-platform application and UI framework Sometimes the descriptions explicitly says it's a python2 thing: python2-atspi - Python 2 bindings for at-spi python2-dbus - Python 2.7 bindings for DBUS Some language-related packages use the same description for all of them e.g. xpdf-korean - Encoding information to use specific character sets in Xpdf; does not include fonts vim-spell-af - Language files for Vim spell checking Other packages, like firefox-i18n-* or libreoffice-* adjusted the description for each package: firefox-i18n-af - Afrikaans language pack for Firefox libreoffice-af - Afrikaans language pack for LibreOffice Is one way preferred over the other or is it up to the maintainer? Should language files always have a description that says which language do they represent or are package names enough? I also found https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/libreoffice-sid/ - ??? language pack for LibreOffice https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/libreoffice-tt/ - TT ? language pack for LibreOffice What's this?

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[arch-general] Kernel bug #60539
by Josh Liberty 31 Jul '13

31 Jul '13

Hi people, I've just had to downgrade my kernel back to 3.9.9 because of this bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60530 Does anyone know when one may expect the fix to arrive at the stable kernel builds? - Josh

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[arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?
by Paul Gideon Dann 31 Jul '13

31 Jul '13

Hi guys, I run a couple of Arch servers, and I'm trying to teach someone how to go about maintaining it (for when I'm not around). The difficulty is that when it comes to package updates that require merging .pacnew files, I always use Vim to merge changes. That's quite a steep learning curve to impose on someone who's not all that familiar with a UNIX environment yet. Does anyone know of any good & simple(ish) alternative for merging files over SSH? Paul

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[arch-general] Apache PID File not readable
by Stefan Tatschner 30 Jul '13

30 Jul '13

Hi, I always get this message after restarting apache via systemctl: PID file /run/httpd/httpd.pid not readable (yet?) after start. I have already used google and I found this: http://serverfault.com/questions/501687/error-pid-file-run-httpd-httpd-pid-… https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32708 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16156761/error-pid-file-run-httpd-httpd-… Any ideas to avoid this message? I can chown the file, but after restarting apache it's the same problem. Apache seems to work fine but the restarting procedure needs a very long time...

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Re: [arch-general] How to safe configs to another path than ~
by John Briggs 27 Jul '13

27 Jul '13

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:51:41AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 18:08 +1200, Ross Hamblin wrote: > > Unless I have missed something I think one of the audio > > session-managers should help you on the audio side, not so sure about > > other apps though. > > Jack-session and ladish work well for me unless I have misunderstood. > > Non-session is also popular although I have not tried that myself yet. > > Hi, > > I've doubts that session managers are that comfortable as a script is. I > might be mistaken. > > I'm starting sessions by a script. I don't like to use jack dbus. > Do those session managers really take care about the configurations in > ~? AFAIK they automatically add changes I make during a session, even if > I make those changes only temporarily or by mistake. When I tested > ladish I was to stupid to use it without a learning curve and I don't > want to add something complicated to my sessions, I also won't something > to add that does need resources, CPU and/or RAM. Following the Linux > audio users mailing list I read a lot of whining about unsupported > applications, somebody lost a production, because he used jack-session > in a wrong way. So IIUC session managers aren't neither safe to use, nor > able to handle all applications. > > I don't want additional GUI stuff on the Desktop, I already avoid to use > even qjackctl and for sure I won't be forced to use patchage or > something similar confusingly. There should be as less Windows as > possible. Several apps should be automatically startet in a terminal > emulation, a script can do this, are session managers able to do this > too? This unfortunately is important, since I never run an audio session > were there wasn't the need to troubleshoot. > > Some audio apps are able to take care about the configurations (the user > can save and restore them giving a path), others e.g. Qtractor don't and > for some apps it's even hard to find the configuration files in ~. > > I don't need something to start the applications, a script can do this > very good, I also don't need something to load songs, samples etc., this > also can be done by a script, I just miss a way to find all hidden > config files in ~ and to safe them to a path were I store the > productions. > > My workaround is to save and restore ~ nearly completely, sure, without > touching e.g. emails. > > It also would be nice, even if it's not that important, if I could use > another configuration profile even for e.g. xfce4-terminal for audio > sessions. > > Regards, > Ralf > I am unaware of what applications you are using but most applications have the option to specify different configuration files than the default $HOME directory so it should be a simple matter of using this option to specify your configuration path. Regards John

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Re: [arch-general] How to safe configs to another path than ~
by Ralf Mardorf 27 Jul '13

27 Jul '13

-------- Cancelled posting -------- On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 18:46 +1000, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > Applications have different means of finding out what the HOME directory > of a given user is. The HOME environment variable is just one of them. > Other popular ones include the function calls getpwuid() and getpwuid(); > they basically read the data from /etc/passwd so your only way to work > around that and pretend having a different home directory would be to > override those calls with LD_PRELOAD... Thank you Gaetan, but this fails too: $ LD_PRELOAD=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1/ /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1/' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Regards, Ralf -------- End of cancelled posting -------- Assumed I would be able to do it, then I need to write new calls that will replace those calls?

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[arch-general] What dirs are good to put in a tmpfs?
by Chris Moline 26 Jul '13

26 Jul '13

Hi, I have 7 GiB of ram but I'm only using 300 MiB, so I thought I would put stuff into it to speed up my system. I installed anything-sync-daemon but I have no idea what to sync. Is there a tool that can tell which dirs are being used the most? I'd rather not guess and benchmark, I don't have the patience for that. What are common dirs that would benefit from being in ram?

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Re: [arch-general] How to safe configs to another path than ~
by Ralf Mardorf 26 Jul '13

26 Jul '13

On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 18:08 +1200, Ross Hamblin wrote: > session-managers Just for the record. No, session managers don't care about the config files. I ask at LAU: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-July/093769.html Regarding to the audio production apps I use, I'm using nearly all popular apps available for Linux and perhaps some less known apps, such as ardour 2, audacity, guitarix, harmonyseq, hexter, hydrogen, jack-rack, jackeq, jamin, jsynth, muse, qsampler, qsynth, qtractor, rakarrack, etc. pp.. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] How to safe configs to another path than ~
by Ralf Mardorf 26 Jul '13

26 Jul '13

Hi, how can I safe configurations to another path, instead of using ~? I need this for audio applications, to restore different audio sessions and to get different profiles for some applications. If I run HOME=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1 xfce4-terminal --maximize by xfce4-terminal the path gets completely ignored, all settings still are stored to /home/rocketmouse and not to the path /home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1. If I run HOME=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1 xfce4-terminal --maximize by the Xfce panel launcher I get "Failed to execute child process "HOME=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1" (No such file or directory)". If I run HOME=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1 gedit something is saved to /home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1, but it doesn't effect gedit. If I change settings, the settings are only used if I run gedit if I run HOME=/home/rocketmouse/alt_profiles/1 gedit gedit starts using it's defaults. The only good, t doesn't use the settings saved to /home/rocketmouse , as it does if I launch it by gedit. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Dns zone in ldap ?
by Olivier BATARD 25 Jul '13

25 Jul '13

Hello, I'm wondering, after some googling, how is the best way in archlinux to manage dns zone and data in openldap directly ? I read about powerdns but the ldap part seems to be unmaintained. So, what is the best way to use ldap with dns on Arch ? Thanks by advance, Olivier.

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[arch-general] Can`t playback other sounds (ie flash, xmms) while on a skype call
by Victor Silva 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Folks seems skype and pulseaudio are blocking all other sound outputs while I`m on a call. When I turn off the skype call the other sounds start to work again. I could find no logs to provide you more info but I will happy to show them as long you point me out what you need. Regards, Victor

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[arch-general] Archlinux ISO signing
by Leonid Isaev 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hi, One of the ways to verify an archlinux iso image is via its gpg signature. However, doing this on an atom/geode system with < 1GiB of RAM is definitely not fun. And I suppose it also takes noticeable time to sign, even on an opteron/xeon server. Is there a particular reason why the images themselves are signed as opposed to only their checksum files? For instance, Fedora provides sha256sums with inline sigs [1], and verifying image checksum + checksum file signature is _much_ less CPU and memory demanding than verifying signature of an entire image. Thanks, Leonid. [1] http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/19/Live/x86_64/Fedora-Live-x86_64… -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] linux-3.10.2-1 in [testing], still broken community modules
by Tobias Powalowski 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hi, I built the kernel, now there are issues with following - community binary modules: cdfs ndiswrapper open-vm-tools-modules Please find patches and fix those, 3.10 will move to [core] when signoff procedure is done. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1: Unable to dock! (ThinkPad X230/KDE)
by mert 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hi, I noticed there's alway an 'Unable to dock' error message after suspend to RAM: Arch kernel: ACPI: Low-level resume complete Arch kernel: PM: Restoring platform NVS memory Arch kernel: Enabling non-boot CPUs ... Arch kernel: smpboot: Booting Node 0 Processor 1 APIC 0x1 CPU1 is up smpboot: Booting Node 0 Processor 2 APIC 0x2 CPU2 is up smpboot: Booting Node 0 Processor 3 APIC 0x3 CPU3 is up ACPI: Waking up from system sleep state S3 ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1: docking ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1: Unable to dock! System info: ThinkPad X230i, Linux 3.9.9-1-ARCH, systemd 204-3, I have tried to set Handle{SuspendKey,HibernateKey,LidSwitch} all to ignore, but I still get the same error message. Any other solution to make that message disappear? Regards.

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[arch-general] Arch Linux on servers?
by M Saunders 21 Jul '13

21 Jul '13

Hi all, I'm writing a feature about Arch for Linux Format, a UK-based newsstand Linux magazine. I've been using Arch myself for a while for testing new app releases, and it's brilliant for that purpose. I'm still left wondering though: who uses it on production servers? I mean, the distro's overall simplicity and trimmed-down base installation are plus points here, but surely a rolling release poses problems. After installation you just want security and critical bug fix updates for software, and not major version bumps, right? www.archserver.org seems to be on hold, and I've also seen this page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Enhancing_Arch_Linux_Stability which has some useful tips. But it'd be interesting to hear from people running Arch on production servers, how well it works for them and what (if any) problems they've faced. Thanks! Mike

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