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[arch-general] AUR xaralx no libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
by Ralf Mardorf 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10896 $ xaralx xaralx: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] pkgbuild depends() can you have both >= <=?
by David C. Rankin 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Guys, Is it possible to have both a 'greater than' and 'less than' dependency on any single package listed as a depends in a PKGBUILD? I want to specify gegl >=0.1.8 and <=0.2 for gimp26. Possible? Man page says: <quote> Entries can also include a version requirement of the form name<>version, where <> is one of five comparisons: >= (greater than or equal to), <= (less than or equal to), = (equal to), > (greater than), or < (less than). </quote> Where the operative phrase is: 'is one of five...' ^^^ Can you list a depends twice? (i.e.: gegl>=0.1.8 gegl<=0.2) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] X server crash
by Genes MailLists 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

The last couple of weeks I have started to get random crashes of the X server - it dies with SEGV. It occurs every few days or so and has no obvious trigger. I think it started about the same time as the update to 3.5 kernel (tho may be unrelated). Bug filed here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30921 When it happens the X session ends and I am back at kdm prompt. gene

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[arch-general] usbmuxd with systemd
by Zhengyu Xu 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

Hello to All, I have a question relating to the new usbmuxd in the testing repo. Actually I have been bothered for months by the fact that udev failed to start usbmuxd automatically after plugging my iphone into lattop since I switched to systemd. In order to work it around, I did some trials to compare the configuration of my laptop, which running archlinux, with another desktop of Fedora 16 in which usbmuxd can be started automatically with systemd as service manager. From the files "85-usbmuxd.rules" and systemd services, especially the ones related to udev, started on both machines, I can not find any difference but the results of connecting iphone to each are completely different. After today's update, the usbmuxd in my laptop worked automatically again and I noticed a new file called "usbmuxd.service" in the package, which definitely has something to do with systemd. My question is why this file is necessary in archlinux. This does not make sense to me because I can not find such thing in Fedora 16 that still work fine with my iphone. Best regards, Zhengyu Xu

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[arch-general] Playback sequence in Amarok-2.5.0-2 gone crazy
by Jayesh Badwaik 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

Hi, I just updated my system and amarok moved from 2.5.0-2 to 2.5.0-5. The net upgrade size was surprizing at -50 MB for this single package. Now, I am observing that the playback is completely illogical. I queued some tracks and amarok does not seem to follow any kind of queue. It plays songs at random, while still displaying the queued songs. In even normal playback (random tracks is the one enabled on my config), the track being played has no relation to the track being displayed. The currently played track does not even appear in three to four positions in even backward of previous track. The only time the song being displayed is the one being played is when I manually start the song. After that, too many times, the playlist advances in display, but that same song keeps playing over and over again. I tried installing 2.5.0-2 back, but it would not play due to it requiring libavformat.so.53 which is now on my computer at 54 version and similar other files. I am trying to access Arch Rollback Machine right now to try 2.5.0-4 and will get back to you about what happens with it. -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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[arch-general] btrfs talking install question
by Jude DaShiell 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

in the install boot loader step I noticed speakup was not mentioned in any of the append lines for btrfs when the configuration file was put into the editor. Will speakup=soft added to the append line enable a talking arch linux installation given everything else was done on the arch linux install mp3 Michael Wapples made some time ago? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware eventually fails; software eventually works, no amount of band width can fix poor design Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

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[arch-general] systemd script at boot?
by jsteel 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hi, Can systemd run a bash script at/after boot without having to install initscripts-systemd for compatibility with rc.local? I assume initscripts-systemd will be depreciated eventually so wonder if there is a native way to do this, or if this is the workaround for now. Thanks, jsteel

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[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
by fredbezies 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello. I've read all the arguments of Tom and Ionut. Here is my own $0.02 on it. When I started using archlinux back in end of 2008, the winning point was this file. A centralized one where you can set up a lot of single options. It is *far* simpler to edit /etc/rc.conf to load daemons or modules than editing 2 or 3 files. "Killing" /etc/rc.conf can't be do so soon. Or you'll see a lot of old users moving their on other distributions. For me it will be a one way ticket to fedora. And I *do hate* this idea. But developpers must know better than users what is the best for the distro. Killing /etc/rc.conf ? Why not. But for me, it is more KISS oriented than /etc/locale.conf, /etc/vconsole.conf, /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf files. As I said, it is my $0.02. Excuse my bad english, I'm no really awake ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] systemd and btrfs
by Shridhar Daithankar 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello All, Just for the sake of archives, I had noted a few days ago, that systemd won't pick up my home partition after an unclean shutdown. The message is available at http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-general@archlinux.org/msg28445.html However, a later and unrelated discussion revealed the problem(I hope so, am no longer on systemd nor am I going to try a forced shutdown), that btrfsck does not honour traditional fsck methods. The thread is here http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/43354 When systemd refused to mount my home partition, it was indeed on btrfs and I could not debug it easily. Taking the advise from the thread, I have set the fsck parameter in fstab to 0, though I am not back on systemd. -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] minbif and systemd scheme
by Caio Prado 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hey guys… I haven’t seen so far any .service file to allow minbif to be executed with systemd scheme rather than initscripts. This is a solution I tried myself and seems to work so I decided to share. It consists of the .service file for systemd and a .conf file for tmpfiles.d so that /run/minbif is always available with the correct ownership. minbif.service: http://pastebin.com/htxMGJk3 minbif.conf: http://pastebin.com/BuYxXRHr Well, it’s very simple but I think it would be nice if minbif package provided it by itself. Hope it will be useful for someone! Bye =) -- Caio A. Prado URBANA LEGIO OMNIA VINCIT “The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don’t.” (Douglas Adams)

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[arch-general] Cannot record video using Cheese.
by fredbezies 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello. Tried to record a video using cheese a few minutes ago, and got this in my console : libv4l2: warning v4l2 mmap buffers still mapped on close() ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'. ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not map buffers from device '/dev/video0' ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not negotiate format ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'. ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not map buffers from device '/dev/video0' ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not negotiate format Any idea ? Tip ? Thanks ! My lsusb : [fred@fredo-arch ~]$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0761 Microsoft Corp. Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0461:0010 Primax Electronics, Ltd HP Keyboard Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub First line is my webcam (working great besides not being able to record anything using cheese) : 045e:0761 = Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000 -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall - does it have dm_mod and dmraid?
by David C. Rankin 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Guys, Does archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall have the dmraid modules and executable that were missing in archlinux-2011.08.19-netinstall? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] gimp 2.8 - How to change gtk controls back to normal?
by drankinatty 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Guys, Working with gimp 2.8, all of the slider controls are now these awkward highlighted regions instead of being normal sliders. How can I change the interface to get the normal gtk controls back. Here is what I see for all the slider controls: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/Archlinux/gtk-gimp28.jpg When you mouseover a control, you get a double-arrow and you can slide back and forth, but you can no longer click anywhere inside the widget and have it jump by '10' up or down as you could before. I use that jump by 10 all the time to adjust opacity, hue, saturation, etc. The new widgets are patently unusable in that regard. Can it be done without a gimp rebuild?

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[arch-general] bad md5sum on archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso?
by David C. Rankin 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

All, Downloading the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso from http://cake.lib.fit.edu/archlinux/iso/2012.07.15/, the md5sums.txt files shows: a40c60ce93efb9dfd9a7353310fed35a archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso However, I get: cc979f9ce51a0ffac73b1f60437ffea6 archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso I'll try again, but can someone else confirm the md5sum for the iso? Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?
by David Benfell 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, So now that I've got a network through systemd, I ran into trouble with some daemon service files that I crafted by hand. None of the following directives will work (culled from different files): ExecStartPre=cd /etc/solr ExecStart=$JAVA_HOME/bin/java -jar $JAVA_OPTS start.jar $JETTY_OPTS >> /var/log/jetty.log 2>&1 ExecStop=kill `pidof -o %PPID /usr/sbin/dictd` 2>/dev/null 1>/dev/null Basically lots of things that would be normal in a shell are problematic. So I need to create separate scripts to start and stop some daemons. I'm thinking I definitely do not want to use /etc/rc.d for this (I had to back out and go back to init and /etc/rc.d is still in use for that). Is there some consensus on where such scripts should go? - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQEv+RAAoJELT202JKF+xp9rAP/1+hg9rapqIp8xI01vJ6Uvyd twIXA5bD3LvGS36FkCTmapdpcNKxGzCgxIoXcST0Qe1uJsrFboTl7LGJ14dmBBqg 05tqpvg6Vv4/tv+ac4S6dIO9uY0SmyzZoQMue5B0cvGvEAb7vcdh+dCjru0/YGis 8Nzsyyv3c/hJE43GIL4buz46cqKhcJqQyJAs8xXBbM50uchr2vpOQ6F2COMs196C 4NeLnPut4Gc5xZJd0cJmS/cqAYd7CYH0UX6gGYfxo9GT+CVoLJmnSeooNiRZZBAN uO/Fq7azsN8jRBWynmS0Ckqt5Dx1ErPyW/J2uj3UinMbg2XeOK2cLbmYAsmWyLIu 9fnWfsllHXEs+phbk4qUerojHDH4p/IQAyNV2FsiLVQmAV0FXKZB39NaM+7ws7z4 X9xbRcWKM8kTAflmPdiaGGmDJ7v8E0yhaB/0IbTbAhM2HDQxUVvgpHZFSyiQbR8T pED90wLp2iv10Jl16K/GRdn6GjMLS4QVftAWdPUyfR9NlLV/wPGVsB4jVmTmLzM5 jw0JJvKyrybZvJP0l/G/mUX+0KxHHcSQaldhTL2q5jlD+ZbHOda1inwgH5Dq+eJ2 ruJDNXYIy0Jy7fa1J3Wh+9FRk9LEo9VEdoQhPzjjhYXZ4qnkwRd5etmUun99v6/2 FX8jWC4EAX6Gb0gq9Fxh =zGji -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] talking arch disk and instructions were both outdated here
by Jude DaShiell 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

I'll have to download a newer copy of the talking arch disk among other things that takes account of pacstrap and uses the arch scripts rather than the framework to install archlinux. The braille instructions I made are also outdated so I'll fix that after some reading. Earlier this morning I got through the partitioning and formatting of a hard drive and since the material I have on archlinux on this end is that outdated, I decided to install debian on the large hard drive only archlinux could install on earlier. Debian would always thrash the disk before. This time no disk thrashing. Apparently use of archlinux to give debian some clues worked. I'll put archlinux on some of my smaller drives in the future when I figure out how to do that now that the talking archlinux I have no longer finds grub to install it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware eventually fails; software eventually works, no amount of band width can fix poor design Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

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[arch-general] Uninstallable Packages
by Jeremiah Dodds 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Sorry if this is dragging up an old topic, but I've been poking around AIF as I'm interested in possibly (hopefully) bringing it up to speed and/or improving it, and I noticed that it's still in the repos, but isn't installable by anyone who doesn't happen to have grub legacy still installed on their system, unless I'm missing something. It seems like we'd want to avoid having to manually remove packages every time it becomes impossible to install a set of them. This might be my unfamiliarity with libalpm or pacman or any other myriad part of the stack, but it seems like the type of thing that could be handled by a utlity and a cron job fairly easily. It also seems like the type of thing that wouldn't be too annoying to deal with manually at the moment, but that could get frustrating for both users and devs down the line. Menial maintanence tasks like that[1] tend to end up sucking down a lot of people's time and energy in the long run, in my experience. If the lack of an automated "dead package remover" is just a "lack of time / patches welcome" type of thing, I'd volunteer to take a crack at writing the thing. If it isn't, I'd really like to know why. Footnotes: [1] unless, of course, it's not actually a menial task, in which case please enlighten me -- Jeremiah Dodds github: https://github.com/jdodds irc : exhortatory

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[arch-general] arduino mega2560 and gcc-avr
by andrea crotti 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

I'm trying to use my arduino mega2560 with arch but there's no way to get it working yet.. I installed the arduino 1.0.1-1, and everything seems to work, until I try to use the Serial, when I get (compiling from gnoduino): avr:5 architecture of input file `/tmp/build1342512569.47XizyI/core.a(HardwareSerial.cpp.o)' is incompatible with avr:6 output collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status I saw about a bug in avr-gcc but it should have been fixed long time ago, and it's probably not the same thing... Anyone got it working?

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[arch-general] rc.conf changes, virtual consoles and initramfs
by Mauro Santos 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

So now that rc.conf was split and the change pushed to the stable repos I have been doing the necessary changes in my system. One problem I have found is that it is not clear how I can configure the system to load (in my case) pt-latin9 and compose.latin1 automatically. This is needed to be able to type things like â and ã. Having KEYMAP="pt-latin9 compose.latin1" in /etc/vconsole.conf will result in an error during boot. Another thing I have noticed is that this change may affect the keymap hook for people that need a fully working mapping, such as people with encrypted root. >From what I understand /etc/vconsole.conf will be sourced by /usr/lib/initcpio/install/keymap, listing both keymaps will probably result in an error that will not be reported since -q is used. Listing both keymaps separately will also not work since only the last attribution will take affect. Am I missing something here, or have I stumbled upon a problem? -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] tmp cleanup problems
by Lukas Jirkovsky 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Hi guys, Today I noticed a bunch of the following (kinda scary) errors on boot: Attempted to remove disk file system, and we can't allow that. rm_rf(/tmp): Operation not permitted And my /tmp is not cleaned up. I guess this is caused by the systemd-tmpfiles. I'm using initscripts. I use separate partition for my /tmp. I have following in the /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf: D /tmp 1777 root root 0d D /var/tmp 1777 root root 10d Is anyone seeing similar errors? Is there a problem with my config, or is a bug? Thanks, Lukas

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[arch-general] systemd and pm-utils
by jsteel 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Hi, When using systemd to handle suspend, it doesn't run hooks in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ which work when running "pm-suspend". My hook is called 01custom and is executable. Is it incapable of handing these suspend/resume scripts or does it have its own method? Thanks, jsteel

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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [RFC, after the fact] initscripts config
by Yclept Nemo 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

3) Personally this depends on the final rc.conf, is [1] or [2] going to be it? I don't enjoy visually collating options across rc.conf (terminal #1,vim) and rc.conf(5) (terminal #2,man). So if after actions (2), and (4), nothing remains but "esoteric" options, then sure, go ahead and do whatever you wish: remove them all or include everything. [1] http://projects.archlinux.org/initscripts.git/tree/rc.conf?id=ae28554e56151… [2] http://projects.archlinux.org/initscripts.git/tree/rc.conf?id=5b062674869c9… 4.1) Are we going to ship default (possibly empty) replacement configuration files, which currently may not exist on many systems, and add these to the backup array? This includes (/etc/vconsole.conf, /etc/locale.conf, /etc/hostname). 4.2) To be clear, is there going to be a separate configuration for the HARDWARECLOCK and TIMEZONE variables? >>>d) The new format does not require a bash interpreter to be read 4.d) I think this is a terrible justification. A programming language embedded in a configuration system grants a lot of possibilities. That in and of itself can generate much controversy. On one hand, it might be better to enforce a strict separation between configuration and code, thus requiring the removal of code into wrapper scripts. On the other hand, blurring such a line could while providing extensibility, in certain situations encourage faux-pas configurations better suited to wrapper scripts. Then is the faux-pas inherent to the programming language or the context of the configuration file? In my defense, I refer to [3] which lists many incorrect idioms. Also there is a sound way to read configuration files written in a programming language - simply evaluate the code. In any case, to preserve compatibility with systemd, the new files (/etc/vconsole.conf, /etc/locale.conf, /etc/hostname) should not contain bash. [3] mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/ 5) With the plethora of changes, each for different reasons, I think there is justifcation for a comprehensive news item summarizing changes to each variable: LOCALE -> /etc/locale.conf HARDWARECLOCK -> deprecated USE_BTRFS -> esoteric, removed for cosmetic reasons etc...

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[arch-general] System hangs at "Booting the kernel" upon drive addition
by pants 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hello, I have a system which is hanging during boot at the line "Booting the kernel" when I have a drive connected to either port of the PCI-Express SATA card I recently installed (chipset ASM1061). When a drive is not connected to the card, the system boots normally, and connecting the drive to the card after booting leads to no errors or other problems. I am running the latest version of linux and linux-headers in the core repository. It is worth noting that I also have an identical SATA card in the same system with two drives identical to the one in question connected to it. This setup has operated smoothly for about six months. Cheers, pants.

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[arch-general] Joining mp3's --> Floating point exceptionffmpeg
by Nelson Marambio 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hi, folks, for joining audio dramas (d/l from Amazon) which come along in MP3-Format I use a short script #!/bin/bash mp3wrap tmp.mp3 *.mp3 ffmpeg -i tmp_MP3WRAP.mp3 -acodec copy all.mp3 && rm tmp_MP3WRAP.mp3 It works for half of my books, processing the other half produces this error message: /home/nelson/scripts/mp3_join.sh: line 3: 15295 Floating point exceptionffmpeg -i tmp_MP3WRAP.mp3 -acodec copy all.mp3 As to my knowledge the script worked fine for a few months then, I think after an update of ffmpeg, the trouble shown above began. Are the MP3 files corrupt or is this a bug in ffmpeg. I'd say it is a bug, because running Windows and MP3 Album Maker it still works fine. OK, I could keep Windows for this scenario but I try to get away from this. Does anyone have an advice for me ? Have the suitable parameters for ffmpeg changed ? Or is the ffmpeg-call obsolete meanwhile (it seemed to be necessary for fixing the audio-header concering track length) ? Thanks in advance, Nelson.

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[arch-general] Testing question
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hey list, Is there a way to enable the testing repo and install updates (with pacman -Suyy) from the other repositories and only install updates from testing if I explicitly mention it with some pacman command? Thanks -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. #include <stdio.h> int main(){printf("%s","\x4c\x65\x6f\x6e\x69\x64\x61\x73");}

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[arch-general] systemd network configuration
by David Benfell 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Because it's summer, and I'd really rather not try to figure all this out during the school year, I'm trying to figure out systemd *now*, rather than waiting until rc.conf goes away. I actually had trouble with rc.conf when I first installed Arch on my Linode. Some daemons mysteriously wouldn't start and I couldn't figure out how to get the networking to come up properly. (And, of course, I was in a hurry.) So I wound up hacking rc.local to bring up both the network and the daemons. (Yes, I know: ewwwww!) This is the shell snippet I'm using to bring up my network now: rc.d start network #successfully gets some address and a route for i in 74.207.225.79/32 74.207.227.150/32 173.230.137.73/32 173.230.137.76/32 do ip addr add "${i}" dev eth0 done ip -6 addr add 2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe96:64e2/64 dev eth0 for j in $(seq 0 1) do for i in $(seq 0 9) a b c d e f do ip -6 addr add "2600:3c02::02:70${j}${i}/64" dev eth0 done done Basically, with the IPv4 address, my intent is to make sure I've got all four of those addresses up. But I wasn't getting a route unless I used the network start script. In my copy of the Arch wiki, I"m not seeing how to do something similar under systemd. How, ideally, should I be doing this? Thanks! - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQD0GKAAoJELT202JKF+xpbMQP/3ADZesFp6+ZAzSItwDdvjJi vUxCgyAXscCymTuTtjYov/lBxoh5/thu4KL2EbYA/F28r4rP0blBUR4Yrhj1jIDn tZJcaoDBY5d7mT+hgI+9rIlGlFvnm+P/cCd8MAebkIiTAmLnurgSZe22Y6kV+VKe nyQFJEWbyGk3O8d9ODtQnpKJ9AJrDY+fsGf/saZP+0KZDjjISHzl9VN81a4WngXP JFeTLXhopSjWYPsECrrK0PE0Q5O524TL90ZuDvNM5BqVIgmQG9FkCzKaWLm2hCYX gLLArdpnpAGse/yHyxBjqtHVtcm0lUD647Z8aJCHkObpQcaeAvwXSblaDcOVxo0L 3WX6qRam75kPABmDNRJPPYCqEPFiSDfdpL87m00v+zFRv+WTPr4X1NurOIomAp5x QVjOlOvnpAbyexXfaWRzYvRpDuSrKbnuxzyDNKmGRPgiRvaWAjansoif4o0ojffh Fw1sxLIWtggEgy0SGWJ/Ke7Z18IYJ7TF/1ZfRAknBIsdjCb8rFSA7byskjwrxWzT rEZ9qzrtB/OKZCYsi+tlGhRiyUJ2j+8g5ujqeLvN1W7FQYd8SEmGyg5zCgYnuKBP Sw/JnsMzvdW16BnqTMLIF5zrQJGzXV81UL101MSjwnXIuWNHAmhChx5I7yObhhYc 7fkFhIf0iSdBES8WX+Dh =WY4X -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] BIND 9 problem
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

hello, I'm trying to set up my own DNS server but I can't... I registered ns1.mydomain.com as a nameserver and I ponted it to my VPS's IP. the I listed ns1.mydomain.com as the nameserver of mydomain.com. I don't know if I've done something wrong with my registrar or my zones/configs are wrong... the logs are absolutely empty! all my confs/zones: http://pastebin.com/z23HRyAh the ONLY thing altered in the confs is the domain thank you in advance! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] fish 2.0.0b2 in [community-testing]
by Bartłomiej Piotrowski 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

As you probably know, fish release available in [community] is very old. Code hasn't been updated since 2009. Official website doesn't work currently, but there was the info that development is stalled. Alex Søndergaard suggested switching to Ridiculous Fish' fork[1]. It provides almost identical set of features, but I'm not sure about compatibility, that's why it goes to [community-testing] first. Current release "beta2" is rather pacman unfriendly, but incoming stable release will be versioned as "2.0", so say hello to fish-2.0b2. Happy testing! [1] http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/ -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/

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[arch-general] Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users
by Jayesh Badwaik 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hi, DISCLAIMER: I support systemd but haven't switched to it yet, because I haven't had time till now, and also because I have some concerns. I like the ease-of-use that systems like PA/Systemd brings but I sincerely appreciate issues like the ones Ralf Mardorf and others have and I sincerely hope there are ways to address their problems well. I have been reading a lot about systemd discussions everywhere, on Fedora, on Arch and everywhere and I guess while the developers have been clear about why they would like to switch to systemd, the users have not been clear 1. Many times in discussions, some valid points by the user have been covered with a "resistance to change" flavor and hence, led to a rebuttal that has not addressed the valid point hidden within. 2. Also, developers work as a team while the users are scattered and hence, every user tries to make a point which is essentially similar to others and hence, gets a same rebuttal but the actual reason he posted the question was because he wanted to know something which was not clarified due to point 1. 3. However more failproof the new system might be, whenever you are shipping it on such a large scale, the guarantee that the users want is for the system to fail nicely. It doesn't matter to me if the systemd has less bugs than the init code, if I encounter that 1 bug, I want have a reasonable guarantee to get around it, and this is what is scaring most of the users I guess. So, I guess here are the points --------------------------- Apparent Simplicity --------------------------- Init scripts had text files while systemd will have binary files to load from. So, there is a point of error in converting the .conf to binary files and I guess, this worries users because, even if they do not know it, they are fearing that the text-to-binary conversion will not be proper (due to various reasons such as some user accidentally editing a file with gedit and setting different encoding and thousands of other reasons) and hence, will end up borking the system. Now I am not sure, since I have not actually used systemd, about how much this point is correct, since it depends a lot on the design of the systemd parser and how the output is, but I would like the following features for the same: 1. Systemd should overwrite the current binary files if and only if it can verify that the new files are correct. So, it can do something like regenerate the text from the binary and then check with the original text or some as the user if the information is correct. 2. Systemd should have a mechanism by which it can fallback to reading the text files and booting from it. I do not know if this feature is really useful since init scripts already do this and hence, you can make it fall back on initscripts instead, but the point is then I would then have to maintain two systems, one which I use regularly (systemd) and one which I do not, and when systemd fail, I would have to use the initscripts which I do not use regularly and hence is a big error-prone exercise. Hence, if the users can have that guarantee (which I think there is) that the systemd configuration files can be used by initscripts to boot an exact system (though slower then I guess) they will be satisfied. and hence, when people say that if systemd fails or you don't like it, just switch back to initscripts, they are not addressing the real concern of the users. ----------------------------------- Single File vs Multiple File ------------------------------------ Most of the users will access their rc.conf files once in a month or so once their system has been setup considerably. I on my personal laptop nowadays only look at rc.conf when there is a pacnew notification. For these users, till now rc.conf was the one-stop service so to say. This concept for them is similar to the one-desk customer service that banks provide where you can get almost all types of manipulations to your accounts at a single desk. This fact is very comforting. Point is at one glance, you can get all you want to know about the system. This is especially true in case of daemons, now with separate service files, you have to look in every service file to check if the files are correct. If there was a single command to print out all the boot info, then probably it would be great, but I guess this tool would be the same one that I described in point 1 in Apparent Simplicity. Then, after every edit and regenerate, I can test my files and satisfy myself that what I have typed is correct. ---------------- DAEMONS ---------------- With respect to daemons, the BEFORE and AFTER in the service files is redundant and though not likely to cause errors, likely to be inconsistent, because for every service file where a daemon "xyz" appears in AFTER, the corresponding daemon must appear in BEFORE in the service file for xyz. I am not quiet sure why this redundancy is there, you can simply have just "AFTER" variables and they should take care of all the dependencies I guess. Thanks for reading such a long mail if you have reached this far! -- Cheers Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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[arch-general] Problems with mouse and keyboard on X
by Sebastian Beßler 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

Hello, I am new to archlinux, coming from gentoo, and have successful installed the system so far. Now I have the problem that when I start X by using startx or startxfce4 (I have only tried this two) I have no keyboard or mouse. I can solve the problem by disconnecting and reconnecting mouse and keyboard. After that everything works fine until I restart my computer. To rule out problems with access rights I even used startx as root, but the same problem exisits. I suspect that something is wrong with udev (as I use evdev for mouse and keyboard) but so far I am not able to locate it. Has anyone some idea or lead for me? Greetings Sebastian Beßler

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[arch-general] How do you extract version from pacman?
by Oon-Ee Ng 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

With the new virtualbox update I had to obtain virtualbox version in a script (and of course, virtualbox binary doesn't have a sane --version parameter...). Anyway, its pretty simple to pacman -Qi virtualbox | grep -e "^Version" | awk '{print $3}' | sed 's|-.||' Perhaps it may be nice to have a pacman flag to obtain just the version string. I'll file a feature request, but before that anyone has an comments on why it would be useless or a bad idea?

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[arch-general] cups 1.6.0 hitting testing
by Andreas Radke 27 Jul '12

27 Jul '12

A major cups update hits testing. Cups has dropped native printer browsing support for Linux OS, you now need to run the avahi-daemon before you start cupsd. Make sure you also cleanup your cupds.conf. My server seems to print well. Clients can see the printers in the print dialog here. Please report broken stuff you may find to our tracker or upstream. Note: Please also test the systemd-socket patch. My server is running initscripts so I can't test it. It has become a mix of the Fedora and the Gentoo patch (no big differences). -Andy

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[arch-general] problems installing package courier-authlib
by Matias Hick 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hey, I'm trying to install courier-authlib but after installation it says "error: command failed to execute correctly". It looks like it's installed but I also have issues trying to start authdaemond (chown: invalid user: 'courier:courier'). For any reason, it's expecting to have the courier user created and it's not. In the archwiki for postfix says nothing about creating that user. Regards. Any idea how to solve this? I'd appreciate your help! Matt. -- Live to fight another day.

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[arch-general] [RFC, after the fact] initscripts config
by Karol Blazewicz 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Re: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-July/023304.html Tom Gundersen <teg at jklm.no> wrote: > At Thomas' suggestion I added a new manpage: ArchLinux(7) Does it have to be CamelCase?

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[arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux
by brainworker＠lavabit.com 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hello, folks Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process of installation and configuration of arch linux. I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anything incorrectly. First. About absence of core images. When I just read about it, I thought why they did it. But then I realize that arch is rolling release system after all. This fact means periodical and quite frequent updates, which are impossible without Internet connection. So if you would like to install Linux on computer without Internet, choose OS with fixed release cycle - all the system packages (as well as applications) will be on that distribution. So I am glad that now there is one universal iso-image instead of six. Second. About absence of AIF. I really sorry about it. As I said I am not so geeky to install everything with closed eyes. AIF helped me a lot. It gives me tips what to do next and how to do it. Now, when burned CD finished loading, I just see prompt to enter commands and nothing else. But I just do not know what to do next. So if I do not have installation guide previously printed on paper, I just become consused what to do next. So, I really hope that to the moment when next iso snapshot will be released, AIF will be fixed and included in that release. But for the present I would like at least to have installation guide included in installation iso (with a note where this guide resides) in order to switch to it during installation. Third. About systemd. As I understand from installation guide on Wiki all the configuration now is made not in rc.conf but in several config files. I do not know yet whether it is good or bad. But in Wiki I can read the following: 1) instead of NETWORKING section I should specify hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. Why should I duplicate information? The danger of need to duplicate information is that it have to be synchronized. 2) instead of LOCALIZATION section I should specify locale in /etc/locale.conf and /etc/locale.gen. Again why should I duplicate information? 3) instead of LOCALIZATION section I should specify timezone in /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime. And again the same question. Why? Besides, where should I specify my network connection settings? In what systemd-specific file? As I understand in ... rc.conf. And what about daemons? Where to specify them? Again in rc.conf? And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of configuration files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? I hope you can make it clear, guys.

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[arch-general] problems
by Matias Hick 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hey, I'm trying to install courier-authlib but after installation it says "error: command failed to execute correctly". It looks like it's installed but I also have issues trying to start authdaemond (chown: invalid user: 'courier:courier'). For any reason, it's expecting to have the courier user created and it's not. In the archwiki for postfix says nothing about creating that user. Regards. Any idea how to solve this? I'd appreciate your help! Matt. -- Live to fight another day.

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[arch-general] Systemd +1
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hey all, I just wanted to share my experience with you. I follow closely the changes and discussion about systemd and I have to say that in the first I was worried also that taken away the basic configuration from rc.conf will be complicated and will cause more pain. I usually enjoy breaking my computer into a point that I have to spend 2 hours reading the wiki or forums to fix it. Now days though I don't have much time mainly due to work. Thus I wanted to get ahead of the migration of initscripts to systemd. I recently made an Archlinux installation on my laptop so the system was quite clean. It was the perfect target for systemd migration. I just installed the systemd and opened up wiki page. I started making configuration changes to the files replacing entries in rc.conf with new files. It was quite straight forward if you know your system and refer back to your rc.conf. When done I removed the intescripts and rebooted. It was that simple. Had a bit of glinches as I didn't enable networkmanager from the start and reboot from inside the gnome didn't work, but now it's all fixed. I recommend to all to try at least once the systemd migration and then express opinions. It's really easy. Maybe it's just my idea but I think the system is somewhat faster on the booting now. Just my opinion but as I see initscripts are abandoned and Archlinux is a bleeding edge distro, it's natural solution to adopt systemd. +1 from me :) Disclaimer: this was done on a laptop a very recent installation, maybe on other more complicated installations it's harder. Leonidas -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. #include <stdio.h> int main(){printf("%s","\x4c\x65\x6f\x6e\x69\x64\x61\x73");}

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[arch-general] lib -> usr/lib
by Ralf Mardorf 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

I laugh away this trouble. Is there any information about the advantages of lib -> usr/lib? I like to read it, after I finished the following occupational therapy [1]. I suspect that if I won't do it now, I have to restore my Arch from a backup? Or can I shutdown and startup anyway? Regards, Ralf [1] [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (1): glibc-2.16.0-2 Total Installed Size: 37.58 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.83 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] (1/1) checking package integrity [######################################] 100% (1/1) loading package files [######################################] 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts [######################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. [root@archlinux spinymouse]# grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/ /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/ld-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libBrokenLocale-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libSegFault.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libanl-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libanl.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libc-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libc.so.6 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libcidn-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libcidn.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libcrypt-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libcrypt.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libdl-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libdl.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libm-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libm.so.6 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libmemusage.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnsl-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnsl.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_compat-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_compat.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_db-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_db.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_dns-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_dns.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_files-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_files.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_hesiod-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_nis-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_nis.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_nisplus-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libpcprofile.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libpthread-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libpthread.so.0 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libresolv-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libresolv.so.2 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/librt-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/librt.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libthread_db-1.0.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libthread_db.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libutil-2.15.so /var/lib/pacman/local/glibc-2.15-12/files:lib/libutil.so.1 /var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/ /var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/ld-lsb.so.3 /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/autofs /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/btrfs-control /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/cpu/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/cpu/microcode /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/fuse /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/mapper/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/mapper/control /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/net/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/net/tun /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/ppp /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/snd/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/snd/seq /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/snd/timer /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/devices/uinput /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/rules.d/ /var/lib/pacman/local/udev-compat-180-1/files:lib/udev/rules.d/30-kernel-compat.rules [root@archlinux spinymouse]# find /lib -exec pacman -Qo -- {} + error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib' /lib/libm-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libc-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/ld-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libBrokenLocale-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libcidn.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_compat-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_nisplus-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libutil.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH' error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.isapnpmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.seriomap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.ccwmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.ofmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.inputmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.usbmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.ieee1394map error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-1-ARCH/modules.pcimap error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH' error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.dep.bin error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.symbols error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.alias.bin error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.alias error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.devname error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.builtin.bin error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.dep error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.softdep error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.2.6-2-ARCH/modules.symbols.bin error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH' error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.isapnpmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.seriomap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.ccwmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.ofmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.inputmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.usbmap error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.ieee1394map error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.1.9-2-ARCH/modules.pcimap error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.0-rt' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.0-rt/extramodules' error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.0-rt/extramodules/vboxnetadp.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.0-rt/extramodules/vboxdrv.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.0-rt/extramodules/vboxpci.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.0-rt/extramodules/vboxnetflt.ko.gz error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-rt' error: No package owns /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-rt/vboxnetadp.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-rt/vboxdrv.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-rt/vboxpci.ko.gz error: No package owns /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-rt/vboxnetflt.ko.gz error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/modules/3.4.2-rt10-1-rt' error: No package owns /lib/modules/3.4.2-rt10-1-rt/build /lib/libSegFault.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_db-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_nis.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/firmware' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/firmware/RTL8192SU' error: No package owns /lib/firmware/RTL8192SU/rtl8192sfw.bin /lib/libc.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libpthread-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libanl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnsl.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_compat.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libthread_db.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libresolv.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libm.so.6 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libthread_db-1.0.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_hesiod-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_nis-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_files-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/librt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libpcprofile.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libpthread.so.0 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libcrypt.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_files.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libdl.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libresolv-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libutil-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_db.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libanl-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libcrypt-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/librt-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libdl-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/rules.d' /lib/udev/rules.d/30-kernel-compat.rules is owned by udev-compat 180-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/devices' /lib/udev/devices/uinput is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/udev/devices/fuse is owned by udev-compat 180-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/devices/cpu' /lib/udev/devices/cpu/microcode is owned by udev-compat 180-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/devices/net' /lib/udev/devices/net/tun is owned by udev-compat 180-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/devices/snd' /lib/udev/devices/snd/timer is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/udev/devices/snd/seq is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/udev/devices/btrfs-control is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/udev/devices/ppp is owned by udev-compat 180-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/udev/devices/mapper' /lib/udev/devices/mapper/control is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/udev/devices/autofs is owned by udev-compat 180-1 /lib/libcidn-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_dns-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libmemusage.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12 /lib/libnsl-2.15.so is owned by glibc 2.15-12

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[arch-general] NetworkManager losing connection related to kernel 3.5 ?
by fredbezies 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hello. I faced a weird bug a few minutes ago. Networkmanager (testing one) lost connection. Restarting it : no more connection either. Got this in /var/log/errors.log Jul 26 13:09:55 localhost NetworkManager[655]: start_monitor: assertion `priv->pid > 0' failed Jul 26 13:20:21 localhost NetworkManager[655]: real_stop: assertion `priv->pid > 0' failed And this in dmesg | tail : [16032.377569] icmpv6_send: no reply to icmp error [16043.380362] icmpv6_send: no reply to icmp error [16043.438144] icmpv6_send: no reply to icmp error [16046.356844] icmpv6_send: no reply to icmp error Could it be a kernel 3.5 related error for ipv6 ? -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Was Re: [arch-dev-public] [mkinitcpio][RFC] a better fallback image?
by Myra Nelson 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Dave Reisner <d(a)falconindy.com> wrote: >>> > As an alternative/addition, which has also been brought up before, why >>> > don't we build in the most basic of modules? I'll bet we can cover at >>> > least 50% of the use cases by picking some choice pata/sata modules >>> > (e.g. ahci, ata_piix, pata_jmicron, sd_mod, ext4) and compiling them in >>> > staticly. It, of course, doesn't cover folks with non-trivial setups, >>> > but it provides a bulletproof bootstrap for a lot of people. >>> >>> I really think this would be a good idea. I wanted to make some >>> additions to pierres pkgstats stuff so we could have an idea of how >>> large percentage of our users would be covered by the modules you >>> propose. I expect the vast majority would. >> >> Sure. I'd love to see the running kernel version and the first column of >> /proc/modules submitted with pkgstats. If we were to reset the global >> stats (or just reset the epoch) and make a concerted effort to have >> people submit (news post, social media, allan's blog, etc) I'll bet we >> could gather some good usage stats from -ARCH kernel consumers in a >> fairly short timeframe. > > Pierre: would something like the attached patch make sense for pkgstats? > > Cheers, > > Tom To all: Sorry to intrude but, after reading this I altered mkinitcpio.conf to use xz compression, used this module list MODULES="i2c_dev i2c_smbus i2c_algo_bit i2c_piix4 drm ttm drm_kms_helper radeon snd soundcore snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_pcm snd_hwdep snd_hda_codec snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_intel pci_hotplug shpchp fuse drm i2c_dev i2c_piix4 i2c_smbus drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit radeon e1000 edac_core sp5100_tco powernow_k8 mperf processor psmouse evdev serio_raw button sunrpc nfs_acl lockd auth_rpcgss fscache nfs wmi usb_common usbcore ohci_hcd ehci_hcd usbhid hid scsi_mod libata libahci ahci sd_mod sr_mod cdrom pata_atiixp floppy fat vfat crc16 jbd2 mbcache ext4" which includes 97% of the modules I use ( lsmod ) and left autodect on. With a stock -ARCH 3.5 kernel the image is 9.2 Mb. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] pacman and corrupt packages
by Shridhar Daithankar 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hello All, Last few days my net connection drops randomly or slows down to a crawl. As a result, there are several timeouts during package downloads. When a download timeout occurs, pacman aborts with "invalid or corrupted package". Is it possible to detect which package is corrupt and invalid, so that it can be downloaded? When it happened with one package, I deleted it manually and next time it worked but when several packages get timeout, its hard to detect the failing one. Does pacman has built-in retry functionality? Here is the complete log. ------------- :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (33): ati-dri-8.0.4-2 boost-libs-1.50.0-2 clang-3.1-3 cups-1.5.3-6 cups-filters-1.0.20-1 dbus-1.6.4-1 dbus-core-1.6.4-1 dovecot-2.1.8-2 gcc-4.7.1-5 gcc-libs-4.7.1-5 git-1.7.11.3-1 gnutls-3.0.21-2 icu-49.1.2-2 imagemagick-6.7.8.6-1 intel-dri-8.0.4-2 khrplatform-devel-8.0.4-2 libcups-1.5.3-6 libegl-8.0.4-2 libgl-8.0.4-2 libglapi-8.0.4-2 libgles-8.0.4-2 libmp4v2-2.0.0-2 llvm-3.1-3 mesa-8.0.4-2 nginx-1.2.2-2 python2-distribute-0.6.28-1 qt-4.8.2-3 qt- gstreamer-0.10.2-2 svga-dri-8.0.4-2 taglib-1.7.2-2 ttf-liberation-2.00.0-1 tzdata-2012d-1 xf86- video-intel-2.20.1-1 Total Installed Size: 515.40 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 1.88 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y (33/33) checking package integrity [#####################################################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ------------- With pacman -sy --debug I get following error snippet ------------- debug: found cached pkg: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: sig data: iQEcBAABAgAGBQJQC9QHAAoJEJRlerIPKgkrd/EH/jhoIY6szxkh3AFGHogBLGe33tIcGhMchGI9jtxEht/Df+IB9X9tYC5nG62pOL9+v0Sl4yVLBW4Ni0mYdwQ0UfJr3Mt1s7C3LbTI1ucU8WZMZicXc8tDKurRnPBDkAqnhK4+H7 4qa6ALNfIDQK7PVQTIedAQDgO9WsPd3DsKcOfNbEXZrDZSBU3awoaQuezKaoif/JnSt7iRXn3hd8piuUgQuLQuksAe+Oa6MtEgXoCHQ22uzXa6nEV1EkO0q1sf8+0w/9+4mD3ejUutfLAQbxqmpfmw3kEuQ1eaICRLRgRu0ugKuwqi9cvdDBiw/27Z1QTkY aUNtvdT66Wb5OuAJGI= debug: checking signature for /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: 1 signatures returned debug: fingerprint: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B debug: summary: valid debug: summary: green debug: status: Success debug: timestamp: 1342952455 debug: exp_timestamp: 0 debug: validity: full; reason: Success debug: key: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B, Andreas Radke <andyrtr(a)archlinux.org>, owner_trust unknown, disabled 0 debug: signature is valid debug: signature is fully trusted debug: returning error 6 from _alpm_pkg_validate_internal : wrong or NULL argument passed ------------- -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] fluxbox + notification-daemon
by Roberto Preziusi 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Hi all, I've some problem with notification-daemon. Trying to start notification-daemon with my fluxbox at startup I get some errors. The problem is when the daemon receive a notification For example if I send something with notify-send: notify-send "hi" "hello this is a notification" I see this notification-daemon crash with this error: (notification-daemon:11776): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed Rilevato trace/breakpoint here my fluxbox startup: ... /usr/lib/notification-daemon-1.0/notification-daemon 2>&1 >> /tmp/nofifications.log & batti & xscreensaver -no-splash & conky & tilda & exec fluxbox -log ".fluxbox/log" There is someone who get same problem here or maybe anyone know how to fix ? *yes I'm Italian :) -- ____________________________________________________________ *Preziusi Roberto*

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[arch-general] Failed to compile Emacs
by Diep Pham Van 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Hello every one, I've tried to compile emacs and fail. You can view the `makepkg -s` ouput here[1]. I think the important part here: ./stdio.h:1030:1: error: ‘gets’ undeclared here (not in a function) In file included from md5.h:24:0, from md5.c:25: ./stdio.h:1030:1: error: ‘gets’ undeclared here (not in a function) make[2]: *** [sha1.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... make[2]: *** [md5.o] Error 1 mv -f .deps/careadlinkat.Tpo .deps/careadlinkat.Po In file included from sha256.h:21:0, from sha256.c:25: ./stdio.h:1030:1: error: ‘gets’ undeclared here (not in a function) make: *** [lib] Error 2 I do not to know what to do here. Any one can help me with this? [1] https://gist.github.com/3112844

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[arch-general] OT: Something good happened
by Ralf Mardorf 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

When using Evolution on Xfce the color theme was broken for a long time. Some text was unreadable. Today it's fixed :). I already thought about switching to LXDE. No need to do so now. Thanx, Ralf

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[arch-general] vboxbuild: command not found
by Ralf Mardorf 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hi, after upgrading, including the switch from /lib to /usr/lib virtualbox still is ok for kernel 3.4.6-1-ARCH, but when I try to build the modules for kernel 3.4.4-rt13-2-rt the vboxbuild command doesn't exist. Until now nothing else seems to be borked. [root@archlinux spinymouse]# uname -a Linux archlinux 3.4.4-rt13-2-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Jul 17 11:32:31 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Qi virtualbox-source Name : virtualbox-source Version : 4.1.18-3 [root@archlinux spinymouse]# vboxbuild bash: vboxbuild: command not found [root@archlinux spinymouse]# ls -hAl /lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jul 7 12:09 /lib -> usr/lib [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ uname -a Linux archlinux 3.4.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 20 08:21:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi virtualbox Name : virtualbox Version : 4.1.18-3 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi virtualbox-ext-oracle Name : virtualbox-ext-oracle Version : 4.1.18-1 Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Still Glibc problems
by P .NIKOLIC 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Right then Hi .. I have followed all there is to follow tried all i can find to try yet i am still getting error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libpcprofile.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/librt-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/librt.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libutil-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libutil.so.1 exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. What has got to be done to solve this once and for all .. lib is a symlink to usr/lib.. # l lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jul 17 16:08 lib -> usr/lib/ pacman -Qo /lib/* Just generates screens full of the below error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/akonadi' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/alsa-lib' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/ao' /lib/apr.exp is owned by apr 1.4.6-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/apr-util-1' /lib/aprutil.exp is owned by apr-util 1.4.1-1 /lib/aspell is owned by aspell 0.60.6.1-1 error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/aspell-0.60' error: cannot determine ownership of directory '/lib/atkmm-1.6' /lib/attica_kde.so is owned by kdebase-runtime 4.8.4-2 And grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc Generates absolutely nothing so what gives .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.4-3-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 3 14:36:44 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[arch-general] linux 3.5-1 - No volume groups found
by Herbert J. Skuhra 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hi, after upgrading to linux 3.5-1 yesterday my computer no longer boots. :( The following error is displayed: No volume groups found I have to run "lvm vgchange -a y" before I can continue booting. -- Herbert

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[arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH
by Arvid Warnecke 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hello, I have already been used to not beeing able to suspend my MacBook Pro since the buggy nvidia version which came with 3.4.x kernel. But as of the latest updates which brought kernel 3.4.5-1 I am not able to use pm-hibernate anymore. When looking into /var/log/pm-suspend.log it seems that hibernating went well: lots of "success" messages and no errors. But when I then start the MacBook again it does not resume but boots normally. fsck detects that disks haven't been unmounted orderly, recovers journal and I am back to a fresh booted system then. I already looked up the wiki about pm-utils and found something about adding 'acpi_sleep=nonvs' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Issues mentioned there with kernel versions around 2.6, which seems to be long time ago now. I tried it anyway, but with no effect at all. Any ideas what might be causing this issue? More fresh bugs in nvidia 302.17-3? TIA, Arvid -- [ Arvid Warnecke ][ arvid (at) nostalgix (dot) org ] [ IRC/OPN: "madhatter" ][ http://www.nostalgix.org ] ---[ ThreePiO was right: Let the Wookiee win. ]---

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[arch-general] rc.local.shutdown equivalent in systemd
by Manolo Martínez 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hello, I've decided to try systemd and see for myself. Anyway, I need to remove a module before shutdown, which rc.local.shutdown did nicely for me. I know there is an initscripts-systemd packages that would allow me to keep using rc.local.shutdown, but the wiki discourages its use and recommends instead using systemd native configuration files. Hence my question: what's the systemd native way to do stuff (in my case, remove a module) before shutdown? Thanks, Manolo --

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[arch-general] LSB init scripts
by Baho Utot 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

I have seen some comments here about LSB init scripts. Anyone know where I might obtain an example LSB script template?

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[arch-general] cups 1.6 translations need some help
by Andreas Radke 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Cups 1.6 will be shipped almost without any translation if things won't improve! If you want to help out don't hesitate. Call for help: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L676 -Andy From the cups-dev list Michael Sweet: The localizations were hopelessly out-of-date. We've already received one updated translation that will get rolled into 1.6rc1, and are hoping for more. As always, localization of CUPS is a volunteer effort... ... Once we hit beta it is unusual for strings to change. The translation process is documented here: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.6/translation.html As for schedule, the earliest we will release 1.6.0 is in about 4 weeks (minimum time from beta to final allowed by our development process), but we can continue adding new localizations in 1.6.x releases as needed. Translators do not need to sign the contributors agreement but the translations do need to reference the standard CUPS license (part of the template file). Apple doesn't actually ship the translations in OS X... I'll be posting an announcement to this effect on the cups.org home page sometime soon.,,

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[arch-general] Upcoming changes to virtualbox
by Sébastien Luttringer 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hello, Some changes will be introduced in the next package release of virtualbox. - vboxbuild will be dropped in favor of upstream provided dkms config. (FS#30692) (FS#30749) (FS#28792) You will be able to build your virtualbox modules by running $ dkms install vboxhost/4.1.18 or you can let dkms rc script compile/install/load your modules with $ rc.d start dkms - vboxweb and vboxservice gain systemd service files (FS#30725) - vbox-service will be renamed into vboxservice and config file is now backuped. (FS#30692) - virtualbox-archlinux-additions add a new group named vboxsf (FS#30725) - a new package (virtualbox-archlinux-source) will allow compilation (via dkms) of virtualbox guest kernel modules. Regards, -- Sébastien "Seblu" Luttringer www.seblu.net

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[arch-general] python needs /usr/include/?
by Christian Hesse 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hello everybody, I am creating live media and want to reduce size. After removing /usr/include/ wicd fails to start because of a missing header file. Is this expected behavior? I thought /usr/include/ is only needed for compilation and not as runtime dependency. -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);}

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[arch-general] Systemd with encrypted Btrfs
by Aurko Roy 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hello all, After all the intense discussions about systemd I decided to try it out and see for myself. I tried it out on my desktop and was quite impressed by it - it was much faster than the earlier initscript. Further when I would background a daemon (say the network daemon) in rc.conf, I would have to wait for a while even after I logged in for the network to start, whereas in systemd I find the necessary daemons have already started by the time I login. However I ran into a couple of problems running it on my laptop: 1. I have an encrypted swap that randomly generates a new passphrase everytime I reboot, but systemd asks me for a passphrase every time I boot. On pressing enter or entering any random characters it proceeds normally. This is more of an annoyance than a real problem. 2. I have an encrypted btrfs partition which it unlocks normally, but while trying to mount says: "fsck: fsck.btrfs: not found fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.btrfs for /dev/mapper/myvolume" and this stops the whole boot process. I have to disable that partition on fstab to get systemd to boot properly. Once the boot process is complete, I can see that the decryption has proceeded normally (from systemctl -a) and can remount it normally in a manual fashion. I initially thought that creating fsck.btrfs as a symlink to btrfsck might do the job, but that doesn't work either. Does anybody have any experience successfully mounting (encrypted or not) btrfs partitions using systemd? Thanks, Aurko

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[arch-general] Delete the package magicassistant-gtk-multi 1.2.5.2-0
by Tanguy ALEXIS 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Hi, Since the package I was maintening (magicassistant-gtk-multi 1.2.5.2-0) is now a doublon of (magicassistant-gtk 1.2.5.2-2), can you please merge the comment and delete it. Thanks,

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[arch-general] Arch's move to systemd integration
by Myra Nelson 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

I've followed this discussion closely and, as can be seen in one of the posts below, I initially objected to it. I had previously tried systemd with little success. Next I carefully re-read all the objections, complaints, rants, raves, etc, and decided to try systemd again. This isn't the place for personal info but I think it's relevant here. I suffer from early onset dementia so it takes me more time to understand documentation and retain information. Most of the time I have to start over everytime I work on something because no matter how many times I've done it, it doesn't stick. That's one reason I prefer the rc.conf file and initscipts, it's easy to understand and keep track off. I posted last night that it took me around 30 minutes reading and editing to get my system booted properly. I was wrong. I still have a couple of minor glitches, but nothing that breaks my system. I firmly believe part of the problem is perception. Previously rc.conf held all the information. On my system rc.conf is 716 B. The three files (hostname 8 B, vconsole.conf 47 B, and locale.conf 30 B) take up less space. Granted at the moment it's more but that will be offset when the move to systemd can be completed. If I understand everything correctly the conf.d and rc.d directorys will no longer be needed as everything will be in /etc/systemd. The amount of disk space taken up should, major caveat, be less because most of the files in /etc/systemd/system/??? are soft links to the acutal files in /usr/lib/systemd/system. Yes, apparently, this changes(?) some of Arch's KISS principle, but maybe it doesn't. Maybe it actually makes it easier in the long run. If you keep /etc backed up, you do don't you, it's a simple matter to set everything up whenever where ever. I think the biggest problems here are "perception", resistance to change - me, possibly some FUD, and no one likes being told what to do. My main motivation for trying systemd again stemmed from realizing I was using the same arguments I fought in another industry for years "We've done it that way for 30 years and it works, why change now". Don't think of it as change, think of it as "evolution". Everyone believes in evolution, don't you? If this provides better integration with upstream developers might that mean less breakage, patched software, less complaints, and less bug reports to deal with for the Arch Devs. I'm proof even old dogs can learn new tricks. I'm open to discussion on any points I made about assumptions of what will and won't be necessary when the systemd integration is completed, ie conf.d and rc.d etc. Links to previous discussions. https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/archlinux%2Fgeneral/138ad0e07444… https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/archlinux%2Fgeneral/138ab21f72d9… https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/archlinux%2Fdev-public/138a6cee4… Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Why was wv2 dropped from extra? wv does _not_ provide the wv2 headers
by David C. Rankin 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

Guys, Why was wv2 dropped from extra? Nothing else provides the headers: wv2 /usr/include/wv2/associatedstrings.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/convert.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/dllmagic.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/fields.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/fonts.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/functor.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/functordata.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/global.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/handlers.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/lists.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/olestorage.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/olestream.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/paragraphproperties.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/parser.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/parserfactory.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/sharedptr.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/styles.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/textconverter.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/ustring.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/utilities.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/word95_generated.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/word97_generated.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/word_helper.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/wv2version.h wv2 /usr/include/wv2/wvlog.h It still builds fine (one glib fix to olestream.h - filed upstream). I was surprised when I went to install dependencies in a new chroot only to find that install failed due to no wv2. Can you guys put it back in extra? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Install scripts
by Fons Adriaensen 22 Jul '12

22 Jul '12

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:01:02AM -0000, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Pierre Schmitz wrote: > New iso images containing a current Arch Linux snapshot have been released and > can be found on our [Download][1] page. I have not used the install scripts so far (probably will in a few days) but been reading the wiki pages, and I think I'm going to like this way of doing things. But it *definitely* goes against anything 'upstream' or 'mainstream'. So if the Arch devs/maintainers are invoking 'upstream' or some general tendencies in the Linux world as arguments for introducing changes, that has to be taken with some grains of salt. You can't say 'A' and '~A' as seems fit without undermining your credibility. Ciao, -- FA Do you know what is on the bottom of the mainstream ? Mediocrity. (T. Mann / L. Visconti).

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Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
by Mateusz Loskot 22 Jul '12

22 Jul '12

On 22 Jul 2012 20:53, "Leonid Isaev" <lisaev(a)umail.iu.edu> wrote: > I wonder why everyone thinks that Archlinux is about a single config file... > It is the same myth as "Arch is faster than distro XYZ" or the "simple BSD init". No myth it is! "Arch's simple init system is heavily inspired by the *BSD way of incorporating calls from a single file (rc.conf) rather than the SysVinit directory structure containing dozens of symlinks for each runlevel." https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux -- Mateusz Loskot (Sent from phone, apology for any top-posting or broken quoting)

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[arch-general] Grub2 config file needs to be tweaked with last official ISO
by fredbezies 22 Jul '12

22 Jul '12

Hello. I've done today an install of archlinux in a virtualbox session. When I installed grub2 using pacstrap /mnt grub2-bios, I noticed that generated grub.cfg is not usable easily. As a workaround, I installed syslinux, and after first boot, I tweaked grub.cfg file. First, I removed "/boot" from both kernel and initramfs lines. After that, I copied the correct UUID from /etc/fstab file. I used my real box grub2 config file to fix this issue. Any idea to get a directly working grub.cfg file ? Thanks. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Install Scripts
by Nicholas MIller 22 Jul '12

22 Jul '12

I just looked over the install script wiki page, and was curious if there was any plan on adding something similiar to AIF where you could browse the avalible packages, I know for me at least during install I may know what i need to install but don't think about it until i read it.

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
by John Briggs 22 Jul '12

22 Jul '12

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 02:11:00PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/20/12 15:34, John Briggs wrote: > > General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:41:08PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > >>> pacman -Su > >>> > >> > >> Not OK: > >> > >>> [root@shack n7dr]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system > >>> upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for > >>> inter-conflicts... > >>> > >>> Targets (1): glibc-2.16.0-2 > >>> > >>> Total Installed Size: 33.94 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.83 > >>> MiB > >>> > >>> Proceed with installation? [Y/n] (1/1) checking package > >>> integrity > >>> [##########################################################################################] > >>> 100% (1/1) loading package files > >>> [##########################################################################################] > >>> 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts > >>> [##########################################################################################] > >>> 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > >>> glibc: /lib exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages > >>> were upgraded. [root@shack n7dr]# > > > > After much investigation the only workaround for this problem I > > could discover and I have used on my three computers this week is: > > > > system reboot : updates system with new packages. This : step is > > critical or you could end up with : a borked system > > > > # pacman -Sfu : This forces the loading of glibc-2.16.0-2 : but > > errors out because /lib directory exists ignore errors : on the > > system. > > > > # /usr/lib/ld-2.16.0.so /bin/rm -r /lib /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so > > > > # /usr/lib/ld-2.16.0.so /bin/ln -s /usr/lib /lib /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so > > > > system reboot > > > > DANGER: If the above procedure is not followed exactly you can bork > > your system and it will need a complete rebuild. An other > > workaround is: > > > > # system reboot > > > > # pacman -Sfu > > > > Ignore errors use a live CD/USB and boot Linux. # mkdir /archroot > > > > # mount /dev/xxxx /archroot : where xxxx is the root partition > > > > # cd /archroot > > > > /archroot]# rm -r lib > > > > /archroot]# ln -s usr/lib ./lib > > > > system reboot > > > > HTH > > > > John > > > > PS: I have not read the complete thread so I do not know if someone > > else has already offered these solutions. JEB > > > > You're using some tricks I didn't know about (there are, I'm sure, > lots in that category), but I don't see how this procedure addresses > the problem of other packages having files in /lib. > It doesn't I didn't have other packages having files in /lib. One of my machines uses wifi and I had to update the carl9170-fw package so it was installed to /usr/lib. The residual entries in /lib was the modules and firmware directories. I was only seeking to get these systems working not on why they weren't according to the news. I followed the links to manual installation and got most of my information from there and I followed most of the sublinks too. I made an error in the above procedures: all instance of /usr/lib/ld-2.26.0.so should be replaced with /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so The system reboot is the critical step as it sets the system into a known configuration and prevent it from borking on the next step. If it is critical to know what packages are causing the problems use # pacman -Sfu and see whats left in the /lib directory or subdirectories. You'll probably find its the proprietary drivers that you use. Regards John

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3
by Sam Mulvey 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Did you even bother to read what Tom wrote? You can still use your old > rc.conf. It is just recommend to use the new config files instead. This > makes using initscripts and systemd in parallel easier. And there are > not 9k config files but three. I've read what Tom wrote both here and in the man page, and he's talking about the ArchLinux /etc/rc.conf as "the old way" and people being "gently pushed" toward using the new configuration files. In my experience, that's a step on the road toward deprecation and non-support. For those of us who are well served by the rc.conf way of doing things, this could be a cause of concern, and now seems like an appropriate time to speak up. I would prefer to run systemd as little as possible. A central config file and reasonably transparent init system fit my case much better. -Sam

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[arch-general] Was [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3
by Myra Nelson 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Evangelos Foutras > <evangelos(a)foutrelis.com> wrote: > > I find removing most of the variables to be confusing and would > > suggest that [1] and [2] get reverted. > > I'm not going to revert them outright, but we can discuss individual > options (some clearly must go, others are a matter of taste). > > > My counterargument is the nonexistence, in the previous rc.conf, of > > default options that would need to be changed in a way that is > > transparent to the user. > > I guess I should have pointed out that I'd like a way to update the > comments about each of the options frequently (mainly to add warnings > or explanations as we realise them), but when the comments were in > rc.conf that would create .pacnew files, which is annoying. I'd also > like new users to have to read the manpage before they decide to use > any of the discouraged options, so they will at least know the > alternatives. > > > Moreover, stuff like TIMEZONE, LOCALE and MODULES should be included > > in rc.conf; nobody really wants to run their system with the default > > LOCALE=C, and quite a few people will want to load extra modules (in > > my case vboxnetflt), without messing around with other files > > (/etc/locale.conf) or adding variables back into rc.conf, > > respectively. > > I agree that most people would want to configure /etc/locale.conf and > /etc/vconsole.conf (or their equivalents in /etc/rc.conf). This is a > matter of taste, but I'd really rather we start only using the two > former files for this purpose. A benefit I did not mention yet is that > they allow a lot more options than what rc.conf ever did. > > As to modules: This should really not me necessary these days, and in > the cases it is, it is something we should consider fixing. With > kernel 3.5 the last of the mainline modules that I'm aware of (kvm) no > longer needs to be specified manually. > > In the case of virtualbox, I think the simplest solution here would be > to load the needed modules whenever virtualbox is installed. I.e., > ship a file with the virtualbox package > (/usr/lib/modules-load.d/virtualbox.conf) containing > > vboxnetadp > vboxnetflt > > (and whatever else is needed) > > > In conclusion, a) the existing rc.conf is already stripped down to the > > essential system configuration options, b) I like having a default > > structure of these options in rc.conf instead of adding them back in > > at random places (in rc.conf), c) if we want to shift the task of > > configuring the hostname/locale/keymap/etc to external files, it might > > be preferable to remove them completely from rc.conf instead of having > > multiple points of truth. > > a) this is not the case. The current rc.conf contains several > redundant and at least one harmful setting (HARDWARECLOCK). > > b) fair enough, though does not seem like a major issue. > > c) I'd like to do this in the long-run, but we can't just rip out the > old support over night (see the old network settings or the crypttab > changes for how I'd like these things to be done). > > > (The above is my view on this change after spending 10 minutes trying > > to figure out how I can load modules through /etc/modprobe.d, after I > > noticed that MODULES was removed from rc.conf. In my defense, I > > thought it could be similar to the time MOD_BLACKLIST was dropped. :p) > > rc.conf(5) points to modules-load.d(5)[0]. > > -t > > [0]: <http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/modules-load.d.html> > Tom: The concerns expressed by Evangelos and Tobias were some of the concerns I had when the push towards systemd started. Systemd is great if you are managing a large number of computers, but excessive overkill for one or two desktops with no server. The network setup is probably great for laptops also, but not in my instance. I get to learn to do it with iproute2. The simplest possible configuration for that setup is rc.conf. I'm not attempting to be a luddite, but something about this seems to violate the Arch KISS policy. Users of desktop systems shouldn't be forced into something like this. One of the reasons I chose Arch was the simplicity of setting up my system and not having some built in utility bork it for me. I find Arch much easier to set up and maintain than Fedora, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, etc, etc, etc, and I wasn't forced in to their philosophy of setting up a "CORPORATE", yes I'm screaming, desktop. Currently Arch provides simple control mechanisms in central locations, and IMHO should stay that way. Please pardon my intrusion on a developer discussion, as I truly have no say in the matter. Just thought I'd toss in my 2 cents. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems
by John Briggs 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:41:08PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > pacman -Su > > > > Not OK: > > > [root@shack n7dr]# pacman -Su > > :: Starting full system upgrade... > > resolving dependencies... > > looking for inter-conflicts... > > > > Targets (1): glibc-2.16.0-2 > > > > Total Installed Size: 33.94 MiB > > Net Upgrade Size: 0.83 MiB > > > > Proceed with installation? [Y/n] > > (1/1) checking package integrity [##########################################################################################] 100% > > (1/1) loading package files [##########################################################################################] 100% > > (1/1) checking for file conflicts [##########################################################################################] 100% > > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > > glibc: /lib exists in filesystem > > Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. > > [root@shack n7dr]# After much investigation the only workaround for this problem I could discover and I have used on my three computers this week is: system reboot : updates system with new packages. This : step is critical or you could end up with : a borked system # pacman -Sfu : This forces the loading of glibc-2.16.0-2 : but errors out because /lib directory exists ignore errors : on the system. # /usr/lib/ld-2.16.0.so /bin/rm -r /lib # /usr/lib/ld-2.16.0.so /bin/ln -s /usr/lib /lib system reboot DANGER: If the above procedure is not followed exactly you can bork your system and it will need a complete rebuild. An other workaround is: # system reboot # pacman -Sfu Ignore errors use a live CD/USB and boot Linux. # mkdir /archroot # mount /dev/xxxx /archroot : where xxxx is the root partition # cd /archroot /archroot]# rm -r lib /archroot]# ln -s usr/lib ./lib system reboot HTH John PS: I have not read the complete thread so I do not know if someone else has already offered these solutions. JEB

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[arch-general] TeXlive 2012 packages
by Rémy Oudompheng 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

Hello, I am going to put Texlive 2012 packages in [testing]. Texlive 2012 is not yet released, but it is frozen, so I do not expect changes to these packages except to fix packaging errors. Please try them and complain on mailing lists. Don't hesitate to compile your own theses, memoirs or books. Regards, Rémy.

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[arch-general] glibc 2.15 -> glibc 2.16 New Build Failures (scope primarily) Expected??
by David C. Rankin 21 Jul '12

21 Jul '12

Guys, After going though the usrlib/glibc update and creating a new archroot for building, I am getting build failures in trinity k3b and k9copy. Both packages built without error on 7/14 prior to my update. Following update I experience the following: k3b: summary: k3bffmpegwrapper.cpp:131:63: error: 'dump_format' was not declared in this scope k9copy: summary: k9avidecode.h:35:91: error: 'AVFormatParameters' has not been declared Two questions (1) are new build failures expected as the result of glibc 2.15 -> 2.16 update that require source updates; (2) is anyone else experiencing this on project they are working with? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman
by Thorsten Jolitz 20 Jul '12

20 Jul '12

Hi List, when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply follow the same steps as if there would be no old version on my machine and pacman takes care of everything? -- cheers, Thorsten

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[arch-general] Virtualbox-modules are again busted with new testing kernel
by fredbezies 20 Jul '12

20 Jul '12

Well, looks like Ionut Biru forget to rebuild virtualbox modules. Both vboxdrv and vboxnetflt cannot be loaded. A rebuild of virtualbox-modules fixed it :) -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] haveged and Secure Cryptography
by David Hunter 20 Jul '12

20 Jul '12

Does anyone know if haveged significantly affects things like truecrypt, cryptsetup, RSA, or SSL if you happen to leave the daemon running for long periods of time? I'm sure that it's always going to be "random enough", but I often make use of Archlinux in forensic environments involving encrypted disks and files or transferring things over SSL, so I do need to know if there is even a theoretical weakness in my environment in case my tools and methodologies are called into question. Thanks -- David Hunter

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[arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?
by Tobias Powalowski 19 Jul '12

19 Jul '12

Hi, I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own posts to mailinglists? I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown. Thunderbird does not have this issue. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?
by mike cloaked 19 Jul '12

19 Jul '12

I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc partitions and partition from scratch I can create a 2MiB partition (using MBR and NOT GPT partitioning) before the first formatted partition on the HD and install grub2 during the base install. However can someone please tell me explicitly if, for a system with only BIOS (no UEFI at all), and no GPT partitioning but just plain old MBR partitioning - is the recommended 2MiB post-MBR gap still a "requirement" for that specific situation for grub2 to work? I can't find that as an explicit statement in any of the documentation that I have read for installs/grub2/partitioning! i.e. does grub2 still need to embed the core.img file in the post-MBR gap as the preferred and dev recommended approach in this case? The reason I would like to have that explicit answer is that if I want to install arch on a machine which has a pre-existing NTFS partition, and possibly host-protected partition as well for Windows recovery, at the start of the drive, then if the 2MiB post-MBR gap is a requirement (rather than a nicety) for grub2 with BIOS and MBR partitioning (but no GPT partitioning or UEFI) then unless the drive is re-partitioned and the NTFS partition reduced in size and moved out by 2MiB then there could be problems? However doing that partition jinking about might itself lead to a few issues! I am going to do an install with new partitioning on an old laptop to check that I can successfully use the new install system (without AIF) and hopefully that will work, but I also have other machines with existing and important (to me) Windows partitions that I would really like to NOT corrupt when installing arch to the partitions on their drives. The other reason I am asking this question is that I also have existing dual boot laptops with Windows XP and arch with BIOS and MBR partitioning - and at some point it would presumably be sensible to move from the existing grub to grub2 - and on these systems where I have already checked that there is only a 64 sector post-MBR gap - will this lead to problems if I change from grub to grub2 if I don't change the partitions to have a 2MiB post-MBR gap? Thanks for any help on this - I have been doing reading and trying to prepare without looking an idiot and being a good arch admin, but there is quite a lot to read and I still can't find the answer to the explicit question above! -- mike c

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[arch-general] New glitch since latest update
by P .NIKOLIC 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Hi folks . Well having finally got the Glibc thing sorted and done a "pacman -Syu" which pulled in kernel ect when i try to start Kaffeine it takes almost 2 mins to finally show up , When started from an xterm i get the following errors QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory vo_vdpau: Can't create vdp device : No vdpau implementation. [pete@7-of-9 ~]$ net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed mode net_buf_ctrl: prebuffering... net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100% @ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 99.5% @ audio 480 ms 4 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100% @ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers Running the nouveau driver Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 16 21:35:54 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[arch-general] Glibc problem
by The Touch 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

I force updated glib and now I've got an awesome kernel panic! :) switch_root: failed to execute /sbin/init: no such file or directory any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance!

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[arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.
by fredbezies 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Hello. Just done an install using arch-install-scripts, and it wasn't so bad. The only bad thing is that grub2 is not available. I busted my installed system trying to install grub 2.0rc1 (wrong UUID in grub.cfg file). I finally installed syslinux while trying to understand what happened. So, great tools, not really that hard to use. Here are my questions : 1) Any hope to get grub2 as default grub in a future version ? 2) What about GPT tools ? 3) What about tweaking /etc/rc.conf before first reboot ? Thanks for your kind answers. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] ~2 sec delay for Sound events in TDE - need help solving
by David C. Rankin 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Guys, I have TDE building on fully updated Arch, but I'm trying to track down a 1-2 second delay I'm getting with sound events. This doesn't just affect the latest TDE, but also began to effect older installs a few months back. I have the default sound config presently. I have the following packages installed: alsa-lib 1.0.25-1 alsa-plugins 1.0.25-2 alsa-tools 1.0.25-1 alsa-utils 1.0.25-3 alsaplayer 0.99.81-4 libpulse 2.0-2 pulseaudio 2.0-2 pulseaudio-alsa 2-1 The mixer in TDE uses pulse with only a single record and playback volume adjustment. I have experimented with different /etc/asound.conf settings and differing settings in ~/.pulse (via the alsa, pulse & sound wiki pages), but have always found that the defaults work just about as good as anything. For some unknown reason, I get a slight delay between the triggering of a sound event and the actual sound. I understand this is due to different software wanting to control the hardware at the same time from the thread about skype audio from last week. What I need to know is whether anyone on the list has experienced this scenario before and has perhaps found a solution. I have the system hardware listed below. Let me know if you have any pointers or solutions. Thanks. Sound system hardware: 14:20 supersff:~> cat /proc/asound/pcm 00-00: Intel ICH : Intel ICH6 : playback 1 : capture 1 00-01: Intel ICH - MIC ADC : Intel ICH6 - MIC ADC : capture 1 00-02: Intel ICH - MIC2 ADC : Intel ICH6 - MIC2 ADC : capture 1 00-03: Intel ICH - ADC2 : Intel ICH6 - ADC2 : capture 1 00-04: Intel ICH - IEC958 : Intel ICH6 - IEC958 : playback 1 14:45 supersff:~> aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 14:46 supersff:~> aplay -L null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) pulse PulseAudio Sound Server default Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) sysdefault:CARD=ICH6 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 Default Audio Device front:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 Front speakers surround40:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers iec958:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 - IEC958 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Trinity - post usrlib move - builds fine!
by David C. Rankin 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Just a note for those interested in the trinity project, After the usrlib move, TDE builds fine, including koffice. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Kernel verbosity
by Sudaraka Wijesinghe 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Hi Everyone, I'm playing with a custom kernel just for the fun of it, Everything works fine except it's very noisy when it boots. I'm using the same loglevel (4) as the default kernel that is in the Arch repo. And I have turned off many debug options under kernel hacking section. It does quiet down when I add the "quiet" parameter to the kernel command line. What I was wondering is how the Arch kernel is keeping it quiet without using the command line parameter (quiet), is it using a patch for that or something? Thanks, P.s. Messages I get are hardware probing, state changes and file system mount, etc. -- Sudaraka Wijesinghe

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[arch-general] TexLive custom classes problem.
by Jayesh Badwaik 18 Jul '12

18 Jul '12

Hi, I am unable to get custom .cls files detected by the latex program. I have a file "jbnotebook.cls" which works fine when it is placed in the same directory as the the file main.tex. So, the file itself is not a problem. Also, [me@localhost]$ kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME /home/jayesh/.local/share/texmf So far so good. I have placed my file jbnotebook.cls at the following location /home/jayesh/.local/share/texmf/tex/latex/jbnotebook/jbnotebook.cls Also, for sake of trying to make things work, I have the following file /home/jayesh/texmf/tex/latex/jbnotebook/jbnotebook.cls And texhash has been run on both the texmf folder and they contain ls-R which is correct. Now, [me@localhost]$ kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMF {/home/jayesh/.texlive/texmf-config,/home/jayesh/.texlive/texmf- var,!!/home/jayesh/.local/share/texmf,!!/etc/texmf,!!/var/lib/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf- dist} And still when I run the latex command, it tells me that the jbnotebook.cls is not found. What can be the problem? -- Cheers Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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[arch-general] problems with wifi b43 (broadcom)
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hey all, I am setting up an archlinux on my laptop (Dell Latitude E4300) with Broadcom Wifi: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) I had to load the firmware for the driver so I did from the AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21690 I can't seem to be able to get an IP. I am including the logs as well. I tried disabling the ipv6 with no luck (so I revert it). I tried with a usb wifi card and it's working fine. Any suggestions? Regards Leonidas -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. #include <stdio.h> int main(){printf("%s","\x4c\x65\x6f\x6e\x69\x64\x61\x73");}

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[arch-general] /lib to /usr/lib : custom kernel
by set 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hello, I updated one machine following instructions on archlinux.org and the process was flawless. That machine was running the Arch kernel. I dare not do it on another machine running a custom kernel. Will a system update break the setup because /lib/modules contains a kernel not managed by pacman ? If so, how to proceed ? Should the custom kernel be removed first ? Thank you.

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[arch-general] Installing without using AIF?
by mike cloaked 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Given the significant changes to key packages in recent times as well as the main AIF developer leaving I thought I would start looking at how to do a clean install without reference to AIF. There are new isos now available which have dropped AIF in favour of the arch-install-scripts but as yet I have not seen much documentation with guidance on installs from scratch that would be easy to follow without leaving out key steps. Does anyone know of any new wiki entries or other step by step guides available that would allow someone like me with 10 years of linux experience, but with only experience of arch in the past year, to run a standard arch base install for a laptop or desktop, which has BIOS boot (no UEFI) but using grub2 (since that looks like the standard in the future) rather than grub, with standard old style partitioning (i.e. not GPT), and ending up with a dual boot system with its original Windows XP bootable as well as the base arch system bootable, and ready to then configure as a usable customised system later? Thanks -- mike c

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[arch-general] DeveloperWiki:usrlib - Note -> rebuild any needed packages *before* attempting update
by David C. Rankin 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

All, After working through the glibc update on several boxes, there should be a _note_ added to the wiki. You should check the ownership of files in /lib _before_ attempting any part of the latest update with: $ find /lib -exec pacman -Qo -- {} + You will need to rebuild _all_ custom packages _before_ issuing: # pacman -Syu --ignore glibc Or you will be left _unable_ to rebuild the packages until you have finished the update due to the state of your system after pacman -Syu --ignore glibc. I know most of you know this, but for anyone who simply follows the wiki and gets to "Issue 2: The final "pacman -Su" still has conflicts in /lib" -- it will be too late at that point. At this point, just complete the update by whatever means necessary to get the remaining non-glibc owned files out of /lib, complete the update, then rebuild what you need. I didn't add the note to the wiki. I can, but don't want to do so until getting any feedback here. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.
by fredbezies 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] crazy mount process
by Andrea Crotti 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

I just finished to get my computer running again, I did a "pacman -Suf", and the glibc issue made my machine unusable.. Anyway I fixed that easily without reinstalling anything luckily, but now on reboot I see something very strange. There is a process running and keeping my machine busy: 357 root 20 0 10700 1004 856 R 99.7 0.0 7:01.50 /bin/mount -o relatime /dev/sda3 /media/usbhd-sda3 but /dev/sda3 is not even a real partition "/dev/sda3 240975 625137344 312448185 5 Extended I can't kill that process and don't understand where it comes from... any idea?

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[arch-general] Glibc problems still failing
by P NIKOLIC 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi . Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade glibc i get this error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem Plus a few more how do i get round this please it is also preventing Claws-Mail from sending mail Thanks .. Pete .

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[arch-general] login fails after update
by Fons Adriaensen 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hello all, I did a complete upgrade following the instructions w.r.t. the /lib symlink, and indeed ended up with pacman -Su saying 'nothing to do' and /lib being a symlink. On rebooting I get the login prompt on tty1..6, but after entering a login nothing happens (no passwd prompt) and after a few seconds the screen is cleared and the login prompt returns. Any ideas ? -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] Fwd: arch-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 66
by fredbezies 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

First of all, sorry for this "all-in-one" answer, I do have to set options :| [...] >I think you want to use ArchBoot, the oldest oficial setup. I do have an archboot iso on an usb key. [...] >Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + >lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, then I >guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and get it >into shape again. If I had the technical background, I would have done it :D >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >I think this is a good thing (once we have proper documentation). It >forces users to understand how their system is set up, and how to fix >it in case of problems. Unlike with other distributions (e.g. Ubuntu), >I think this is a necessity when using Arch, and making this clear >from the beginning should hopefully save both us and users from lots >of grief. I do agree. But those kind of breakage are not that current. Using archlinux since end of 2008 it is the first hard upgrade I faced for a long time. And of course, it will help users showing them if archlinux is a distro for them or not. [...] > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib >to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most people who are >uncomfortable partitioning their disk manually (or unwilling to learn) >will not grow to enjoy Arch as a distribution. I do agree. Having a wrapper around these scripts could an answer in a way. And many many problems for /lib are related to 3rd party packages. [...] >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >> >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >> >Archboot: >https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot >https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541 My favourite ISO :) >It uses a working installer for quite everything. I do agree, even if grub2 install is kinda busted. I reported a bug related to this issue => https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30565 >For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use, Full systemd ? Yummy :D >I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first. >greetings >tpowa Thanks for the info, Tobias ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux & glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?
by David C. Rankin 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Tom, All, I see the glibc /lib move is out of testing. I updated with --ignore linux,glibc and received an install warning from kmod stating: ==> Kernel modules are now only read from /usr/lib/modules... My modules are still shown in /lib. Does this mean I cannot reboot safely and expect it to work? Since I wanted to delay install of the new kernel and glibc, should I also have excluded kmod? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] must be root to ping?
by David Benfell 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Did I miss something? I now have to use sudo in order to ping: graton% ping 10.1.0.1 ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted graton% sudo ping 10.1.0.1 PING 10.1.0.1 (10.1.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.407 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.345 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.361 ms ^C - --- 10.1.0.1 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2997ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.345/0.370/0.407/0.022 ms I thought maybe this was related to the glibc mess, so I finished cleaning that up (now everything is in /usr/lib with a symbolic link created for /lib), but that annoyance made no difference. - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQAYYJAAoJELT202JKF+xpJPgP/AhURBfrWADG1eR7Pt2dhaXD twMwg4XSV9FzYM3AMZp4frTRAt/oYIZDD/VXxg6BNoJAt+woKoPI+8Zlj4b2ndNJ DaSBf5ckJAYVHrRzNH3OuCxOudGzPZ9mrJBEpH7SVzx6IOEYSL3U+rRbWrMo0uYf utwpOhbJX2d4EuTggWoON8Iayglz/UB4SQJAuO3gm9+/cDGk6s/1is0n1k42t0iA J84FfH4XUdvDZoJl6f2pAq4tV+Xv2IGnsCWWEh6/ry59r4q5vv2j00K4BWy8DwA4 078bPW24kGR1uRipVW9RvmEa9SkQJ4F35+YoJF4vXU7nOqpLrrObOX0eYwQCT5s5 wsO6FkQvzUiDmL6t2/l2VhCd6KUsWXowR4gyslx4+064SYO2OIfA1ikwxpwMAUJO JXuj3AApauw96QAk//aHI0823WIkS32nh1yhtwBqofoKz3RG91nRsTJfHt1q9f7H etN2D1BRx8MHsTyetPNP8uEu7zLgieA4OXvJr0fAV3RHZFTZLE1RKJF6SpdafCBc UzobDRWBNz31mF5GepLAgsfctTlmy3em336o65voVjdmRdKuTLFkLPIhCaEY7s92 h3pnr3wyxH9KuP50s8wCjJYvD63wSfWbo7kCrsI+C9fqHQ4DTrYTNscioT+Gw8Os vXrWn3f3bH8PjbZSyNyw =l0bB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Download wiki arch!
by Omar Basit 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

Hello, I've begun to use arch instead of Ubuntu, and it seems great, especially the (wiki.archlinux.org) but it is only available online, and I am in need of an offline source with such rich information, I did some googling, but all I get is how to download Wikipedia, or using of websucker.. So, is there anyway I can download wiki.archlinux.org, or anything equivalent? Any advice would be appreciated! Best regards.

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[arch-general] rpcgen - cannot find any C preprocessor?
by David C. Rankin 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

All, I have a new build error with tdebase (kdebase) in trinity that I think is the result of a hardwired path somewhere and some recent gcc change. The error I get is: [ 49%] Built target libkmanpart-module [ 49%] Generating nfs_prot_xdr.c cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) rpcgen: C preprocessor failed with exit code 1 ?? It has always built without issue. Looking, I find https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1126084#p1126084 which references a hardcoded path problem in hamlib that was fixed by providing specific path information to rpcgen. My question is, has there been some change to gcc that would be expected to cause this type error? I ask to confirm this before I start hacking the TDE build files on my end. Has anyone else seen this issue pop up lately? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version
by andrea crotti 13 Jul '12

13 Jul '12

I would like to create multiple arch linux installations with a specific (a quite old 2.6 version) kernel version. Is that in theory possible/easy? I have a new one recently created but the downport doesn't seem so easy, so maybe it would just be easier to start with an older one, any suggestions??

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [arch-commits] Commit in util-linux/trunk (PKGBUILD util-linux.install)
by Cody Maloney 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

I just managed to hit it on one of my arch boxes: (24/26) upgrading util-linux [########################################################################################] 100% rmdir: failed to remove ‘/var/lib/hwclock’: No such file or directory error: command failed to execute correctly Cody On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 12/07/12 08:11, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 @ 18:11:46 > > Author: tomegun > > Revision: 163378 > > > > upgpkg: util-linux 2.21.2-4 > > > > move adjtime from /var to /etc > > > > This will allow some cleanup of initscripts, and is assumed by systemd > already. > > > > Added: > > util-linux/trunk/util-linux.install > > Modified: > > util-linux/trunk/PKGBUILD > > > > --------------------+ > > PKGBUILD | 1 + > > util-linux.install | 8 ++++++++ > > 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+) > > > > Modified: PKGBUILD > > =================================================================== > > --- PKGBUILD 2012-07-11 22:11:15 UTC (rev 163377) > > +++ PKGBUILD 2012-07-11 22:11:46 UTC (rev 163378) > > @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ > > pam-login > > pam-common) > > backup=(etc/pam.d/chfn etc/pam.d/chsh etc/pam.d/login) > > +install=util-linux.install > > > > build() { > > cd "${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}" > > > > Added: util-linux.install > > =================================================================== > > --- util-linux.install (rev 0) > > +++ util-linux.install 2012-07-11 22:11:46 UTC (rev 163378) > > @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ > > +post_upgrade() { > > + if [ "$(vercmp $2 2.21.2-4)" -lt 0 ]; then > > + if [ -f /var/lib/hwclock/adjtime ]; then > > + mv /var/lib/hwclock/adjtime /etc/adjtime > > + fi > > + rmdir /var/lib/hwclock > > I have seen this not removed because it was not there in chroots. Not > sure if it can happen on a real system... but if so, it needs an "if [[ > -d ..." > > > + fi > > +} > > > > > > > > >

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[arch-general] How to install AfterShot Pro for 64-bit from deb?
by Mateusz Loskot 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Hi, I have been trying to install the AfterShot Pro from AUR packages, full story is here [1]. It uses RPM-packaged i386 binaries. Because I run Arch 64-bit, I'd prefer to install 64-bit binaries, but those are available as Linux Debian (64-bit) deb package [2] I've been trying to find out how to install .deb package on Arch, but all recipes I found are out of date now. Could anyone explain me how to install AfterShot from the deb package? [1] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2012-July/019551.html [2] http://apps.corel.com/lp/aftershot/download/index.html Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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[arch-general] Arch's policy on the LTS kernel
by Diogo Sousa 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Hi, I was unable to find any information regarding the Arch's policy on the LTS kernel, specifically, what determines when the current lts version is replaced by the next lts version? Thank you, Diogo Sousa

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[arch-general] Upgrading password hashes
by Kevin Chadwick 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

I know arch tries to keep to upstream but their seems some discrepencies that you may or may not be aware of so thought I'd share. The crypt man page says glibc may not support blowfish (stronger than nists recommendation) and that seems true when used via the commandline (very short output). The arch wiki says you can use a library from AUR. There is also a sha512 arch wiki which says you should edit pamd.d/passwd from md5 to sha512 but the default seems to already be sha512, maybe it tries both as some distros default is now sha512 so no need anymore. It seems if you simply edit /etc/default/passwd to blowfish and reset your password, sha512 is used e.g. encrypted password beginning with $6 in /etc/shadow not $2 (blowfish) and logins work fine. I guess the /etc/default/passwd config file may be futurised or the config written before changing to SHA which was easier to implement and the wiki is out of date with the code?? -- Kc

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] News item: /lib removal - Was: heads up: /lib removal
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 12/07/12 10:55, Allan McRae wrote: > For comments: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:usrlib I took the liberty to edit that page to change the command to confirm if the update worked, from > ls -l / to > ls -ld /lib That way, only /lib directory will be shown, avoiding listing all the other directories in root. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? For more information, please read: http://idallen.com/topposting.html ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto Linux user #524555 -------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] BTRFS + Rollback + Subvolumes
by 1126 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Hello List! After a few years (like two?) of wandering around, I'm finally back using ArchLinux and wonder why I ever went on searching for something better in the first place. Feels good to be home.. Well, I installed ArchLinux a while back on my Laptop and switched yesterday to using btrfs as my fs for everything except boot, because of everything else being encrypted. Okay, I followed the wiki-article "Installing btrfs on root" (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_on_Btrfs_root) and everything went just fine (it does sometimes). So I now have a subvolume __active which represents /, one for home, one for usr and one for var. I then wanted to test the rollback-feature presented to me during boot and created a snapshot of the subvolume __active. I tried using this during, but it obviously fails, because of not having anything in /usr and /var and /home. So, my question (yes, finally) is: Am I missing something or is just not possible to use different subvolumes (like __active, home, usr, var) and being able to rollback your system during boot? As far as I know btrfs-snapshots are not recursive. So wouldn't it be better (being-able-to-rollback-wise) to just have one subvolume so that you can really rollback everything in case something went wrong? Or is there a way to combine the benefits of having different subvolumes and still being able to rollback the system? I hope I am making any sense.. It's still before the first cup of coffee, alas. Thank you in advance, Christian.

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[arch-general] systemd fails to set console font
by pants 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

Hello, systemd is not setting my console font. The following is the only relevant config I could think of: /etc/vconsole.conf : > KEYMAP=dvorak > FONT=ohsnap6x11r Using the command > setfont ohsnap6x11r works perfectly to change the font to that desired. Cheers, pants.

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[arch-general] [pressh@gmail.com: [arch-dev-public] [newsitem] grub/grub2]
by Arvid Warnecke 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

Hello, as I am not allowed to ask on the arch-dev-public list, I have to ask that here: ----- Forwarded message from Ronald van Haren <pressh(a)gmail.com> ----- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:54:37 +0200 From: Ronald van Haren <pressh(a)gmail.com> To: Public mailing list for Arch Linux development <arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org> Subject: [arch-dev-public] [newsitem] grub/grub2 Reply-To: Public mailing list for Arch Linux development <arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org> Hi, I drafted a newsitem for when I'll kill GRUB legacy and move GRUB v2 to [core] in one of following days. Any comments/improvements are welcome! Ronald ##################################### GRUB legacy no longer supported GRUB 2.x has moved to [core]. With this move support for GRUB legacy (i.e. version 0.9x) is dropped, which is now moved to AUR. Although GRUB legacy will not be removed from your system and will stay fully functional, you should consider upgrading to GRUB version 2.x, or one of the other supported bootloaders. Please consult <a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub">the wiki</a> for detailed installation instructions for GRUB version 2.x. ##################################### ----- End forwarded message ----- What I do not understand is how much GRUB legacy is not supported anymore? It won't get removed from the system, but will I have to do any manual steps when updating the kernel or something like that? At the moment I don't see any reason for trying to install GRUB2 again, because last time it failed hard on my MacBook Pro. Cheers, Arvid -- [ Arvid Warnecke ][ arvid (at) nostalgix (dot) org ] [ IRC/OPN: "madhatter" ][ http://www.nostalgix.org ] ---[ ThreePiO was right: Let the Wookiee win. ]---

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[arch-general] glibc 2.16 -- just what is supposed to be in /lib now ??
by David C. Rankin 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

Guys, I have read the recent thread about glibc problems and I am totally confused about what I am still supposed to have in /lib... Currently something is broken with glibc because after update, the tdebase package (kdebase for trinity) fails to build from source with the following: Scanning dependencies of target libkmanpart-module [ 49%] Building CXX object kioslave/man/CMakeFiles/libkmanpart-module.dir/kmanpart.cpp.o Linking CXX shared module libkmanpart.so [ 49%] Built target libkmanpart-module [ 49%] Generating nfs_prot_xdr.c cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) rpcgen: C preprocessor failed with exit code 1 make[2]: *** [kioslave/nfs/nfs_prot_xdr.c] Error 1 make[1]: *** [kioslave/nfs/CMakeFiles/kio_nfs-module.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 This isn't a hardcoded path problem in TDE, it has something to do with the system not being able to find cpp in the archroot. I have confirmed this build failure on both Arch i686 and x86_64. The files present in my archroot /lib are: 15:08 providence:~/bld47/root/lib> l total 3268 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 9 13:44 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 Jun 29 22:35 .. drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jun 24 12:31 modules -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 150998 Jul 2 10:27 ld-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 2 10:27 ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14012 Jul 2 10:27 libanl-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jul 2 10:27 libanl.so.1 -> libanl-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5544 Jul 2 10:27 libBrokenLocale-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jul 2 10:27 libBrokenLocale.so.1 -> libBrokenLocale-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1967415 Jul 2 10:27 libc-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 185924 Jul 2 10:27 libcidn-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jul 2 10:27 libcidn.so.1 -> libcidn-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 34324 Jul 2 10:27 libcrypt-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jul 2 10:27 libcrypt.so.1 -> libcrypt-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 2 10:27 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13836 Jul 2 10:27 libdl-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jul 2 10:27 libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 255492 Jul 2 10:27 libm-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17948 Jul 2 10:27 libmemusage.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 2 10:27 libm.so.6 -> libm-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 87920 Jul 2 10:27 libnsl-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jul 2 10:27 libnsl.so.1 -> libnsl-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30544 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_compat-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_compat.so.2 -> libnss_compat-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26180 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_db-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_db.so.2 -> libnss_db-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22076 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_dns-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_dns.so.2 -> libnss_dns-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47032 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_files-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_files.so.2 -> libnss_files-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17996 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_hesiod-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_hesiod.so.2 -> libnss_hesiod-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42652 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_nis-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 50804 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_nisplus-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_nisplus.so.2 -> libnss_nisplus-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jul 2 10:27 libnss_nis.so.2 -> libnss_nis-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5548 Jul 2 10:27 libpcprofile.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 130395 Jul 2 10:27 libpthread-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jul 2 10:27 libpthread.so.0 -> libpthread-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 83772 Jul 2 10:27 libresolv-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jul 2 10:27 libresolv.so.2 -> libresolv-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30684 Jul 2 10:27 librt-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jul 2 10:27 librt.so.1 -> librt-2.16.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13800 Jul 2 10:27 libSegFault.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 36005 Jul 2 10:27 libthread_db-1.0.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Jul 2 10:27 libthread_db.so.1 -> libthread_db-1.0.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9796 Jul 2 10:27 libutil-2.16.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jul 2 10:27 libutil.so.1 -> libutil-2.16.so cpp is in /usr/bin: 15:10 providence:~/bld47/root/usr/bin> l cpp -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 519596 Jul 2 08:06 cpp But, for some strange reason, the build can't find it. Has anyone else encountered similar build issues with the new glibc? Nothing in the TDE code has changed concerning the call to rpcgen or cpp. I'm left scratching my head. Is it safe for me to downgrade glibc to test? With all the "it broke my system" threads, I'm somewhat reluctant to try. What say the experts? What should I check first? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd
by Karol Babioch 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Hi, I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of things. Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already mentioned in the wiki [2]. Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session. I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already. The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and more other packages. Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;). Best regards, Karol Babioch [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit

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[arch-general] Why Multiple Forums for different issues? Arch Linux/ARM?
by David C. Rankin 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

On 07/09/2012 10:52 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:> Check the ArchLinux ARM forum: > > http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3036&p=18467 Why do we have different forum systems with different login requirements for different Arch issues? Seem like KISS would dictate - 1 system and 1 login for all forum issues... Is there some logic that tells us which issues should go to the regular forum and which go to the ARM forum? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp
by Arno Gaboury 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. My*mpd.conf *shall have some incorrect settings, as *mpd.log *returns this error: > Jul 10 13:04 : avahi: Service 'Music Player' successfully established. > No protocol specified > xcb_connection_has_error() returned true > No protocol specified I have been reading articles for hours now, but can't find any clear answer. When I start ncmpcpp, I see my audio files, but when playing, there is no sound. Pulseaudio is well configured, as Clemetine is working perfectly. Here is the part from my *mpd.conf*: > user "mpd" > audio_output { > type "pulse" > name "pulse audio" > mixer_type "software" > # server "127.0.0.1" # optional > ## sink "remote_server_sink" # optional > } Part of */etc/group*: > audio:x:92:mpd > users:x:100:mpd > avahi:x:84: > mpd:x:45: I have no idea why this doesn't work. ssh is on my box, could it be the cause ? TY for your help.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] heads up: /lib removal
by Geert Hendrickx 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 13:25:29 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote: > Hey all, > > Allan pushed glib 2.16-2 into [testing] which removes /lib as a > directory, replacing it with a symlink. A bit of advice... > > - In the simplest case, the upgrade can be done as simply as: > > pacman -Syu --ignore glibc && pacman -S glibc > > - Since nothing is ever simple, if the above still fails on installation > of glibc (with a somewhat cryptic "/lib exists" error), you'll need to > figure out what's still in /lib that doesn't belong to glibc. > Generally this will end up being modules/. pacman -Qo /lib/* will > pinpoint what needs fixing/removing. Deal with anything that isn't > owned explicitly by glibc and complete the installation. > > It shouldn't need to be said, but I'll mention it anyways: > > Do. Not. Use. (the) --force. Obi-wan approves of this. Also, install busybox so you have statically linked tools to fix your system if it breaks (specifically "rmdir" and "ln"). Geert -- geert.hendrickx.be :: geert(a)hendrickx.be :: PGP: 0xC4BB9E9F This e-mail was composed using 100% recycled spam messages!

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[arch-general] util-linux pacman error, file conflicts (safe to force?)
by David C. Rankin 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Tom, All, I ran into the following error regarding util-linux upgrade. I've looked in the forum and the website, but nothing specific to it. The error is: (72/72) checking for file conflicts [###########################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) util-linux: /bin/login exists in filesystem util-linux: /etc/pam.d/chfn exists in filesystem util-linux: /etc/pam.d/chsh exists in filesystem util-linux: /etc/pam.d/login exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/bin/chfn exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/bin/chsh exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/bin/newgrp exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/sbin/vigr exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/sbin/vipw exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man1/chfn.1.gz exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man1/chsh.1.gz exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man1/login.1.gz exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man1/newgrp.1.gz exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man8/vigr.8.gz exists in filesystem util-linux: /usr/share/man/man8/vipw.8.gz exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. Is this safe to force? I ask because I don't want to kill login by forcing if there is a preferred way to do this.... What say the experts? (this has happened on all my boxes..) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] segfaults and call trace
by P .NIKOLIC 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Hi I am all of a sudden getting lots of these Call Trace reports in the log and just prior to that was having Jul 9 10:12:03 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9092.341622] claws-mail[2310] general protection ip:7feef8e5b2f1 sp:7fff657bdcd0 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7feef8e50000+12000] Jul 9 10:12:36 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9124.906472] claws-mail[2311] general protection ip:7f13fffcc2f1 sp:7fff0657e680 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f13fffc1000+12000] Jul 9 10:12:56 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9145.464138] claws-mail[2317] general protection ip:7f5f6c7822f1 sp:7fff53f85e50 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5f6c777000+12000] Jul 9 10:13:20 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9169.400598] claws-mail[2336] general protection ip:7fb1812c42f1 sp:7fff16b3dfd0 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7fb1812b9000+12000] Jul 9 10:14:50 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9258.673119] claws-mail[2349] general protection ip:7f59677942f1 sp:7fff31426d00 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f5967789000+12000] Jul 9 10:19:00 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9509.316731] firefox[2361] general protection ip:7f3e2c9bd2f1 sp:7fffcc480770 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3e2c9b2000+12000] Jul 9 10:19:32 7-of-9 kernel: [ 9540.938608] chromium[2366] general protection ip:7f3cd5eb72f1 sp:7fff66dffdb0 error:0 in libhogweed.so.2.1[7f3cd5eac000+12000] Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568236] Pid: 1347, comm: nepomukindexer Not tainted 3.4.4-2-ARCH #1 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568239] Call Trace: Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568246] [<ffffffff8112f486>] print_bad_pte+0x1e6/0x270 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568250] [<ffffffff8113162d>] unmap_single_vma+0x4fd/0x820 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568254] [<ffffffff8110c40a>] ? unlock_page+0x2a/0x40 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568257] [<ffffffff811321ae>] unmap_vmas+0x5e/0xb0 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568260] [<ffffffff8113a07f>] exit_mmap+0x9f/0x150 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568264] [<ffffffff8104e909>] mmput+0x59/0x130 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568267] [<ffffffff810558c8>] exit_mm+0x108/0x130 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568269] [<ffffffff81055a4f>] do_exit+0x15f/0x940 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568272] [<ffffffff81138863>] ? do_munmap+0x1e3/0x3d0 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568275] [<ffffffff8105657f>] do_group_exit+0x3f/0xa0 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568277] [<ffffffff810565f7>] sys_exit_group+0x17/0x20 Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568281] [<ffffffff8146a8e9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Jul 9 13:22:04 7-of-9 kernel: [ 376.568283] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint Are these related and if so what has brought them about The only thing i can find on libhogweed is to do with a gnome chat client that i do not have either installed . system as listed in sig block Thanks pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.4-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 24 18:59:47 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux . KDE 4.8.4

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Re: [arch-general] util-linux pacman error, file conflicts (safe to force?)
by Mateusz Loskot 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

On 9 July 2012 17:17, Daniel Wallace <daniel.wallace(a)gatech.edu> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 05:13:47PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> On 9 July 2012 17:11, Daniel Wallace <daniel.wallace(a)gatech.edu> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 04:52:08PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> >> On 9 July 2012 16:49, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Tom, All, >> >> > >> >> > I ran into the following error regarding util-linux upgrade. I've looked >> >> > in the forum and the website, but nothing specific to it. The error is: >> >> > >> >> > (72/72) checking for file conflicts >> >> > [###########################################] 100% >> >> > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) >> >> > util-linux: /bin/login exists in filesystem >> >> >> >> > [...] >> >> >> >> Check the ArchLinux ARM forum: >> >> >> >> http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3036&p=18467 >> >> >> >> where filesystem upgrade is suggested: >> >> >> >> pacman -Syuf >> >> >> >> But, I'd wait until someone confirms it is the right way to go. >> > >> > never -Syuf >> > never -Suf >> > never force an upgrade >> >> In this particular case, what about: >> >> pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem && pacman -S filesystem --force >> >> what is advised on the ArchLinux ARM forum too. >> >> (Disclaimer: I'm newbie here.) > > > that is different. you aren't forcing the update. Understood. > I have not used archlinuxarm. I have not used it either. > You could always go ask in #archlinux-arm on freenode No, because I'm asking about ArchLinux and its pacman. I'm not interested in ArchLinux ARM. Best regards. -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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[arch-general] Stateless Arch
by Damjan 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Has anyone done any research on stateless ArchLinux instances. A stateless Arch would be one where the root filesystem is mounted read-only and nothing changes there. Thus it can mounted over network (using NFS, NBD and similar) by several, diskless, PCs at the same time. I plan to have per user HOME directories on a server (again NFS or similar), and users credentials in LDAP. /var/run beeing a link to a tmpfs /run, and by using systemd-journal without /var/log/journal (it will store logs in memory) a lot of things avoid hitting the disk already. I'd use connman for handling the net connection and it seems to require a writable /var/lib/connman/ Anyone with any experience with this? -- дамјан

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal
by Ike Devolder 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Op dinsdag 3 juli 2012 11:41:08 schreef Dave Reisner: > Hey all, > > *** If you use a custom kernel, this will affect you. Please read the > big scary note at the end *** > > I'm taking today to work on the last roadblock before Allan can move > glibc out of /lib. This basically consists of a rebuild of: > > - kmod (to drop our local patch) > - linux, linux-lts (diff for linux here: http://paste.xinu.at/LLd/) > - all OOT kernel modules (for /usr/lib/modules/extramodules-*) > - bash-completion (temp patch until /lib is a symlink: > http://paste.xinu.at/xEs/) > > I'll be doing this all locally to avoid building against allan's new > toolchain in [staging]. This will hopefully all hit [testing] by the > end of the day. You know where to find me if you have any questions or > angry rants. > > If you'd like to do some early testing, I'm leaving the rebuilt kmod and > kernel packages on gerolde: > > http://dev.archlinux.org/~dreisner/linux-usrmove/ > > (i686 packages are lagging behind at the moment) > > BIG SCARY NOTE: Due to the kmod changes, this will BREAK all module > tools for users with their own kernels. If you do not rebuild your > kernel after pulling in the new kmod, you're going to have a bad time. > See the paste link above for inspiration. > > Cheers! > Dave I'm replying on this in arch-general and aur-general because i cant post in arch-dev. So if i understand correctly we (the people running custom kernels) can't prepare for this ? There is no way of moving the modules already to /usr/lib ? I assume kmod now only looks in /lib. Another note, people with custom repositories should move their kernels in sync with the official repositories ? --Ike

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[arch-general] How to make wicd work under systemd?
by Xin Zhao 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

I changed to systemd recently but wicd does not start when system boots as before. I add /etc/systemd/wicd.service typed as [Unit] Description=Wicd Network Manager Requires=syslog.target After=syslog.target Conflicts=NetworkManager.service [Service] Type=dbus BusName=org.wicd.daemon ExecStart=/usr/sbin/wicd ExecStop=/usr/sbin/wicd -k [Install] WantedBy=network.target Any solutions? Thanks Xin

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[arch-general] Free photo scan software with batch process?
by Arvid Warnecke 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Hi, this is not too much Arch related, but maybe there are some analogue photographers on the list who can give me some hints? I am looking for a software for my Epson V700 Photo scanner which is able to scan in batch mode. I installed iscan last night, which is the official Epson software for Linux, but it seems to be a bad version of the software for Mac or Windows. There is no batch mode at all and when I tried to select one photo from the scanner the selection always moved away and I wasn't able to move it back to the picture... :( I know there is VueScan for Linux, but I already tried it for Mac and I didn't like it at all. The UI lacks any comfort and the results where pretty bad. I know there are lots of people who use VueScan and are very happy about it, but it seems that you have to spent much more time with the tool than I am willing to. I don't take too many analogue photos at the moment, I work full-time and I have two kids. There is no use for a software where I have to spent a few weekends until I found the correct workflow. ;) TIA, Arvid -- [ Arvid Warnecke ][ arvid (at) nostalgix (dot) org ] [ IRC/OPN: "madhatter" ][ http://www.nostalgix.org ] ---[ ThreePiO was right: Let the Wookiee win. ]---

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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal
by Genes MailLists 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

On 07/09/12 07:48, Dave Reisner wrote: > You need to regenerate your locales with 'locale-gen'. > Thank you both - that fixed it (I needed to uncomment en_US_xxx in /etc/locale-gen first. thanks again gene

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[arch-general] Glibc 2.16.0-2 in testing killed my system.
by fredbezies 08 Jul '12

08 Jul '12

Hello. I upgraded a few minutes ago my archlinux + testing installation. As I cannot install glibc (because of some AUR software which had links or binary in /lib), I made the mistake of forcing installation. My system is dead. I will try repairing using archboot on an USB key. Maybe this version needs to be retired. Well I'm kinda annoyed by this bug :( -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Alternative to Shutter application
by Mateusz Loskot 08 Jul '12

08 Jul '12

Hi, Does anyone know a screenshot taking and snipping application, similar to the Shutter (http://shutter-project.org/) but 'more suckless'. It is a tool that - takes a screenshot - allows to select area and crop - is implemented in C - without enormous list of dependencies - is simpler, without too many edit or sharing features. IOW, something similar to the Snipping Tool known from Windows Vitsa/7+. Do you know anything like that? Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] heads up: /lib removal
by Myra Nelson 08 Jul '12

08 Jul '12

> So... this upgrade has been more fun than expected. At the moment > there appears to a "limitation" in pacman so I would recommend updating > like: > > Step 0) open a root shell - this can be used to recover if anything goes > wrong > > Step 1) run: > pacman -Qo /lib/* > Deal with (either via updating from the repo or rebuilding) anything not > owned by glibc > > Step 2) run: > find /var/lib/pacman/local -name files | xargs grep "^lib/$" > This should only return glibc. If not, rebuild those packages not to > own the /lib directory > > Step 3) pacman -Syu > > > If something goes wrong (you will see a message like "call to execv > failed"), use your root shell to do: > /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so /bin/rm -r /lib > /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so /bin/ln -s usr/lib /lib > > > > Note that all this should have been unnecessary and the instructions > given by falconindy should have been enough. But there appears to be a > genuine pacman bug in conflict checking where it ignores other packages > owning a directory when it checks if it can be removed. Hopefully this > can be fixed soon... There may be something else going on with here > too, but we are unsure as of yet. > > Note that pacman will detect when there are files in /lib that do not > belong to glibc before upgrade, just not if some other package owns /lib > only (with no files). So all the cases I tested (folder and files in > /lib, both owned and unowned by packages) do not result in the error. > > Allan > > >From the pacman -Qo /lib/* command I discovered a module directory with some left over kernels modules. I checked /usr/lib/modules and had the modules for my current kernels so I did the stupid thing and sudo rm -Rvf /lib/modules. Don't jump yet, because Allan's procedure worked perfectly after that. Actually for such a massive upgrade I think things went well. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] heads up: /lib removal
by Damjan 07 Jul '12

07 Jul '12

> Allan pushed glib 2.16-2 into [testing] which removes /lib as a > directory, replacing it with a symlink. A bit of advice... > > - In the simplest case, the upgrade can be done as simply as: > > pacman -Syu --ignore glibc && pacman -S glibc > > - Since nothing is ever simple, if the above still fails on installation > of glibc (with a somewhat cryptic "/lib exists" error), I have an older Arch-testing system in a virtual machine, which I don't think I can upgrade very easily, since it requires a newer glibc (has 2.13-5 now) to upgrade a lot of the packages that have files in /lib Also it asks me about a pacman update that also can't be done because of a glibc dependency. I wonder if it be possible to upgrade Arch installed from the 2011.08.19 release? -- дамјан

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[arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?
by mike cloaked 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

There has been a fair amount of disruption to systems over a widespread geographic area due to the mutex leap second bug from midnight Saturday, and from what I read this was triggered by ntpd calling specific routines from the kernel - does anyone know if the same bug has also hit systems using chrony if that was in use instead of ntp? I guess that the kernel patches being written by John Stulz at https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/1/203 will filter through to a kernel update at some point? -- mike c

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[arch-general] MPD volume problems after update -> mpd 0.17-1
by Sébastien le Preste de Vauban 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

if I attempt to change the volume of the current song being played by mpd (tested with ncmpcpp and sonata), the volume gets muted, no sound can be heard. This did not happen with older version of mpd 0.16.x. I haven't touched my mpd.conf and mpd.log does not show anything suspicious. <http://shining-global.en.alibaba.com/>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] x264 and ffmpeg rebuild
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

On 07/06/2012 03:31 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: > bump, > > i really want to move this list as soon as possible to testing. > what's the status of amarok and miro? > what about the other packages that weren't compatible? did you guys > switched to ffmpeg-compat? > > I say we kick miro and apparently amarok already compiles cleanly against ffmpeg 0.11.

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[arch-general] Glibc 2.16 bad effect on some software ?
by fredbezies 06 Jul '12

06 Jul '12

Hello. I'm used to build every days or every two days mozilla firefox from its trunk source code. Today, after glibc 2.16 upgrade on testing, after a successful build process, I got an error message while trying to package mozilla firefox : /bin/sh : line 1 : 22172 Segmentation fault /home/fred/logs/fox/objdir-fx/dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh /home/fred/logs/fox/objdir-fx/browser/installer/../../dist/bin/shlibsign -v -i ../../dist/firefox/libsoftokn3.so make[3]: * [stage-package] Error 139 make[2]: * [make-package] Error 2 make[1]: * [default] Error 2 make: * [package] Error 2 Yesterday, with glibc 2.15, all worked well. Any idea ? -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] /etc/os-release: Suggestions for improvements
by Karol Babioch 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hi, I've just recently learned about the relatively new file "/etc/os-release" and have to say that I quite like it. The previous situation was a mess at best, so this is a great way for unifying. systemd is really great in that regard. To my great astonishment it was already included into Arch about a month ago, see [1]. After looking at the file I have questions about some parameters. I know this might seem to be very petty-minded, but somehow its important to me. Maybe I'm just too perfectionistic about this. First of all I'm wondering why HOME_URL is set to the plain HTTP version of archlinux.org, whereas the other two links are set to the secure HTTPS version. This doesn't seem to be consequent. The example shows that Fedora is using the HTTPS version for both the HOME_URL as well as the BUG_REPORT_URL. After reading the appropriate man page (see [2]), I think the parameter SUPPORT_URL is not appropriate. It is set to "https://bbs.archlinux.org/". Personally I have some sort of a problem with the fact that only the forums get mentioned as a source for support. Personally I don't use the forums very often, but do make use of the mailing lists and the *really* great wiki much more heavily. Furthermore there are the various IRC channels, which probably are used by some of you. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be some sort of a landing page, summarizing all the different ways you can ask/look for help, e.g. something like "https://www.archlinux.org/support/". Probably this would be the best solution. It looks like Fedora isn't mentioning a support URL at all, so maybe this would also be an option for us also? Furthermore I'm wondering whether we should look into the Common Platform Enumeration (CPE) specification (see [3]) in order to apply for an entry. From what I can tell it doesn't cost anything, but you have to contact the NVD CPE team, see [4]. Obviously this should be done by someone officially connected to Arch Linux. I don't want to leave behind any wrong impressions. I really appreciate how fast Arch Linux is following along with the proposals from upstream, but I do think we could be more consequent in this case. I couldn't find any sort of discussions about this, so before submitting any "patches" and/or reporting "bugs", I would like to ask you what you think about all of this? Best regards, Karol Babioch [1] https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk/os-releas… [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html [3] http://cpe.mitre.org/specification/ [4] http://nvd.nist.gov/cpe.cfm

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[arch-general] Huge log file for SLiM
by Sébastien Leblanc 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Dearest Arch Linux Mailing List, So I was installing a few packages on a fairly recent Arch install, when I got an error message from pacman: --------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<-------- : Retrieving packages from community... error: failed retrieving file '<package>' from <mirror1> : Failed writing body (1435 != 1448) error: failed retrieving file '<package>' from <mirror2> : Failed writing body (104 != 4344) error: failed retrieving file '<package>' from <mirror3> : Failed writing body (6 != 2896) warning: failed to retrieve some files from community error: failed to commit transaction (download library error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. --------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<-------- I immediately thought of a full hard drive. `df` reported that my / partition was full. My root FS partition is around 33G in size: that's not huge, but since it is a fairly recent install, I thought there was no way it could be normally that full. I ran `du -sh` on things in my / drive, and it reported that /var/log was using up 27G of space. The culprit was SLiM's log: it was making up 99.99394 of all the space occupied by logs on my system. For some reason, log rotation does not occur with SLiM on my system. All other applications with logs work fine. Is anyone having this issue? I could not test it on other systems as it is the only one I have running SLiM. -- Sébastien Leblanc

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[arch-general] Can't suspend or hibernate
by Brock York 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hey I haven't been able to suspend my desktop for about 6 months now. I'm not sure what has caused it. I haven't had any hardware changes and even a reload hasn't fixed the problem. I've tried reading the wiki on suspending and run some tests using pm-suspend. It suspends processes fine according to the guide I was following, but it seems to get stuck at suspending hardware. I tried disabling as many modules as possible to then get it to suspend but still no luck. Is anyone else having this problem or has anyone fixed this problem? Regards Brock

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[arch-general] Installing to RAID .. cannot reboot
by D. R. Evans 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

I have carefully followed the RAID instructions at: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_RAID_and_LVM#RAID_installation I have not used LVM, just RAID. I have double-checked what I actually did, and believe that I did exactly what the page tells me to do. I have two identical drives, which I configured as RAID1. At the conclusion of the installation, the instructions say: ---- Once it is complete you can safely reboot your machine: # reboot ---- When I try to reboot, I receive the error message: ERROR: device /dev/md0 not found ERROR: unable to find root device /dev/md0 What do I have to do to get past this error? Doc PS I tried to go back to the very beginning and walk through the instructions again, but when I do that, when I reach this step: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd[cd]3 I am now informed that /dev/sdc3 is busy or unavailable. -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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[arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues
by Zero, Chien-An Cho 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hello, First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the ArchLinux webpages (ex. Downloads, Mirror Status) is really offending Taiwanese people. I would like to bring up this issue, and preferably to resolve this issue. I have posted this message on the forum: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144315 . The moderator suggested me to post on arch-general, so here it is. :) There is also a bug tracking issue submitted by other Taiwanese user that I'm requesting for reopen here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30444 The following text is the same as the post on forum, except a few modification to make text smoother. The recent changes on the download page named Taiwan as Taiwan, Province of China, which is not reflecting the truth that Taiwan is a independent country which having its own government. I think this might be caused by following the ISO-3166 country name list standard. However, I don't think ISO-3166 is a good list when it comes to the country name. Many open source communities have encountered this problem before. Most of them understand that ISO-3166 is not really a neutral list that we all hope for, and thus made switch to a separate maintained country list. For example, FreeBSD[1], Rails[2], Debian[3]. Many big commercial entities also opt not to use "Taiwan, PRC" in their country list, like: Apple[4], IBM[5], also try Google, Facebook, Twitter, et cetra. A possible solution might be using the country name list from ICU[6]. I believed the ArchLinux is trying to expand its user-base around the world, so a neutral country name list would be the best for the benefit of all of us, ArchLinux developers and users. As a Taiwanese ArchLinux user, I'm really happy to see that user base of ArchLinux is growing in Taiwan. Some educational institutions provide mirrors site in Taiwan, Wiki localized in Traditional Chinese in the recent years. I sincerely hope this issue can be resolved as soon as possible. Let's keep the issue simple and not flaming it, thanks. References: [1] FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138672 [2] Rails: http://www.koziarski.net/archives/2008/9/24/countries-and-controversies/ [3] Debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/04/msg00798.html [4] Apple: http://www.apple.com/choose-your-country/ [5] IBM: http://www.ibm.com/planetwide/select/selector.html [6] ICU: http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk/source/data/region/en.txt Best Regards, Chien-An "Zero" Cho

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] final leg of /lib removal
by Oon-Ee Ng 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Dave Reisner <d(a)falconindy.com> wrote: <snip> > - linux, linux-lts (diff for linux here: http://paste.xinu.at/LLd/) <snip> I'm basing my modifications to my PKGBUILDs on this, simple enough, but a simple observation - ${pkgdir} is used throughout the PKGBUILD except in the diff =) ditto for ${_kernver}

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[arch-general] initscripts 20120631 and BTRFS
by Arno Gaboury 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Dear list, I refer to this bug report: > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30517 I have exactly the same situation at boot, and this didn't happend before. Form my kernel.log: > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373550] INFO: task > btrfs-transacti:353 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373554] "echo 0 > > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373557] btrfs-transacti D > ffff880402ae3b58 0 353 2 0x00000000 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373562] ffff880402bc3c80 > 0000000000000046 ffff880402ae3790 ffff880402bc3fd8 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373568] ffff880402bc3fd8 > ffff880402bc3fd8 ffff880408daa7b0 ffff880402ae3790 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373580] ffff88041f493740 > 0000000000013740 ffff880400000000 ffff880402bc3bc8 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373583] Call Trace: > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373590] [<ffffffff81013580>] > ? __switch_to+0x120/0x410 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373595] [<ffffffff81468b29>] > schedule+0x29/0x70 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373598] [<ffffffff81468df7>] > schedule_preempt_disabled+0x27/0x40 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373600] [<ffffffff814674a8>] > __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x148/0x340 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373603] [<ffffffff814676b6>] > mutex_lock+0x16/0x30 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373625] [<ffffffffa013d2bb>] > btrfs_run_ordered_operations+0x3b/0x210 [btrfs] > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373636] [<ffffffffa011d3a4>] > btrfs_commit_transaction+0x74/0xaa0 [btrfs] > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373646] [<ffffffffa011ca4c>] > ? join_transaction.isra.22+0x2dc/0x310 [btrfs] > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373650] [<ffffffff81073b60>] > ? abort_exclusive_wait+0xb0/0xb0 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373660] [<ffffffffa0115e25>] > transaction_kthread+0x235/0x2b0 [btrfs] > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373669] [<ffffffffa0115bf0>] > ? btrfs_alloc_root+0x50/0x50 [btrfs] > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373671] [<ffffffff810731d3>] > kthread+0x93/0xa0 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373674] [<ffffffff8146bbe4>] > kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373677] [<ffffffff81073140>] > ? kthread_freezable_should_stop+0x70/0x70 > Jul 3 16:27:01 localhost kernel: [ 240.373680] [<ffffffff8146bbe0>] > ? gs_change+0x13/0x13 Is it really a bug, or did I miss something or did something wrong? TY for any advise.

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[arch-general] Error when upgrading "reflector"
by Benjamin Boudreau 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Just got when doing a pacman -Syu: reflector-2012.7.1-1-any 10.8 KiB 672K/s 00:00 [#############################] 1 ... (14/14) checking for file conflicts [#############################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) reflector: /usr/lib/python3.2/site-packages/__pycache__/Reflector.cpython-32.pyc exists in filesystem Should I force the update? --Benjamin Boudreau

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Re: [arch-general] compact view removed from Nautilus
by Kevin Chadwick 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:26:57 +0200 Olav Vitters wrote: > You have command line tools for gconf as well as dconf: > gconftool-2 > gsettings That's two interfaces that depend on installed binaries and you haven't listed them all yet, not only is the syntax rediculously long compared to for example a sed command but it certainly isn't a truly universal interface that would work from say even a minimal boot cd or even a hexeditor or by hand. Apparently they are meant to make it easier for administrators, yet they cost us time. I guess more user testing as well as dev testing is required.

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[arch-general] Asked for PIN during pairing of Bluetooth mouse
by Karol Babioch 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Hi, I'm pretty sure that this is an upstream issue, but to narrow things down and to verify and/or falsify my experience, I'm asking here first. Basically it is about my Bluetooth mouse (Speedlink Saphyr Bluetooth). I paired it some time ago (half a year or something like that) and it worked fine until now, even with the latest packages. However for some other reason I had to delete the pairing and repeat the process of pairing. Surprisingly I've realized that this isn't possible anymore using GNOME Bluetooth. During the process of pairing (after the mouse is discovered and I want to proceed), I'm asked whether the PIN displayed within GNOME Bluetooth matches the one on the device. Obviously the mouse itself by no means can actually display anything, so this seems odd and wasn't the case back when I paired it initially. Regardless of whether I decide to click on the button that says that they match or the one that says that they doesn't, the process of pairing fails. However I can connect the mouse to my computer by using hidd directly (hidd --connect xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx), although this is not a long term solution as it has to be repeated every single time it gets disconnected. I'm now wondering whether anyone of you has also experienced this? I haven't yet looked into it, so I'm not sure whether this is a problem of Gnome Bluetooth itself, or whether there gets something messed up further down in the Bluetooth stack. Maybe some of you could try to repair their Bluetooth mouse (and/or equipment). But be aware that I haven't found a way to pair it permanently once again, so probably you either want to do this in a test environment and/or save your Bluetooth settings beforehand somehow. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome
by Clemens Buchacher 03 Jul '12

03 Jul '12

Hi, I'd like to bring to your attention the discussion surrounding gnome-shell/networkmanager bug #679212 (NetworkManager VPN secrets: NetworkAgent internal error): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679212 A fix for this particular bug is under way. The cause for the bug was Arch Linux's use of different libexecdirs for gnome-shell and networkmanager plugins (/usr/lib/gnome-shell and /usr/lib/networkmanager, respectively), instead of the default /usr/libexec. This is in accordance with Arch Packaging Standards: "Avoid using /usr/libexec/ for anything. Use /usr/lib/${pkgname}/ instead." [1] What is the motivation for this rule? In response to the above bug report, a gnome-shell dev says that he "could consider this weird libexecdir setting a distribution problem." Since this seems to be an unusual setting, I suspect that there might still be many more bugs lurking around for which Arch Linux plays beta tester. Indeed, this is not the first time that I am having trouble with Arch Linux packages using custom installation directories [2]. Maybe it's not such a big deal and it's just me having some tough luck (2 events do not make a good statistic). But expectations upstream seem to contradict the Arch Linux rule, so I wanted to bring it up for discussion. Clemens [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards#Package_etiqu… [2] http://gnu-octave-repository.2306053.n4.nabble.com/geometry-1-4-0-cannot-ha…

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[arch-general] shadow upgrade 4.1.5.1-1. /pam configuration files
by Arno Gaboury 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Dear list, I messed up my box yesterday when upgrading shadow, and trying to understand and merge /etc/pam.d/login with login.pacnew. I thought it was worth adding the four lines of login.pacnew to my actual login file. But in this case, I found myself with a box login one user, me, on two Tty, asking for the password twice at the console login prompt, then when X started, all GUI apps were very long to diplay contents, and when I loged off/loged in, I could see I had two last login on Tty messages . So I reverted to my original /etc/pam.d/login. Now everything is OK, but I am wondering if this denial of taling into account the login.pacnew would leave my system unstable. TY for help and hints, as PAM and shadow are both quite obscure to me when it comes to configure. Below is my actual /ect/pam.d/login . Not sure it is well configured ! > #%PAM-1.0 > #root is NOT allowed to login > auth required pam_securetty.so > #check user is allowed to login > auth requisite pam_nologin.so > #auth include system-local-login > #default aut settings > #auth include system-auth > auth required pam_unix.so shadow nullok > auth required pam_tally.so onerr=succeed > file=/var/log/faillog > # use this to lockout accounts for 10 minutes after 3 failed attempts > #auth required pam_tally.so deny=2 unlock_time=600 > onerr=succeed file=/var/log/faillog > #account include system-local-login > # include the default account settings > #account include system-account > #check access for user > account required pam_access.so > account required pam_time.so > account required pam_unix.so > #password required pam_cracklib.so difok=2 minlen=8 dcredit=2 > ocredit=2 retry=3 > #password required pam_unix.so sha512 shadow use_authtok > #session include system-local-login > session required pam_unix.so > #set default environment for user > session required pam_env.so > session required pam_motd.so > session required pam_limits.so > session optional pam_mail.so dir=/var/spool/mail standard > session optional pam_lastlog.so > session optional pam_loginuid.so > -session optional pam_ck_connector.so nox11 > -session optional pam_systemd.so

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[arch-general] cpufreq stopped working
by Martin Zecher 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

I'm not really sure when cpufreq stopped working, maybe 2 or 3 months ago. It was working fine before and I don't really remember making any change in configuration. Running cpupower frequency-info gives me this: analyzing CPU 0: no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU boost state support: Supported: no Active: no lsmod | grep cpu gives this: acpi_cpufreq 10458 1 mperf 1235 1 acpi_cpufreq processor 26567 3 acpi_cpufreq So, acpi_cpufreq is loaded (this is the module I had to load aside with for cpufreq to work journalctl | grep cpu gives this: Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, ...06 Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: setup_percpu: NR_CPUS:64 nr_cpumask_bits:64 n...:1 Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: PERCPU: Embedded 27 pages/cpu @ffff88013fc000...88 Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: pcpu-alloc: s80640 r8192 d21760 u524288 alloc...52 Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 1 2 3 Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: cpuidle: using governor ladder Jun 30 00:45:47 cerdo kernel: cpuidle: using governor menu Jun 30 00:45:49 cerdo kernel: ACPI: Requesting acpi_cpufreq Jun 30 00:45:49 cerdo kernel: ACPI: acpi_idle registered with cpuidle Jun 30 00:45:50 cerdo kernel: Modules linked in: acpi_cpufreq(+) mperf batt...he Jun 30 00:45:50 cerdo kernel: [<ffffffffa01df081>] acpi_cpufreq_init+0x81/0...q] Jun 30 00:46:08 cerdo systemd[1]: Failed to create cgroup cpu:/: No such fi...ry cat /proc/cpuinfo gives this: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz stepping : 6 microcode : 0x60f cpu MHz : 2393.998 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips : 4789.22 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz stepping : 6 microcode : 0x60f cpu MHz : 2393.998 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 initial apicid : 1 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips : 4789.22 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: SpeedStep is enabled in BIOS. The firmware is also the latest, but I must load microcode (from intel-ucode) to get a newer firmware for my CPU. Some details of my box: x86_64, SSD linux-ck-corex 3.4.4-2, but the same happens with linux 3.4.4-2. I also tested linux-3.3.8-1 without luck nvidia-ck-corex 302.17-1 systemd, but the same happens when booting with standard initscripts I have only ArchLinux installed in my laptop since I bought it (so I cannot test in Window$ if frequency scaling is working) I found a similar report 2 months ago, apparently not solved yet: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=140259 I don't have overheating problems though. CPU runs at about 40 °C all the time. Here is another similar problem, but also without a solution: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=142237 I don't really know what else to do. I would really appreciate some help with this. Thanks for reading. -- Martin Código de novios Falabella: 585855-00 (gracias!) No envíen archivos pesados por mail. Usen DropBox <https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIwODk0MDk> (2GB + *500MB bonus*) o SpiderOak<https://spideroak.com/download/referral/dd6b3051b5f1f10a5674d694f22dd3e8>(tras registrarse vayan a 'buy more space' e ingresen el código "worldbackupday" --> *8GB*)

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[arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT
by mike cloaked 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

I have been following the discussions in various places including on this list about the forthcoming change from grub to become grub-legacy and the default bootloader becoming grub2. On all my arch systems I have grub with MBR partitioning, booting to BIOS initially - and none of my systems is modern enough to have UEFI instead of BIOS. So I have been reading up on what I will need to do when grub2 version 2.00 appears in [core] - and how to successfully achieve the changeover. However I still cannot determine if it will be "necessary" to make sure that there is a post-MBR gap of 2MiB between the MBR and the first partition when the system will remain using MBR partitioning and grub2 will be the bootloader. So this applies to systems with no GPT partitions, and no UEFI. In my systems that have been running some time some have 64 sectors to where the start of the first partition is, and others have 2,000 sectors which is about 1MiB - and I still don't know if grub2 version 2.00 will not work on those systems or not. I do know that other distros such as Fedora version F16 have systems running successfully using grub2 prior to version 2.00 with MBR partitioning and BIOS and boot perfectly well without the 2MiB post MBR gap. Perhaps this changes with the release of grub2 version 2.00? Achieving a post-MBR gap of at least 2MiB will be a painful process as shrinking the first partition and then moving it towards partition 2 with an MBR partitioned disk is time consuming and not always successful in those systems where in the past I have adjusted the partitions on a drive. Maybe the recent versions of tools such as PartedMagic will cope better than it did a couple of years ago? Can someone help out with a clear explanation please. I am usually pretty good with upgrades and preparation but this has foxed me! i.e. specifically for a BIOS-MBR hard drive using grub2 that it is vital to have a post-MBR gap of at least 2 MiB (where no GPT partitioning will be in use)? Thanks -- mike c

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[arch-general] [aur-general] GUI apps take time to load after X starts + weird behavior after upgrades
by Arno Gaboury 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Dear list, my system is no more running smooth after yesterday bunch of upgrades. The box has very classic and standard settings, and regularly upgraded. The symptoms: -when login in runlevel 3, the password prompt appears twice -after starx (XFCE4), all my previous open windows (Firefox, thunderbirds,clementine) take age ( 3-4 mn to display the contents). -Thunderbird return invalid password to mail server, please retry. I clic on retry, then it starts. I suspects there is a misconfiguration in my new */etc/pam.d/login* file, and some authentification issues. Please find below my *pacman log:* > [2012-07-01 15:29] Running 'pacman -Syu --ignoregroup texlive-most > --ignore texlive-bin' > [2012-07-01 15:29] synchronizing package lists > [2012-07-01 15:29] starting full system upgrade > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/grub.d/40_custom saved as > /etc/grub.d/40_custom.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/default/grub saved as > /etc/default/grub.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /boot/grub/grub.cfg saved as > /boot/grub/grub.cfg.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] removed grub2-common (1:2.00rc1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] removed grub2-bios (1:2.00rc1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded run-parts (4.3.1-1 -> 4.3.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ca-certificates (20120212-1 -> 20120623-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ca-certificates-java (20120524-1 -> > 20120608-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded chromium (20.0.1132.43-1 -> 20.0.1132.47-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libsystemd (185-3 -> 185-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] ==> Warning: /etc/group or /etc/gshadow are > inconsistent. > [2012-07-01 15:30] Run 'grpck' to correct this. > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded shadow (4.1.5-4 -> 4.1.5.1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/pam.d/login installed as > /etc/pam.d/login.pacnew > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded util-linux (2.21.2-1 -> 2.21.2-3) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded systemd-tools (185-3 -> 185-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded dbus-core (1.6.0-5 -> 1.6.2-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded dbus (1.6.0-1 -> 1.6.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded docbook-xsl (1.77.0-1 -> 1.77.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded gcc-libs (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ppl (0.12.1-1 -> 1.0-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded gcc (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] Copying /boot/grub/grub.cfg.pacsave to > /boot/grub/grub.cfg > [2012-07-01 15:30] Generating grub.cfg.example config file... > [2012-07-01 15:30] This may fail on some machines running a custom kernel. > [2012-07-01 15:30] done. > [2012-07-01 15:30] installed grub-common (2.00-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] installed grub-bios (2.00-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded hyphen (2.8.3-1 -> 2.8.4-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded initscripts (2012.06.2-1 -> 2012.06.3-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded kdelibs (4.8.4-3 -> 4.8.4-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded lib32-gcc-libs (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libdrm (2.4.35-1 -> 2.4.37-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libquvi-scripts (0.4.5-1 -> 0.4.6-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libusbx (1.0.12-1 -> 1.0.12-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded lynx (2.8.7-5 -> 2.8.7-6) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded pciutils (3.1.9-2 -> 3.1.10-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded pixman (0.26.0-1 -> 0.26.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded raptor (2.0.7-2 -> 2.0.8-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded virtuoso (6.1.5-1 -> 6.1.5.20120630-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded vlc (2.0.1-2 -> 2.0.2-1) > I am not sure to have merged correctly my */etc/pam.d/login* with the new login.pacnew Please find below my */etc/pam.d/login* > #%PAM-1.0 > auth required pam_securetty.so > auth requisite pam_nologin.so > auth include system-local-login > auth required pam_unix.so nullok > auth required pam_tally.so onerr=succeed file=/var/log/faillog > # use this to lockout accounts for 10 minutes after 3 failed attempts > #auth required pam_tally.so deny=2 unlock_time=600 > onerr=succeed file=/var/log/faillog > account include system-local-login > account required pam_access.so > account required pam_time.so > account required pam_unix.so > #password required pam_cracklib.so difok=2 minlen=8 dcredit=2 > ocredit=2 retry=3 > #password required pam_unix.so sha512 shadow use_authtok > session include system-local-login > session required pam_unix.so > session required pam_env.so > session required pam_motd.so > session required pam_limits.so > session optional pam_mail.so dir=/var/spool/mail standard > session optional pam_lastlog.so > session optional pam_loginuid.so > -session optional pam_ck_connector.so nox11 > -session optional pam_systemd.so Please find below my *errors.log* : > Jul 2 12:34:48 localhost login: pam_mail(login:session): pam_putenv: > delete non-existent entry; MAIL > Jul 2 12:35:23 localhost /usr/sbin/crond[538]: (CRON) INFO (Syslog > will be used instead of sendmail.): No such file or directory > Jul 2 12:35:23 localhost kernel: [ 5.780491] NOHZ: > local_softirq_pending 08 > Jul 2 12:35:23 localhost kernel: [ 5.782694] NOHZ: > local_softirq_pending 08 > Jul 2 12:35:25 localhost dhcpcd[763]: eth0: sendmsg: Cannot assign > requested address > Jul 2 12:35:54 localhost pulseaudio[1043]: [pulseaudio] > bluetooth-util.c: org.bluez.Manager.ListAdapters() failed: > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited > with unknown return code 1 > Jul 2 12:35:59 localhost pulseaudio[1103]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon > already running. Last line form *everything.log* (this line is quite new, didn't appeared before. Maybe due to my install of *libvrtd*): > Jul 2 12:36:25 localhost dnsmasq[722]: using nameserver 192.168.1.1#53 Feom */etc/rc.conf *: > DAEMONS=(ntpd syslog-ng netfs sshd crond dbus networkmanager > avahi-daemon libvirtd) Nothing special in *kernel.log*. TY for your help.

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Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues
by Zero Cho 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Devon, Thanks for your support. You're right. This is not intended to be a political debate, so I have been using a neutral word, Taiwan, rather than other more official but sensitive, less common name. It's the fact that ISO is not reflecting how most of the world see it. ISO does not have authority over the country name. ISO does not obligate to reflect how world sees things too. I'm not asking for special treatments. I'm just asking you to follow the convention created from previous experience to prevent the misunderstanding and debates. I want to point out one thing. I will be willing to bring this to the upstream project. However, if the upstream project is unwilling to make the changes and maybe suggest us to fork a new project instead. The choice of using the which plugin will fall back to the ArchLinux community. The whole debate will go through again. This is not something just my imagination. This is a real story happened in Rails(Ruby's counterparts of django) community where Rails split out country list as a separate project and people do fork to provide a better version. Dear all ArchLinux developers, please think it through again. Thanks. If possible, use Devon's suggestion. ------------------------------ *From:* "Devon Sawatzky" <s4wa7z(a)gmail.com> *To:* "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> *Sent:* July 2, 2012 1:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues As Gaetan pointed out, it is not the job of Linux distribution maintainers to decide country names. But it seems to me this whole issue is not really about deciding what to name a country as that decision has already been made by many. The fact is simply that the data being used does not accurately reflect the world as most see it today. If this is not the case and this is in fact a political debate, then I am wrong, but it appears to me this is a technical debate about whether it is the responsibility of Arch, or someone else to implement the change. I would like to suggest that this is a fairly trivial change, so whether Arch "is supposed to" change the name is irrelevant. The fact remains that, regardless of whether they are obligated to change it or not, it is an easy thing to do that would be very positive for a lot of people. A good solution it seems would be to implement a temporary workaround and apply pressure upstream for a permanent fix using the weight of Arch's influence. Devon Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Hills wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > >> I have found a solution. All mirrors in countries with disputed names > >> are just removed from the official mirrorlist. > > > > I believe servers south of the Mason-Dixon line should be listed under > > the country name "Confederate States of America". Under this new > > solution, I propose removing USA servers south of the Mason-Dixon line > > from the mirrorlist. > > > > --Andrew Hills > > A little more bikeshed. > > I propose all servers not located in the Republic of Texas be removed > from the mirrorlist. Oh yeah the rest of y'all call us a state now. > > Myra > > -- > Life's fun when your sick and psychotic! >

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Re: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues
by Yao Wei (魏銘廷) 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

I am the reporter of FS#30444, and I've filed and patched a bug of a little project with the identical problem: If you are using iso-codes from extra repo, there is a common name of “Taiwan, Province of China” which is named “Taiwan”. And by using that, “Taiwan, Province of China” and “Venezuela, Bolivarian Republic of” are changed to “Taiwan” and “Venezuela”. I don't hope these mirrors get removed by the way. One of the mirrors in Taiwan is Tier 1. -- Yao Wei

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[arch-general] Request of printing warnings at the end of pacman upgrade
by BlissSam 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Hi, Every arch user may experience such a situation--after a system upgrade, the system is totally unusable. That is neither the problem of that upgrade, nor the user. In fact, during the upgrading process some important warnings (such as `please reinstall your bootloader', or `please reload the modules yourself') are printed but missed by the user. Especially when hundreds of packages are going to be upgraded, thousands of lines of information will wash away the important warnings. Although in the wiki, arch officially said that you should check every output line during system upgrade, most people will usually do the following things to upgrade the system: turn on the computer, type pacman -Syu, hit Y, then left the computer alone and check back half an hour later. Few will watch the whole upgrading process and see each line of the output. So, I recommend that, why don't we print a single message `Some critical packages have been upgraded and some operations needed to be done by yourself, please check back the /var/log/pacman.conf file for some important information.' AT THE END of a system upgrade which has some packages upgrade marked `important'? Packages itself can specify for a single upgrade related to a specific version whether this is an `important' upgrade, in its *.install file. And it is totally NOT against KISS rule, is it? -------------------- BTW, I suggest that add a character (I, W, or E, for 'info' 'warning' 'error') into every line of output to the log file. the old style is like this: [2012-06-25 20:34] The way fontconfig is configured has been changed. and the new one may be this: [2012-06-25 20:34 (W)] The way fontconfig is configured has been changed. So the advantage is that, user can use 'cat /var/log/pacman.log | grep (W)' to see all warning messages or 'grep (E)' to see all errors without any clutter. This can be very useful in diagnosing after the system becomes unusable. If you are disagree with me, just type 'cat /var/log/pacman.log' and try to find something useful in a short time. If you cannot do that, why don't you think this is a good suggestion?

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[arch-general] [alsa][hda-intel] Not able to loopback sound between line-in (mic) and speakers / line-out (head phones).
by Javier Vasquez 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Hi, I'm using a HP EliteBook 8540w laptop. It comes with following audio card: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1521 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 54 Memory at d7520000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Udev automatically loads the following modules for this card: % lsmod | 'grep' snd snd_hda_codec_hdmi 23672 4 snd_hda_codec_idt 55508 1 snd_hda_intel 24053 7 snd_hda_codec 94273 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 6300 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 74958 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel snd_page_alloc 7217 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 18966 3 snd_pcm snd 58997 17 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel soundcore 5410 1 snd I use plain alsa to handle audio. Alsa offers for this card (alsamixer -V all) the following controls: * Master (unmuted - 42) * Headphone (unmuted - 84) * Speaker (unmuted - 84) * PCM (unmuted - 85) * Mic Jack Mode (Line In) * Beep (muted - 0) * Capture ( 80) * Digital ( 86) * Muted-LED Mode (Follow Master) * Mux ( 0) To make a loopbak between line-in (mic input but configured as line-in) and any sort of audio out (speakers, line-out/headphones) I have to do: % arecord | aplay Does anyone has this card or similar, and experience the same thing? I might be mistaken, but I understand through reading different forums, that this SW loopback using alsa utilities beyond alsamixer shouldn't be necessary. Is that right, or it's just that alsa doesn't offer such capability for this card? If someone has figured how to avoid using the "arecord | aplay" loop, please let me know. BTW, I've played around with the controls, including Mux, and there's no way I can dispense of "arecord | aplay". I haven't added additional modules, like snd-mixer-oss or snd-pcm-oss, but they don't sound relevant to me at first (might be mistaken though), :-) Thanks, -- Javier.

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[arch-general] Issues after upgrades
by Arno Gaboury 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Dear list, everything was working smooth on my box. After a bunch of upgares today, I have some issues when I *startx*: Below is my pacman log: > [2012-07-01 15:29] Running 'pacman -Syu --ignoregroup texlive-most > --ignore texlive-bin' > [2012-07-01 15:29] synchronizing package lists > [2012-07-01 15:29] starting full system upgrade > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/grub.d/40_custom saved as > /etc/grub.d/40_custom.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/default/grub saved as > /etc/default/grub.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /boot/grub/grub.cfg saved as > /boot/grub/grub.cfg.pacsave > [2012-07-01 15:30] removed grub2-common (1:2.00rc1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] removed grub2-bios (1:2.00rc1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded run-parts (4.3.1-1 -> 4.3.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ca-certificates (20120212-1 -> 20120623-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ca-certificates-java (20120524-1 -> > 20120608-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded chromium (20.0.1132.43-1 -> 20.0.1132.47-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libsystemd (185-3 -> 185-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] ==> Warning: /etc/group or /etc/gshadow are > inconsistent. > [2012-07-01 15:30] Run 'grpck' to correct this. > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded shadow (4.1.5-4 -> 4.1.5.1-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] warning: /etc/pam.d/login installed as > /etc/pam.d/login.pacnew > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded util-linux (2.21.2-1 -> 2.21.2-3) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded systemd-tools (185-3 -> 185-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded dbus-core (1.6.0-5 -> 1.6.2-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded dbus (1.6.0-1 -> 1.6.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded docbook-xsl (1.77.0-1 -> 1.77.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded gcc-libs (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded ppl (0.12.1-1 -> 1.0-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded gcc (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] Copying /boot/grub/grub.cfg.pacsave to > /boot/grub/grub.cfg > [2012-07-01 15:30] Generating grub.cfg.example config file... > [2012-07-01 15:30] This may fail on some machines running a custom kernel. > [2012-07-01 15:30] done. > [2012-07-01 15:30] installed grub-common (2.00-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] installed grub-bios (2.00-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded hyphen (2.8.3-1 -> 2.8.4-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded initscripts (2012.06.2-1 -> 2012.06.3-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded kdelibs (4.8.4-3 -> 4.8.4-4) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded lib32-gcc-libs (4.7.1-1 -> 4.7.1-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libdrm (2.4.35-1 -> 2.4.37-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libquvi-scripts (0.4.5-1 -> 0.4.6-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded libusbx (1.0.12-1 -> 1.0.12-2) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded lynx (2.8.7-5 -> 2.8.7-6) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded pciutils (3.1.9-2 -> 3.1.10-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded pixman (0.26.0-1 -> 0.26.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded raptor (2.0.7-2 -> 2.0.8-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded virtuoso (6.1.5-1 -> 6.1.5.20120630-1) > [2012-07-01 15:30] upgraded vlc (2.0.1-2 -> 2.0.2-1) > [2012-07-01 15:40] Running 'pacman -U > /home/gabx/AURbuild/android-sdk/android-sdk-r20-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' > [2012-07-01 15:40] warning: directory permissions differ on > opt/android-sdk/ > filesystem: 775 package: 755 > [2012-07-01 15:40] You need to source /etc/profile or relogin to add > the Android SDK tools to your path. > [2012-07-01 15:40] The android group has been removed, install android > packages as root. > [2012-07-01 15:40] upgraded android-sdk (r20-1 -> r20-2) > [2012-07-01 17:02] Running 'pacman -S pulseaudio-alsa' > [2012-07-01 18:25] Running 'pacman -S gpm' > [2012-07-01 19:20] Running 'pacman -S --needed python2-pyqt' > [2012-07-01 19:20] installed sip (4.13.3-2) > [2012-07-01 19:20] installed python2-sip (4.13.3-2) > [2012-07-01 19:20] installed pyqt-common (4.9.4-1) > [2012-07-01 19:20] installed python2-pyqt (4.9.4-1) Thunderbird and Firefox both take age to start ( more than a few mn), and Clementine is not synincing Library and return many errors. Kernel log: > Jul 1 19:25:23 localhost kernel: [ 22.601014] pulseaudio[1000]: > segfault at 48 ip 00007fe8340a502e sp 00007fff716cd400 error 4 in > module-equalizer-sink.so[7fe8340a0000+f000] > Jul 1 19:25:30 localhost kernel: [ 28.986395] pulseaudio[1079]: > segfault at 48 ip 00007faf57bf102e sp 00007ffffabf6f20 error 4 in > module-equalizer-sink.so[7faf57bec000+f000] > Jul 1 19:28:53 localhost kernel: [ 231.830349] clementine[905]: > segfault at 0 ip 00007fc0d18902ec sp 00007fff0bb90370 error 4 in > libQtCore.so.4.8.2[7fc0d1817000+2c1000] Everything log: > Jul 1 19:26:08 localhost dnsmasq[711]: reading /etc/resolv.conf > Jul 1 19:26:08 localhost dnsmasq[711]: using nameserver 192.168.1.1#53 > Jul 1 19:28:53 localhost kernel: [ 231.830349] clementine[905]: > segfault at 0 ip 00007fc0d18902ec sp 00007fff0bb90370 error 4 in > libQtCore.so.4.8.2[7fc0d1817000+2c1000] I have no idea where the issue comes from. TY for your help.

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[arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update
by Victor Silva 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Folks sorry for cross posting this at forum and mailing lists but so far no solution came there. Folks after the last upgrade I can no longer shutdown nor reboot my machine (I'm using it as root). The command simply hangs and nothing happens. I've done some research and found https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141155 this but that does not seems to be my issue. I'm clueless which logs can I provide you in order to diagnose what can be the problem? Important thing, I have only 1 session running and the system report going down still it never gets past the tty broadcast as it seems. Ideas? This came after a update last weekend, the content of the update is here: http://pastebin.com/54305EH0 Dmesg output is here http://pastebin.com/HjwGvDsp My last boot log is here: http://pastebin.com/Tg70mD8F My fstab (which was asked on the forums is here): http://pastebin.com/dGUuWhNe Is it somehow related? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662433 I've googled a bit and came with a solution which gives us some insights http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rebooting-magic-way Seems something is not properly unmounting. SO you can for it with: echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger Forcing a shut down, still no clear way out of it. Ideas? I was asked to perform a fsck which failed.It reported /dev/sda5 was mounted. Is there any proper way I should use to call fsck? I did create a /fsck file on / is there other more appropriate command to do it? Problably you asked for my fstab expecting an error like this right? Would it be better to run fsck from a livecd? regards, Victor

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[arch-general] Help with pm-suspend
by Randy 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Hello All, I'm seeing a strange issue when I suspend my system. If I suspend using either the command: "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend" or running "pm-suspend" as root, the system will shutdown and go into suspend mode like it should. But if I execute either of these commands again, it doesn't suspend. What I found is that after suspending the first time I can see that "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" is still active. After killing this process I am then able to suspend again. Any ideas on what's going on here? Why would the suspend process still be running after resuming from suspend? Thanks, Randy

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[arch-general] Nvidia/vesafb/GRUB2
by Arno Gaboury 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

dear list, After a few months of running Arch, I am now fine tuning everything (or at least trying). I discovered this error message in *kernel.log* file. NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Googling let me to many forum posts about this issue with Nvidia card and driver, but I couldn't find any clear answer. I have tried all the cited tricks in my *grub* file: -add *vga=0*, or *vga=795* (1208x1024), or *video=visa:off vga=normal* -*GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=console*, *GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text*, *GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep* and whatever else I couldn't remember, but nothing changed about this message. As far as I understand, Nvidia does NOT support vesa framebuffer, but only vga. Fine. My system is NOT using VGA console. Fine. But how do I need ton configure my *grub* file ? Here are the concerned line from my file : *GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT=console GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x1024* Please help as keeping running X like this is not recommanded. TY.

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[arch-general] Documentation about pambase
by Damjan 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

It's nice that Arch introduced the pambase package, so that there's some referent point of pam configuration. But currently it lacks any documentation and recommendations how those files should be used (for people that it's not so obvious). Especially something we can point to people making packages on AUR. For ex. what should lightdm use? just include /etc/pam.d/system-login or /etc/pam.d/system-local-login? -- дамјан

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[arch-general] skype - problem with audio playback when initiating call
by David C. Rankin 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

Guys, I've been through the wiki, but this weird skype error occurs when attempting to make a voip voice call. The defaults set in skype "Sound Services" were: Microphone: Default device (default) Speakers: Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 - IEC958 (hw:0,4) Ringing: Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 - IEC958 (hw:0,4) However pressing "Make a test sound" - there is NO sound. I can place a call, but there is no ringing audio, etc. If I change the config to: Microphone: Default device (default) Speakers: pulse (pulse) Ringing: pulse (pulse) Pressing "Make a test sound" -- works! But, attempting to make a call, I get an immediate "Problem with Audio Playback" and the call closes. I have set ~/.pulse/client.conf to "autospawn = no" and it make no difference. Any ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] netcfg - virtual network on a loopback interface
by Sudaraka Wijesinghe 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

Hi Everyone, I was using a virtual network within my computer to run a web server for development work. Following is the way it setup: /etc/network.d/vlan CONNECTION='ethernet' DESCRIPTION='Virtual LAN' INTERFACE='lo:1' IP='static' ADDR='192.168.123.1' GATEWAY='192.168.123.1' NETMASK='255.255.255.0' Then I have valn in the NETWORKS array in /etc/conf.d/netcfg and, net-profiles in the DAEMONS array in /etc/rc.conf Everything was working fine until the netcfg package update yesterday, and since then it fails to find/create the loopback interface. I get the followin error at boot and when I run netcfg manually. /usr/lib/network/network: line 364: /sys/class/net/lo:1/flags: No such file or directory (x6) /usr/lib/network/globals: line 104: /sys/class/net/lo:1/carrier: No such file or directory (x6) ** (x6) means I get 6 of the same message Can anyone please give me a pointer how to solve this? Thanks. -- Sudaraka Wijesinghe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- identica/twitter | im/email | text/voice @sudaraka | sudaraka.wijesinghe(a)gmail.com | +94777221779

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[arch-general] update of chroot fails - error: cannot remove file '/sys/': Read-only file system
by David C. Rankin 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

Guys, Attempting to update an arch chroot (only a couple days old), I have run into the following error: sudo mkarchroot -u $CHROOT/root :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date local is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (12): dbus-core-1.6.0-4 e2fsprogs-1.42.4-1 filesystem-2012.6-4 hwids-20120611-1 iproute2-3.4.0-2 iputils-20101006-3 kmod-9-1 libsystemd-185-2 libusbx-1.0.12-1 linux-3.4.4-2 systemd-tools-185-2 xz-5.0.4-1 Total Installed Size: 71.36 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.49 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] (12/12) checking package integrity [#######################################] 100% (12/12) loading package files [#######################################] 100% (12/12) checking for file conflicts [#######################################] 100% error: cannot remove file '/sys/': Read-only file system error: could not commit transaction error: failed to commit transaction (transaction aborted) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. How do I fix this? Is this another filesystem update issue like with filesystem-2012.6-2? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Pacman behaviour comparing numerical versions for package upgrades
by Myra Nelson 29 Jun '12

29 Jun '12

I have a question about pacman's behaviour regarding packges to be updated. According to < $: man pacman > You can also use pacman -Su to upgrade all packages that are out of date. See Sync Options below. When upgrading, pacman performs version comparison to determine which packages need upgrading. Alphanumeric: 1.0a < 1.0b < 1.0beta < 1.0p < 1.0pre < 1.0rc < 1.0 < 1.0.a < 1.0.1 Numeric: 1 < 1.0 < 1.1 < 1.1.1 < 1.2 < 2.0 < 3.0.0 That's very clear and makes sense. Here's where I'm confused. I build some of my perl pacakges with cpanpkgbuild -f XXX::XXX::YYY. The package from the official repos is: perl-datetime-format-strptime-1.5000-1-any.pkg.tar.xz the package I built is: perl-datetime-format-strptime-1.51-1-any.pkg.tar.xz I'm used to the warning package ??? local is newer than extra ???. But with the above referenced package I had to list it in the [ IgnorePkg ] line to keep pacman from trying to upgrade the package and still get this warning. "Ignoring upgrade from perl-datetime-format-strptime from 1.51-1 to 1.5000-1" No complaints as it's easy to fix, I was just wondering about the reasoning. I'll jump out on a limb here and assume it's because the repo package has 4 digits then the package version after the decimal point and my package has two digits then the package version after the decimal point. The developer changed his numbering scheme after 1.5000 to 1.51. Is this the correct behaviour for pacman? -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] wake from suspend to ram
by G. Schlisio 29 Jun '12

29 Jun '12

Hi all, on my laptop i want do disable wakeup from suspend to ram by pressing any key on my keyboard. i digged around and found it must be toggled in /proc/acpi/wakeup, still i cant find any documentation about that. my /proc/acpi/wakeup looks like this Device S-state Status Sysfs node LID0 S3 *enabled SLPB S3 *enabled HDEF S3 *disabled pci:0000:00:1b.0 PXSX S5 *disabled pci:0000:02:00.0 USB1 S3 *enabled pci:0000:00:1d.0 USB2 S3 *enabled pci:0000:00:1d.1 USB3 S3 *enabled pci:0000:00:1d.2 EHC1 S3 *enabled pci:0000:00:1d.7 but i dont now which entry is mykeyboard. i would just try to find out, but i cant fgure out a way, to toggle entries to disabled. anyone got a clue? georg

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final
by Keshav P R 28 Jun '12

28 Jun '12

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Ionut Biru <ibiru(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 06/24/2012 10:51 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Tobias Powalowski >> <tobias.powalowski(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>> HI >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2012-06/msg00071.html >>> grub2 will hit final status soon, should packages be renamed then? >>> Any plan how to handle this. >>> Imho we move grub-legacy to aur or at least extra then. >>> >>> Thanks >>> greetings >>> tpowa >>> >>> -- >>> Tobias Powalowski >>> Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) >>> http://www.archlinux.org >>> tpowa(a)archlinux.org >>> >>> >> >> I was about to post a similar message... >> >> Anyway, I was planning to drop support of grub1. There has been no >> upstream for a long time and all newer features are patched in or >> require additional patches. I don't see a need to have it in [extra] >> as grub-legacy. No problem uploading it to AUR so people can continue >> to use it if they want, although you need i686 to build it so that >> could be the only reason to keep it in [extra] for a bit... >> >> I've seen no major breakages in grub2 since beta2 iirc. Upstream >> development has been going towards stability in recent betas and I >> would consider it stable at the moment: there were no real bug reports >> in the bugtracker for the last few months. >> >> I'd like to move 2.00 to [core] via [testing] when it is released, >> letting the grub-bios (atm grub2-bios) replace the old grub package. >> Adding an install message and a news item is probably a good idea at >> the time. >> > > Do not replace grub. Most users won't read the pacman output and the > configuration syntax was changed, resulting in a non booting system. > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Generate_GRUB2_BIOS_Config_file . You can convert menu.lst/grub.conf to grub.cfg using grub-menulst2cfg. But since grub1 files will be removed from /boot/grub, that may lead to non-bootable system, unless the user installs grub2 to the MBR using grub-install. > Let them move to grub-bios. > >> I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give >> it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronald >> > > > -- > Ionuț > > >

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[arch-general] [aur-general]WIKI/pacman -Sy
by Arno Gaboury 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Dear list, I am currently fine tunning and installing lots of services on my Arch box. In that way, I often refers to Arch WIKI. On the *pacman WIKI*, there is a useful Warning: **When installing packages, do *not* refresh the package list without upgrading <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Upgrading_packages> the system (i.e. |pacman -Sy /package_name/|); this can lead to dependency issues. But on most WIKI, when installing a new package is needed, I always find this command: *$pacman -S packagenam* As by definition WIKI will often adress to newbies, my thought was to replace whenever I find the above command by this following one: *$pacman -Sy packagenam* In that way, newbies will very quickly take the good and sain habit of running the *-y *option when installing a new package on their box. Any idea if it could be worthwile for the comuunity? TY.

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[arch-general] grub/grub2 final - some questions
by mike cloaked 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Ronald van Haren <pressh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was about to post a similar message... > > Anyway, I was planning to drop support of grub1. There has been no > upstream for a long time and all newer features are patched in or > require additional patches. I don't see a need to have it in [extra] > as grub-legacy. No problem uploading it to AUR so people can continue > to use it if they want, although you need i686 to build it so that > could be the only reason to keep it in [extra] for a bit... > > I've seen no major breakages in grub2 since beta2 iirc. Upstream > development has been going towards stability in recent betas and I > would consider it stable at the moment: there were no real bug reports > in the bugtracker for the last few months. > > I'd like to move 2.00 to [core] via [testing] when it is released, > letting the grub-bios (atm grub2-bios) replace the old grub package. > Adding an install message and a news item is probably a good idea at > the time. > > I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give > it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days. I am slightly confused by some of the options that will become available once grub2 becomes the supported package in [core]. For someone who currently has hardware without EFI firmware (or any choice of switching in the BIOS menus), and boots via BIOS-grub- and with MBR and conventional partitions with an x86_64 arch system - then will it still be possible to boot with the only change being to move from grub to grub2 (using grub2-bios)? I am certainly confused about how UEFI fits in with that scenario. Would it be the same for someone running as above with 32 bit packages only? For a system based on hardware without EFI so that there is no option in the "BIOS" to switch from BIOS to EFI is there some magic that needs to happen for the BIOS to boot and then load UEFI code and support GPT partitions? Maybe I am the only one who is confused about these linked changes to BIOS/UEFI grub/grub2 and the system partitioning MBR/GPT? Is there a good clear link to an explanation of how this all fits together and what the options will be? I guess that in the future hardware will increasingly be purchased which has UEFI enabled by default (and at some point BIOS will presumably vanish altogether) with huge hard drive capacities, but at the moment many systems purchased in the past decade and still in use are not UEFI based, so the choices available to users need to be clear as grub2 and new options and code are developed for the boot process. Thanks in advance. -- mike c

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final
by Keshav P R 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > Am 24.06.2012 22:54, schrieb Ionut Biru: >> On 06/24/2012 11:37 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: >>> sorry I meant pkgbase >>> >>> Ronald >>> >> >> it's fine to have pkgbase=grub. > > I fear it's not as grub already has this pkgbase. They have to be > unique and also refer to their name in the svn repo. pacman itself does > not care about pkgbase though. > This can be solved by renaming grub(1) to grub-legacy and current grub2 to grub. - Keshav > -- > Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final
by Genes MailLists 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On 06/24/2012 03:51 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: .. > > I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give > it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days. > > Cheers, > Ronald > [replying in arch-general] Is there anything special that users of [testing] need to do to keep things booting ok (UEFI and/or BIOS)? Or is a simple pacman -Syu sufficient? Thanks gene

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[arch-general] Server space to host Arch TDE binaries for testing?
by David C. Rankin 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

All, (kaiting), Does anyone have server space available to host Trinity binaries for Arch for testing? Currently the size requirements for TDE binaries is ~270 Meg per architecture (~540 M for both i686 & x86_64). The package list currently building on Arch is here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Completed_Packages_-_14.0.0_de… If you have an interest in building/testing, let me know and I'll package a set of source packages (PKGBUILD's + patches) and make them available. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] icedtea-web should have provides (?)
by Marek Otahal 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hi, for bloom-facebook package I need to ensure a dependency that runs java applets and WebStart. This is provided by icedtea-web-java7 (for openjdk7), icedtea-web (openjdk6) and probably part of JRE (Oracle/Sun Java). Could there be some provides say 'java-webstart' for these packages so I needn't to force a specific java version/provider on users? Like the situation with 'java-runtime', you get the idea.. Any solutions? Thanks, Mark -- Marek Otahal :o)

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[arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
by gt 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the following in the dmesg output: NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver. But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual console seems to be working fine. Anyone else got a similar message in the log?

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[arch-general] k3b/cdrecord problem burning dual layer disc
by gt 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hey folks A few days ago i was trying to burn an iso to a dual layer dvd, but i got an i/o error. Thankfully though the burn failed, but it spared the disc :) I tried downgrading cdrtools but that didn't fix it either. I found out that the iso was about 4200 MB in size and apparently trying to burn it to a dual layer dvd gave me the error. I tried burning a larger iso, about 6500 MB to the same disc and it went fine. Also burning the smaller iso to a single layer dvd went fine too. So there was no problem with the iso. So, i think there's a bug in cdrecord or maybe k3b? Trying to burn a single layer dvd sized iso to a double layer dvd fails. Can others confirm the same?

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[arch-general] Campaign against Secure Boot
by Manolo Martínez 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Is Arch going to sign [this petition](http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/state… I, for one humble user, would like it (us, whatever) to. Manolo --

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[arch-general] soft_irq_pending
by Arno Gaboury 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Dear list, I boot in runlevel 3, *Kernel 3.4.4-2*. When I am at the login prompt, I can see this: magnolia login [ here is a number] NOHZ= *local_softirq_pending 08*. Pressing Enter give me back the login prompt, and then I can log and startx. I find this message in my *var/log/kernel.log* file too. Is there anything I can do? This is new, and think (not sure) it appeared after upgrading to 3.4.4-2. TY.

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[arch-general] What replaced tunepimp for lookup - if anything?
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Guys, tpowa used to support the tunepimp package that is/was used by amarok for music lookup, etc.. That package has been dropped. It wont even build currently (probably gcc 4.7.1 issues) I need to figure out what if anything replaced it. Was it replaced by anything or just dropped? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Booting archlinux .iso to take a look
by Chris Jones 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

I am a long-time debian user. Is there an Archlinux live environment available anywhere so I can take a look round without installing AL to my hard drive..? I created a grub menu entry for ‘archlinux-2011.08.19-core-dual.iso’ and booted successfully.. but afaict.. it only lets me run the installer. I must be missing something.. CJ -- ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

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[arch-general] merging files from pacnew
by Arno Gaboury 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Dear all, I did not take care until now of all my .pacnew files ! Hopfully, my system doesn't seems broken, and I am now merging all these files. I of course read the WIKI, and decided to use sdiff, as I do not feel comfortable with VI for now. Unfortunately, I found some very fancy results when using : *sdiff -sa -o etcfilenew etcfile etcfile.pacnew* (I use etcfilenew to check before I replace). I don't know why, but this command didn't return many times the wanted result: list all uncommon lines. I know there are some scripts around, but I am not a big fan of using scripts I do not understand. So for now I deal with the classic diif. Is there a simple command line I can use, appart sdiff and Vimdiff?? TY for your help.

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[arch-general] nfs problems
by Guillermo Leira 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hello! When I installed 3.4.2, I had boot and shutdown problems in two computers (another six went fine), so I downgraded them to back to 3.3.8. I have just upgraded to 3.4.3, and it failed again. Commenting out nfs-common and nfs-server made them work again. Now the systems work fine, but I would like to have my nfs servers back (nfs client still works). :-) I have only found this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143419 describing the exact symptoms, but no solution yet. Any ideas? Thanks, Guillermo Leira

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[arch-general] Transition from grub-legacy to grub2
by BlissSam 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

I saw a discussion in arch-dev-public mailing list (subject is grub/grub2 final). As that mailing list is read-only, I posted my comments here. >>> On 06/24/2012 11:10 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: >>>> Well sure, but grub-bios will be part of the grub group. Won't it >>>> automatically replace the grub package with the group in that case? >>>> >>>> Ronald >>>> >>> >>> I don't believe that pacman replaces a package with a group. Do we >>> really need a group called grub? What's the use case for that? I don't think a group called grub is needed. Just try: pacman -Sw java-environment and see the result (you don't really need to install it) It says `There are 2 providers available for java-environment' and want you to make a choice. I wonder if it can be implemented here. And the result will be, when a person types `pacman -S bootloader', it should say, :: There are 4 providers available for bootloader: :: 1: grub2-bios, 2: grub-legacy, 3: syslinux, 4: lilo Sam

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[arch-general] KDE Dolphin crashes on click
by Paul Gideon Dann 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hello all, I'm having some trouble with Dolphin. Clicking or right-clicking on files causes a SIGSEGV with the following backtrace: #0 0x00007ffff4e5c59c in KSycocaDict::find_string(QString const&) const () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5 #1 0x00007ffff4dc7fc8 in KMimeTypeTrader::preferredService(QString const&, QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5 #2 0x00007ffff58fc2ac in KRun::runUrl(KUrl const&, QString const&, QWidget*, bool, bool, QString const&, QByteArray const&) () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #3 0x00007ffff58fc977 in KRun::foundMimeType(QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #4 0x00007ffff58f2412 in KRun::mimeTypeDetermined(QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #5 0x00007ffff58faff8 in KRun::init() () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #6 0x00007ffff58f4290 in KRun::slotTimeout() () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5 #7 0x00007ffff4923dcf in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #8 0x00007ffff49230dc in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #9 0x00007ffff3a44f7c in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #10 0x00007ffff3a493fa in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #11 0x00007ffff5376c66 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #12 0x00007ffff490e8ee in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 The same thing occasionally happens on hover. I've tried running kbuildsycoca4 on the offchance something got corrupted, but it didn't help. This seems to be a separate issue from the herqq issue. Anyone else getting this? Paul

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[arch-general] Help with gnupg saving password for given time
by Randy 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hello all, I'm running KmyMoney and saving the file with GPG encryption. In order to open this file I need to enter my password in the pin entry window that comes up. This all works fine. The issue that I'm having is that in the past (previous installation of Arch and Aptosid) I was able to close KmyMoney and open it back up within a certain amount of time without having to re-enter the password. After this time expired, I had to re-enter the password. This no longer seems to work for me. I have to enter my password every time I open KmyMoney. According to my notes that I have on this, what I need to do is to create a file in .gnupg called gpg-agent.conf with the following entries: pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry no-grab default-cache-ttl 3600 And enter "use-agent" in the file .gnupg/gpg.conf. I'm using Openbox as my windows manager in case it matters. Could someone offer any suggestions on why this no longer works? My guess is that I'm missing something. Thanks, Randy

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[arch-general] locale variables
by Arno Gaboury 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Dear list, I am fine tuning my Arch box, trying to understand and configuring step by step. I just realised I didn't take care of all the file.pacnew in /etc, and I am now taking each one. Now dealing with *locale.gen.pacnew *I am not sure to fully understand the locale set up. My box is in English, but I am living in Switzerland, write and read english and french, and uses a QWERTZU keyborad configured via keyborad layout in XFCE settings. *[gabx@magnolia etc]$ locale -a C en_US en_US.iso88591 en_US.utf8 POSIX* It seems to me some lignes about French and euro are missing. Am I right? Looking at the list etc/locale.pacnew, I was thinking adding these locales : #fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 #fr_CH ISO-8859-1 #fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 #fr_FR ISO-8859-1 #fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 Am I right to add all these locales? I understand I must run *$logal-gen* to add these modifications. What should I do with the locale.gen.pacnew ?? How can I update my system correctly? I see that all locales are going to */usr/share/i18n/locales*, and I guess locale.gen.pacnew will modify this list, but I have no idea how to do that. TY for help.

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[arch-general] glib: #error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly." (howto report packages)
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Guys, We have run into several new build failures with trinity related to a glib header inclusion change in the last update or two. The trinity package are a relatively simple fix changing the header inclusions from '#include <glib/whatever.h>' to '#include <glib.h>'. However, some of the build failures experienced are not trinity build failures, but do to other OS packages. Example, koffice fails with: In file included from /usr/include/wv2/olestream.h:26:0, from graphicshandler.cpp:23: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/giochannel.h:28:2: error: #error "Only <glib.h> can be included directly." My question is this "When I run across these, do you want me to open a bug, just drop a note to the maintainer, or drop a note to the list?" Fixes are easy enough, but before I start rebuilding everything from ABS, I want to make sure this info gets to the right place. What say the devs? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] locale variables
by m a 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

>>> Dear list, >>> I am fine tuning my Arch box, trying to understand and configuring step >> by step. >> >>> I just realised I didn't take care of all the file.pacnew in /etc, and >>> I >> am now taking each one. >>> Now dealing with *locale.gen.pacnew >>> *I am not sure to fully understand the locale set up. My box is in >> English, but I am living in Switzerland, write and read english and >> french, >>> and uses a QWERTZU keyborad configured via keyborad layout in XFCE >> settings. >> >>> *[gabx@magnolia etc]$ locale -a >>> C >>> en_US >>> en_US.iso88591 >>> en_US.utf8 >>> POSIX* >>> It seems to me some lignes about French and euro are missing. Am I >>> right? >> Looking at the list etc/locale.pacnew, I was thinking adding >>> these locales : >>> #fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 >>> #fr_CH ISO-8859-1 >>> #fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 >>> #fr_FR ISO-8859-1 >>> #fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 >>> Am I right to add all these locales? >>> I understand I must run *$logal-gen* to add these modifications. >>> What should I do with the locale.gen.pacnew ?? How can I update my >>> system >> correctly? I see that all locales are going to */usr/share/ >>> i18n/locales*, and I guess locale.gen.pacnew will modify this list, >>> but I >> have no idea how to do that. >> >>> TY for help. >> >> >> Have you uncommented these in /etc/locale.gen, and then did the "$ >> locale-gen" thing? >> >> If you haven't, I think you should do it. And then merge the .pacnew >> file >> with the old one. > My only /etc/locale.gen is shown as a binary, with type "Genesis ROM" in > Thunar (XFCE). Seems strange, as I can see it as a text file when using > a text editor (maybe the .gen extension is mistaking Thunar). > > So I shall edit it and uncomment the following lines : > > #fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 > #fr_CH ISO-8859-1 > #fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 > #fr_FR ISO-8859-1 > #fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 > > Then merge with locale.gen.pacnew? > > That's fine, but doesn't tell me IF I really need these locales on my > system. Maybe it does, I don't know. Haven't ever used xfce to be able to say anything about something like that. As for the locales, I think you should only add the first two.

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[arch-general] Chromium's Langauge settings dialog not opening
by Mateusz Loskot 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

Hi, I'm having weird issue wiht Chromium on the current Arch. Regardless of WM used, Openbox or i3, I can observe it. 0. Fresh Chromium configuration (~/.config/chromium wiped out) 1. Load page with textarea, e.g. gist.github.com, pastebin.com 2. Right-click on textarea -> select Spell-checker Options -> Language Settings 3. No dialog opens Now, tick off "Check the spelling of this field" in right-click context menu -> Spell-checker Options Then: 1. Load page with textarea, e.g. gist.github.com, pastebin.com 2. Right-click on textarea -> select Spell-checker Options -> Language Settings 3. Now Language Settings tab opens Has anyone noticed that? Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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Re: [arch-general] locale variables
by m a 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

> Dear list, > I am fine tuning my Arch box, trying to understand and configuring step by step. > I just realised I didn't take care of all the file.pacnew in /etc, and I am now taking each one. > Now dealing with *locale.gen.pacnew > *I am not sure to fully understand the locale set up. My box is in English, but I am living in Switzerland, write and read english and french, > and uses a QWERTZU keyborad configured via keyborad layout in XFCE settings. > *[gabx@magnolia etc]$ locale -a > C > en_US > en_US.iso88591 > en_US.utf8 > POSIX* > It seems to me some lignes about French and euro are missing. Am I right? Looking at the list etc/locale.pacnew, I was thinking adding > these locales : > #fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 > #fr_CH ISO-8859-1 > #fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 > #fr_FR ISO-8859-1 > #fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 > Am I right to add all these locales? > I understand I must run *$logal-gen* to add these modifications. > What should I do with the locale.gen.pacnew ?? How can I update my system correctly? I see that all locales are going to */usr/share/ > i18n/locales*, and I guess locale.gen.pacnew will modify this list, but I have no idea how to do that. > TY for help. Have you uncommented these in /etc/locale.gen, and then did the "$ locale-gen" thing? If you haven't, I think you should do it. And then merge the .pacnew file with the old one.

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[arch-general] xdg-open fails to open a url in a "generic" environment
by Mateusz Loskot 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

Hi, There has been a bug reported to freedesktop.org about problems in xdg-open: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45859 I can reproduce this bug on my Arch installation (updated daily). I think this bug report is related to that problem too: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28011 I wonder if, is there any fix for that problem baked by Arch itself? BTW, perhaps Arch users could vote for the bug report in freedesktop.org so its priority is bumped up. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

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[arch-general] Chromium browser does not follow the proxy settings
by Jayesh Badwaik 23 Jun '12

23 Jun '12

Hi, I am using chromium with KDE, and whenever I open Chromium proxy settings, I get KDE proxy settings. I have already enabled my KDE proxy settings, so the proxy should work right? But it doesn't. I can browse using the proxy through rekonq browser. So, the settings are apparently working fine. It is the chromium browser that is causing the problem. Any solutions? -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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Re: [arch-general] Alsa doesn't detect Xonar DS sound card on a fresh install
by m a 23 Jun '12

23 Jun '12

> Make sure you have snd-virtuoso module loaded up. Thank you for you reply. It is loaded.

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[arch-general] Alsa doesn't detect Xonar DS sound card on a fresh install
by m a 23 Jun '12

23 Jun '12

Alsamixer only shows my onboard one, and so does aplay -l. How can I add the new one? I looked it up on alsa wiki but didn't find much..

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[arch-general] Complete mess after having attempted to install Nvidia drivers
by m a 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Hello, I was trying to remove the proprietary drivers for my nvidia, to install the open source ones. I read in the wiki that I also had to remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but only found an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, so I removed that one. I don't know if this is the reason why I can no longer use either the keyboard or the mouse when reaching the login screen. Let me add that I forgot to also remove the intel video drivers that I used before, don't know if this could have anything to do with what I'm facing now though. The question is, what did I do wrong and how can I fix this? I tried adding either 3 or 1 to the grub kernel line, but I still can't reach the command line.

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Re: [arch-general] Complete mess after having attempted to install Nvidia drivers‏‏
by m a 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Ok, I got my keyboard and mouse back! I suppose it wasn't really wise of me to follow the instructions given on the Archbang wiki, everything worked perfectly with the Arch wiki on chroot. I wrote down the alternative method suggested here though, I'm sure I'll find it useful some time soon. Anyway, thank you all very much. Now, I was getting an insanely flickering screen with the nouveau drivers, so decided to switch back to the proprietary ones. The problem that I'm facing now is that I get an error message saying "No screens found". Is there anything I can about this? I looked around but didn't find a solution.

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Re: [arch-general] Complete mess after having attempted to install Nvidia drivers‏
by m a 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

> You could try to reinstall xorg-server: > # pacman -S xorg-server How am I going to do this? In normal boot, I can't use my keyboard and, when booting from a LiveCD, I can't install anything on the system. > You mentioned intel graphics driver, is there any possibilty that you > have Intel + Nvidia Optimus? No, I just recently bought the graphic card. I used the onboard one up to that point.

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Re: [arch-general] Complete mess after having attempted to install Nvidia drivers‏‏
by m a 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

> Boot from the LiveCD and chroot to your system I have already done that (having followed the relevant Archbang wiki) but, once I attempt to install anything, I get this: error: GPGME error: Bad file descriptor error: xorg-server: missing required signature error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

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Re: [arch-general] Complete mess after having attempted to install Nvidia drivers‏
by m a 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

> Do not know of a quick fix off the top of my head but yes deleting the > entire folder xorg.conf.d deletes other needed files. I would maybe try > booting a LiveCD chroot in and copy the files over you deleted then reboot. > Why would you blindly delete an entire folder? > HTH Cause I'm an idiot, obviously. I have booted from a LiveCD and mounted the root directory. I don't know where these files are to copy them from, though. Can you please tell me?

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[arch-general] tmp files no longer removed
by Lukáš Jirkovský 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Hello, before submitting bug report I want to make sure this isn't feature. My problem is that my /tmp folder is no longer cleaned up during boot. Now I have to do that manually which is really annoying. I dug through the git of initscripts and it seems to be caused by the replacement of the original code by the systemd-tmpfiles tool. I've just tried to run systemd-tmpfiles manually and it seems that it is not able to do even a simple task such as rm -rf /tmp/*. Lukas

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[arch-general] [aur-general]pipe log msg on conky window
by Arno Gaboury 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Dear all, as I was configuring a conky window on my desktop, I decided to add some precisions and tips for configuring the *.conkyrc* file in the Arch WIKI. Reading any /var/log file needs to be root, thus making difficult to run any home config file with read access to log files. My turnaround is to *$chown root:log /var/log* then *$usermod -aG log username*. Security wise, I do not know if this can bring serious potential breach in the system. If yes, please tell me as I will NOT let this turnaround in the WIKI. What would be a safer solution to read the log files in my conky window? Regards. **

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[arch-general] x86_64 kernel 3.4.3-1 fail to boot - initramfs unpacking failed: uncompression error
by David C. Rankin 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

Guys, Updating an x86_64 box, I ran into an error I've never seen before with the 3.4.3-1 kernel. It hard-locks at the very start of boot with the keyboard lights flashing. Basically the first line of the boot says: Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. Booting the kernel. [ 0.480811] Initramfs unpacking failed: uncompression error [ -.547776] Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance. I literally took a picture of the screen just in case it is of any help: [155k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/ss/arch/kernel343-fail2boot.jpg Where to start? Boot from an install disk, chroot, and try kernel reinstall? What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] FCoE support in archlinux
by Nicolas Sebrecht 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

Hi, I plan to use FCoE on archlinux servers but I couldn't find any package of the utils to get it working. The modules looks compiled in the kernel. Does Arch support FCoE? If so, which utils do you use (I'm aware of the http://www.open-fcoe.org/ utils only)? Thanks, -- Nicolas Sebrecht

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[arch-general] Advice on opening the ".rm" files in ArchLinux
by Jayesh Badwaik 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

Hi, I have just downloaded the following file [0]. It is an .rm file but I am not able to open it in either VLC or Mplayer. I have posted -the error messages below. Thanks in advance. -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html [0] ftp://ftp.aduni.org/videos/08_lect_01.rm P.S. As a background, the file is the first of the lecture of Theory of Computation. http://aduni.org/courses/theory/index.php?view=cw P.P.S. ERROR MESSAGES ERROR MESSAGE IN VLC: $ vlc 08_lect_01.rm VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547) [0x1b06138] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. [rm @ 0x7efff8c1fe00] Unsupported stream type 4d4c5449 [rm @ 0x7efff8c1fe00] Unsupported stream type 4d4c5449 [rm @ 0x7efff8c1fe00] Unsupported stream type 000001f5 [rm @ 0x7efff8c1fe00] Unsupported stream type 00000424 [rm @ 0x7efff8c1fe00] Unsupported stream type 00000644 [rm @ 0x7efff80035e0] Unsupported stream type 4d4c5449 [rm @ 0x7efff80035e0] Unsupported stream type 4d4c5449 [rm @ 0x7efff80035e0] Unsupported stream type 000001f5 [rm @ 0x7efff80035e0] Unsupported stream type 00000424 [rm @ 0x7efff80035e0] Unsupported stream type 00000644 ERROR MESSAGE IN MPLAYER: $ mplayer 08_lect_01.rm MPlayer SVN-r34799-4.6.3 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team 183 audio & 398 video codecs mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing 08_lect_01.rm. libavformat version 54.2.100 (internal) REAL file format detected. Stream description: audio/x-pn-multirate-realaudio logical stream Stream mimetype: audio/x-pn-realaudio-recording Stream description: video/x-pn-multirate-realvideo logical stream Stream mimetype: video/x-pn-realvideo-recording Stream mimetype: logical-fileinfo Stream mimetype: logical-fileinfo Stream mimetype: logical-fileinfo No stream found. Exiting... (End of file)

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[arch-general] iPod HOWTO?
by David Benfell 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is a facepalm moment. I'm utterly failing to find the correct way to do this. The Arch wiki entry is https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPod It's out of date because "HAL has been deprecated for a while now." Like an idiot, I managed to overlook that. And I think I got HAL sort of working. But Banshee gets "permission denied" when I try to copy music onto by iPod. I don't even have a clue which way to go with this. As near as I can tell, only root can write to the iPod, but I had the notion that I should run Banshee as my regular user. I can't even change the ownership of the mount point: graton# chown benfell:users /media/iPod chown: changing ownership of '/media/iPod': Operation not permitted What now? Thanks! - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP4s2HAAoJELT202JKF+xp/tUP/R9A8/LZlhFCKpaR2YCAjWxG 3KCMWRKhhR0Onjw16WlKvS57cDg0DOyf75mY4YfDNk40vsyB6BWhdUDe90oXPr4W Fzvy7ce6wmhbc/AHBpQcJtiZo6c167PPr0ruNGJe3DjFsXFg+V5KDuL5O+si1QJa QjSj0ApPPsUV7C7rnPVAKRVg0usuzUZls85EmkEYezYkGH5SO1XSUATeco3yud2y xIdVst2ZCzzCNX/ypC8e/MWEXn3lc5XGokwHmfuXCkr6anv5L+9WzSp/gbarMlSg qDaEhGjjh4SfzUBWBvRhV7GZPd4OV/IJy7vuesaNOeMEWOpnut6xYaEHcN8o3/Up mNMzkuuTj2Rc6P7IUuCV7T0Wsa4YvCFyrok9+PsJ9U2IJRoVYBG6bRDcgLNjcofG ugNFZP9SZHZbMJcg7KAI+2/jHvvP0yvPLwvd8qp999qWvCuCv67apiHosPzl75Am i0FVV5wNtg1I18rWtrWTo+AWLqGqK58MIlS1yDyYXtNT4m6f6EBMId2H7ZTULOzS nAKGw2u6m+iLmrWtgN9MbCcndRW9BFyUmEUOX0JYSd7lOAE9IHyJ5B//NxTyDvRz Ku5maC2IMKitazLACWryjtAFgxEsxTtkCZW7bQEPhNS3X7/cbzJa3xhpkugE1QSa e56ITTf2PNSVgzBBPE2Z =4zVa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] x264 and ffmpeg rebuild
by Sergej Pupykin 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

What do you think about ffmpeg-compat package ? ******************** # $Id$ pkgname=ffmpeg-compat pkgver=20120509 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Complete and free Internet live audio and video broadcasting solution for Linux/Unix" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="http://ffmpeg.org/" license=('GPL') depends=(alsa-lib bzip2 gsm lame libpulse libtheora libva libvorbis libvpx opencore-amr openjpeg rtmpdump schroedinger sdl speex x264 xvidcore zlib) makedepends=('yasm' 'git' 'libvdpau') source=(ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/ffmpeg/ffmpeg-$pkgver.tar.xz) md5sums=('a35359e424608f369d380f03e4dc9966') build() { cd "ffmpeg" ./configure \ --prefix=/usr \ --incdir=/usr/include/ffmpeg-compat \ --libdir=/usr/lib/ffmpeg-compat \ --shlibdir=/usr/lib/ffmpeg-compat \ --enable-libmp3lame \ --enable-libvorbis \ --enable-libxvid \ --enable-libx264 \ --enable-libvpx \ --enable-libtheora \ --enable-libgsm \ --enable-libspeex \ --enable-postproc \ --enable-shared \ --enable-x11grab \ --enable-libopencore_amrnb \ --enable-libopencore_amrwb \ --enable-libschroedinger \ --enable-libopenjpeg \ --enable-librtmp \ --enable-libpulse \ --enable-gpl \ --enable-version3 \ --enable-runtime-cpudetect \ --disable-debug \ --disable-static make } package() { cd "ffmpeg" make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install rm -rf $pkgdir/usr/{bin,share} } ******************** At Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:36:33 -0400, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You might not have noticed but in ffmpeg 0.11, they removed a lot of > functions and structs that were marked as deprecated in the ffmpeg in > [extra] so any packages that still use that deprecated stuff won't > build anymore unless they're patched. As expected, this will take more > time than a simple rebuild. My remaining package (sox, electricsheep) > don't build and I haven't found any patches online. Is there > documentation on how to port to the newer API? There are hints in the > header files but I got stuck. Electricsheep build but doesn't work, > probably because of the line I removed without replacing it (I don't > know how to replace it), so I'll need to do more work on the patch. If > someone knows about this stuff, I could post my current patches.

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[arch-general] Source control on /etc
by Don deJuan 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

What is considered the Arch way to have version control over the configs in /etc? I would like to be able to see at least a few changes back in my config history at the minimum. I have seen the package etckeeper and it does not seem to really fully be setup to work with pacman. Both AUR packages are very outdated. Would I just be best off just copying the ones I change and then push the changes to a separate dir that is under control of say git? What methods do you employ? Thanks for any info or tips on this. :)

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[arch-general] What causes the 3-5 sec delay before :: running early hooks (udev)?
by David C. Rankin 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Guys, After recent updates to 3.4.3 and systemd-tools, etc., I have a new delay on boot. The system just seems to sit for any extra 5 secs or so with a blank screen after switching from grub to start booting. The delay happens before the first line: :: running early hooks (udev) is written to the screen. Does anybody know what is causing this? initramfs decompression? New systemd-tools udev stuff? After updating 3-4 boxes, this delay period is notable. Just curious whether this can be tweaked or eliminated. Thanks for any info. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Note on TDE - gcc 4.7.1 resolves kwrite crash
by David C. Rankin 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

All, Just a quick note that update to gcc 4.7.1 resolved an infinite loop introduced when TDE was built on gcc 4.7.0-x resulting in a kwrite/kate crash on line-wrap. Confirmed with fresh TDE archroot build on 6/19. TDE 14.0.0 release upcoming. Date not set, but expected in next couple of months. (number versioning change from 3.5.14 to 14.0.0 due to backwards compatibility with 3.5.X being dropped as TQt3 executables underwent name changes to prevent conflict with Qt4 when both installed in /usr) Will update the wiki shortly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] syslinux and grub
by D. R. Evans 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Following the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_RAID_and_LVM#RAID_installation it says "This tutorial will use SYSLINUX". However, towards the bottom of the page it says: "Once you have successfully booted your new system for the first time, you will want to install Grub onto the other two disks (or on the other disk if you have only 2 HDDs)" and proceeds to show how to do this. This is very confusing (to me, anyway). Is this really what one is supposed to do, even though it says that SYSLINUX will be used in the tutorial? Perhaps it's something to do with the difference between grub and grub2, but in any case to someone just following the instructions it isn't at all clear why this section talks about grub instead of syslinux. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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[arch-general] create Arch based distro
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

hello, how can I create an Arch based distro, ex. with KDE pre-installed?

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg - howto run 'pacman-key --init'?
by David C. Rankin 19 Jun '12

19 Jun '12

Guys, Doing a major rebuild with new archroot and I've run into an error either due to needing to run 'pacman-key --init' or due to GPGME -- or both. Do I need to manually chroot the archroot and run pacman-key --init, or can I pass it to the chroot with makechrootpkg -- (some option). What's the best way to handle this? After running 'sudo mkarchroot -u $CHROOT/root', when I go to build a package requiring dependencies with 'sudo makechrootpkg -r $CHROOT -u', I get the following: ==> Checking runtime dependencies... ==> Installing missing dependencies... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (17): kbproto-1.0.6-1 libjpeg-turbo-1.2.0-2 libx11-1.5.0-1 libxau-1.0.7-1 libxcb-1.8.1-1 libxdmcp-1.1.1-1 pm-quirks-0.20100619-2 polkit-0.105-1 xcb-proto-1.7.1-1 xproto-7.0.23-1 consolekit-0.4.6-4 dbus-glib-0.98-1 dmidecode-2.11-2 eject-2.1.5-7 libusb-compat-0.1.4-1 pm-utils-1.4.1-5 v4l-utils-0.8.8-1 Total Installed Size: 29.00 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] (17/17) checking package integrity [#######################################] 100% warning: Public keyring not found; have you run 'pacman-key --init'? error: GPGME error: Inappropriate ioctl for device <snip same error> error: GPGME error: Inappropriate ioctl for device error: dbus-glib: missing required signature error: libusb-compat: missing required signature error: eject: missing required signature error: dmidecode: missing required signature error: pm-quirks: missing required signature error: pm-utils: missing required signature error: polkit: missing required signature error: xcb-proto: missing required signature error: xproto: missing required signature error: libxdmcp: missing required signature error: libxau: missing required signature error: libxcb: missing required signature error: kbproto: missing required signature error: libx11: missing required signature error: consolekit: missing required signature error: libjpeg-turbo: missing required signature error: v4l-utils: missing required signature error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies. ==> ERROR: Build failed, check /dat_e/ch47/david/build The GPGME error is one I haven't encountered before, I'm not sure what to do with that one. For the missing required signature errors, I have tried setting SigLevel = Never, but same result. What say the experts? Let me know what you think and I'll update the DeveloperWiki:Building in a Clean Chroot page. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] installation failure
by D. R. Evans 19 Jun '12

19 Jun '12

I am getting a failure when attempting to install 64-bit arch as the main OS on my principal desktop system. I am following the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_RAID_and_LVM, since I have two brand-new 2TB drives that I want to use in RAID1. 1. I have downloaded and burned the current NetInstall image on a CD. 2. Booting from the CD, I execute: /arch/setup 3. I execute: modprobe raid1 4. I execute: modprobe dm-mod 5. I execute: pacman-db-upgrade 6. I execute: pacman -Syy All the above works fine. 7. I execute: pacman -S gdisk At this point I am told that I should upgrade pacman, and am asked if I want to do this. I answer "Y". A bunch of stuff gets download, but eventually I am told that the upgrade cannot be performed. Possibly this is because it's attempting to write to a read-only filesystem -- i.e., the CD drive (I'm guessing wildly that that is the cause). But in any case, I can't get past this point. How do I proceed? Doc Evans -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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[arch-general] Black screen with linux-3.4.2
by Karol Babioch 19 Jun '12

19 Jun '12

Hi, I've recently upgraded to linux-3.4.2 only to endeavor that it isn't bootable with my hardware. Basically my screen gets black during boot-up and remains so without anything I can do about it. I've got a Nvidia GPU (310M) driven by nouveau, which worked reasonably fine for the last couple of months. I can remember that there was exactly the same issue with kernels prior to 2.6.38 (or 2.6.39?), so I'm quite unhappy about the regression. I haven't looked much into it yet, just wanted to know whether anyone is also affected by this and/or whether or not this is already known (to the kernel developers)? Otherwise I would probably have to mail to some kernel developing list, wouldn't I? Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] time to drop openjdk6 ?
by Andreas Radke 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it should be now stable enough to replace Java6 for everyone also in the OpenJDK community releases. I'm asking if there's somebody still in the need to use openjdk6 for certain apps that fail to run with openjdk7? If so please report it upstream. I know there's are still some commercial java apps that will only run on the Oracle JRE6 or JRE7 but I ask only if somebody prefers openjdk6 in our repos over java7-openjdk. I'd like to drop openjdk6 when the next security update will be released if possible. -Andy

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[arch-general] Time for new release?
by Geoffroy PLANQUART 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi everybody, I'm currently on a school project and I run a dozen of virtual machines, all running Arch. I noticed that every time I set up a new VM, I have to manually run the `pacman-key --init' and `pacman-key --populate archlinux'. Wouldn't it be time to set up a new installation release? Thus new users wouldn't have to bother about pacman recent changes, and moreover the basic install would be kept simple, ready to use. Geoffroy

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